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The constraint of lacking IBIS inspired people to greater creative heights! ;-) I like a lot how they included the light meter reading at the start! Every video should have this at the start :-D

Yeah you know something is a little weird if people are obsessed with details that top flight pros never never mention (who have it as their job to be obsessed over such tiny details!) I'd love to try out the Titan, but my budget doesn't allow that! Maybe I'll come across the Titan magic arm on set randomly one day. Wait............ what??

Nah! Not for the frugal wonderboy that is the Sony PMW-F3 :-D F3 = sub $1K Samurai = $350 SSD = less than a hundred bucks (spend the spare bucks on NP-F batteries for the recorder! Or run it on D-tap from a BP-U60) SxS SD adapter plus SD card = fifty bucks perhaps Couple of knock off BP-U60 batteries (if you're F3 doesn't already come with it!) = another hundred bucks If you go the 4K raw path instead, your starting figures are: Sony FS700 = sub $2K Atomos = sub $1K (plus various accessories... but I'm going to bed now! Cya)

I switched to arri rosettes and rails to mount my Atomos Samurai as I was sick of dealing with a magic arm!

Better auto focus too: "After spending lots of time comparing all the videos from both camera, I feel very comfortable to say the GH5S has noticeably better video tracking performance when compared to the GH5. (GH5S running pre-production firmware 0.2 GH5 running firmware 2.2) GH5S’s focus tracking just seems to be more responsive, it pick up changes a lot quicker. And the most important thing is the consistency seems to be much better than the GH5. With the GH5, when it detects and tracks the subject, frankly I think it works not too bad. The problem is that every now and then, the camera would just take a nap and stop or take a long time to follow the subject. Now with the GH5S, while it is still not perfect, but the consistency is just so much better. The GH5S almost always can detect any changes in focus and adjust reasonably quickly and correctly afterwards. I also notice a lot less overshoot when it’s adjusting focus as well when compare to the GH5." If the GH5S is already that good with pre-production firmware, how much better is it going to be once polished up and shipped? :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNQmaEdBUQ http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-gh5s-review/ @Neumann Films did you see better autofocus with your anomorphic lens than you'd experienced before?

Better auto focus too: "After spending lots of time comparing all the videos from both camera, I feel very comfortable to say the GH5S has noticeably better video tracking performance when compared to the GH5. (GH5S running pre-production firmware 0.2 GH5 running firmware 2.2) GH5S’s focus tracking just seems to be more responsive, it pick up changes a lot quicker. And the most important thing is the consistency seems to be much better than the GH5. With the GH5, when it detects and tracks the subject, frankly I think it works not too bad. The problem is that every now and then, the camera would just take a nap and stop or take a long time to follow the subject. Now with the GH5S, while it is still not perfect, but the consistency is just so much better. The GH5S almost always can detect any changes in focus and adjust reasonably quickly and correctly afterwards. I also notice a lot less overshoot when it’s adjusting focus as well when compare to the GH5." If the GH5S is already that good with pre-production firmware, how much better is it going to be once polished up and shipped? :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNQmaEdBUQ http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-gh5s-review/

For those complaining about a lack of IBIS, a point to remember that the sensor moves around *in* the image circle Possibly (I don't know, just a theory) the multi aspect ratio nature of the sensor is already pushing it to the limits of some Panasonic MFT lenses, limiting the spare space for the IBIS to work in?!?! Personally I somewhat doubt it, but it is a possible other explanation.

You won't find anything "official" saying that. But on their official YouTube channel they have a certain someone saying it is a two stop increase in DR: How true is this? Dunno. (he has replied himself on this point in the forums, worth looking up) But if the shadows are so much cleaner, then I am not at all surprised if it does indeed have greater usable DR!

"A Casey Special Edition"

GH5s photo ISO test: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA7.HTM GH5s video tests and comparisons: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA.HTM#shooting1

That is an easyrig, they're very *very* very common on budgeted shoots (had a producer friend say lately that *ALL* of his recent shoots his cameramen have used an easyrig). Am super tempted to get one myself this year to use with my Sony PMW-F3. But no, would be complete and utter madness to use it with a glidecam!

It gets to be so close, you're not quite splitting hairs, but you're certainly splitting twigs! ha

I think their G9 is meant to be targeted as photographers, while GH series is for filmmakers. Thus I doubt G9 will have a 10 megapixel sensor.

Ah yes sure, I won't disagree there, the world is not B&W. And there are many shades of grey in between. But I was just giving it as an explanation of the two sides there are here which can show why people can view this GH5S release so very differently. It should be!! :-D Anyone seen anything better at CES this year??

No. External recording is not a solution for all problems. You are not going to magically get ten bit recordings out of the Sony a7 series.

Not true, as you will need to shoot at two stops higher ISO with the FF camera over the MFT camera. So the FF camera will only be ok if it is two stops cleaner to start off with, which as we know is not always the case. Which never ever happens in real life. Exactly! So if I can shoot at IS0 6400 with the GH5S but the a7Smk2 is forced two stops higher to get the DoF needed for the scene then the Sony is going to be worse for the lowlight scene. It is as simple as that. Exactly, another area where the a7Smk2 is being let down. (for instance the great raw from the BMPCC means with noise reduction in post it can actually be pretty ok in lowlight! And in the GH5S vs a7Smk2 situation the Panasonic undoubtedly has a better codec than the Sony) Kai is an entertainer first and foremost. Is not a technical camera nerd geek at all Additionally he comes from the stills world, not the film world. Thus naturally you need to take everything Kai says with a BIG GRAIN OF SALT! Still love watching his videos though as he is after all a great entertainer :-) OH BOY! Please link and quote it when this happens :-D

Axiom is betaware at best, more like alpha even. If you go with that you need to be a keen hacker indeed. I've been following Kinefinity for years now. They kinda make you leap frog back and forth between being excited for them or Blackmagic Design. As in a way, they are kinda like a chinese cross between RED and Blackmagic Design. As BMD releases a camera which is amazing that gets you excited, then some many months later Kinefinity comes along and releases one which is even better and gets you excited for them instead! Then next year's NAB eventually rolls around and BMD brings out a new top dog product! Then some months passes... and you see Kinefinity has a new camera. And so the back and forth cycle continues. Or at least that is how it feels for me! :-P Nah, they have never had money issues we know about. No reason at all to make up the statement they might go bankrupt. Plus Kinefinity has a much bigger parent company, which I'm sure adds to their financial stability. Kinefinity has been much more focused on their local domestic market (and the nearby other asian countries), as china is a BILLION PEOPLE after all. But that is changing, and they're starting to do a bit more of a push into the western world. (such as Philip Bloom is doing a review of the Terra now, and they're getting more distributors) Don't forget however that "Tangerine" was shot also with tens and tens of thousands of dollars of sound equipment and a professional experienced soundie.

Yeah if a person is shooting with a DSLR/mirrorless then they should just get Rokinon Cine DS lenses for identical image quality instead. Is what I did: http://ironfilm.co.nz/rokinon-cine-lenses/

What about once the camera ships, you could release it then? (as I guess they're trying to avoid raw clips being leaked before the shipping date) Or get a GH5S + gimbal for even less! If the shadows are simply cleaner than in the GH5 (which it appears yes they are indeed) then that should automatically mean greater dynamic range which is usable?

Generally lowlight outdoors is more the trouble... indoors we have access to electricity and lights!

You're missing my point completely I fear. For the a7S to match DoF with the GH5S then the a7S much have a much higher F-stop, which thus puts it at an immediate lowlight disadvantage which it has to first overcome. Thus it is not just a case of the GH5S being great at a given ISO, but practically speaking you'll find it works even better than the ISO suggests in a lowlight scene as you won't need to close the f-stop as far. I doubt Panasonic is doing that. Quite likely there are serious overheating issues they need to avoid with the GH5S. Unless... they made the GH5S without IBIS purely to pander to the car rig shooters?? I doubt it that they'd kill IBIS just for them!!

If you think MFT is expensive don't go and check out prices of Sony FE mount cameras.......

I think we have to very different kinds of shooters here (very very rough stereotyping here, don't shoot me!): Ultra low budget shooters / event shooters / stealth docos / etc vs filmmakers. The first type are often shooting with nothing but the camera and a lens, so IBIS is a pure godsend for them! For the second type, to use a gimbal (or slider, or dolly, or tripod, or monopod, or whatever!) is completely normal everyday business for them, and they don't see what is the big fuss about losing IBIS when Panasonic is giving us all these wonderful goodies!

It has x1.8-ish