Emanuel

That Osmo Pocket 3 is one of the most interesting devices I've ever owned, practically with me for everywhere and always ready for a ride like a crazy bitch! : ) Don't quote me, just a bot! ;- )

DJI do make cameras, they don't just try.  The Osmo Pocket 3 is, from what I've heard, one of the most popular cameras on the planet these days.  The Ronin 4D is also pretty excellent and the "chicken head" camera is becoming a staple on productions, both from low budget scrubs like me to Hollywood films that will play in theaters nationwide.

Even a Viltrox lens looks good thanks to her!

I’m in the middle of overreacting to Nikon implementing something on my camera that I was using on a competitors 8 years ago and they have stuffed it.  I know this shouldn’t be bothering me as much as it is. I really need to get out more.  Nikon: the Microsoft of cameras 🤦
The fact you can only use shutter angle in manual mode. Why?  Or at least let us set the minimum shutter angle in those modes ffs. Because otherwise the camera will happily shoot unusable 360degree shutter angle video in those modes.
(Please don’t post any variety of “real men only shoot manual”.  For what I do shooting in aperture priority is essential. It lets me get shots that would be impossible unless I’d have another operator ramping exposure.  I’m not shooting drama. It’s not controlled. I could do this on the gh5 ffs).  
 
 

I'd take 4k120 over 60p for slow-mo any day

Though not as popular as Space Karen thought they were.

My Nikon 28mm F1.4 AF-D will like that.
AFD still very popular in Germany.

I’d rather have a phone inside the Sigma BF.
But I bought a RED Hydrogen so what do I know… 

ProRes Raw/BRAW is what probably bypasses most of the rubbish processing, artifacts etc as with S5ii

Just seems like a massive chance to make money to me.
The smartphone market has peaked, and the high-end phones succeeded in selling at $1000+ by differentiating themselves mainly on the camera specs.
Now all the flagship phones are pretty much similar, not much innovation and Apple especially under Tim Trump have not come up with a new idea for ages.
It strikes me that if the camera is the most important thing about a phone, it should be a sign that maybe Canon, Nikon, Fuji are missing out on some hefty demand.
Canon should have a Powershot branded phone running latest CPU and Android, 1" sensor and a ton of features from their serious cameras on it, plus Canon's colour science and picture styles, which leave the Chinese phone manufacturers for dead.
Fuji should also do a similar thing, one with more style and imagination than whatever iterative shit Tim Woke But Trump is flogging year in year out. (Japan used to the lead the high-end phone market before Apple came along).
Sigma as well, aiming for a more Apple-like high-end product with amazing build quality.
So far camera companies in the smartphone market has been a branding exercise.
Leica with Huawei and more recently Xiaomi, but the actual hardware is all China.
Sony are the only camera company to have their Alpha features and software on a mainstream Android phone... Xperia 1 & 5 series.
But in typical Sony fashion these are general purpose daily driver phones that try to do a Samsung, rather than really pushing the camera forward into a new realm or the smartphone onwards into a new concept. In fact they have on recent flagships given up trying to be different at all and just gone full on samey.
Panasonic you may remember gave us the CM1. This had the right idea as far as software features and sensor size goes... Terrible implementation in terms of naff build quality, a screen that would scratch if you so much as sneezed at it, and a slow lens with even slower autofocus.
Nowadays the thin optics on a phone like the Xiaomi 14 series are capable of amazing things, like the really close-focus telephoto lens they offer on the higher-end models, and the very fast wide angle lenses that are super thin but cover a 1" sensor.
But if they really wanted to be brave they would come up with a camera-first, phone second product.
And that's where Fuji, Canon and the rest could really make something special.

Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant. ~ Robert Louis Stevenson

It's the only way to stand up against a fascist dictatorship, you can't do it like the democrats with their little slogans and signs, and Micro Four Thirds cameras... You have to have a warship, and a big bazooka on the front.

Another vote for the S5. I got mine used from Japan for $535 and it looks like new. They gave that camera a new life with the later updates too… I have mine as a B camera with a Ninja V+ on it because that last big update gave it raw 6k, 4k s35 and 3.5k anamorphic raw. So with the S9 you get all the latest lumix has to offer but the S5 makes a really sweet B and C cam now. And that sensor has such a nice look to it compared to the over sharpened S5ii. It’s not a big deal but I feel like it looks a little closer to the S1H. My only gripe is that they never really figured out how to do L-Mount speed boosters for Panasonic cameras. I emailed metabones 3 or 4 times and they never gave me a reason. I have been told there isn’t enough room but some of the other shorter flange distances work so who knows… luckily at this point we’re finally at FF 60p with no crop moving forward. I do however have the Kipon Focal reducer to adapt the Mamiya 645 lenses to the S5 so that’s been fun. Since AF isn’t the best I doubled down on vintage, manual glass. 
 
Second I would say the small bit mighty Fujifilm X-M5 at $800. 
 Like a baby X-H2s with quite the list of video record options. Ranked 8th best in DR tests by Cine D. And quite the image with 6.2k open gate and 60p/120p 4k. Rolling shutter can be a little bad in the open gate modes but there are some other faster options to choose from if that’s your priority. Also, the Raw output (6.2k 3:2 and 5.2k 60p) is unexpected in such a tiny and cheap camera. Just have to get a locking cable bracket because it’s micro HDMI. No IBIS so makes for a good drone cam or car mount/action cam and matches perfectly with the X-H2s. Fast data rate speeds and 4.2.2 color with F-Log options.
 
lens tangent: I have been using it with the little Blazar Nero 1.5x adapter for Anamorphic 6k and love the results. The Blazar is a little wild at full frame but for APS-C it looses the funky edges and looks a lot cleaner. Plus you can add it to your lens of choice and have fun with it. I’m adapting some 60’s Japanese rangefinder lenses to M mount and they pair really well with the Blazar. 
 

I can make a case for both such as say; single body with 24-70 vs two bodies, one on each hip, with say a 28 and an 85.
It's certainly more convenient to zoom, but it does mean a larger and heavier unit in your hands which over a typical 12-15 hour day, adds up and just isn't as enjoyable at any point throughout the day.
It's really when we get about 100mm that zooms tend to make more sense to me because we tend to have 85/90/105 and OK 135, but there isn't really much in prime land above 100'ish' compared with below.
At this point in time, I am in the 'one & done' camp, but that does require 3 lens changes albeit, not regularly.
Possibly, but right now I'd pick the S9 for video based on current spec and let's not forget the twist & tilt rear LCD.
I doubt even that would work my friend 😘

Understand the genre you are making, what works in the edit and what doesn't.
Most discussion of camera features is just noise coming from people that don't know what matters to them and what doesn't.  

I think certainly for stills, at least at ‘ordinary’ viewing levels which for 99.9999999999999% of all viewing these days is on a device and mainly a phone…and with compressed images at that!
The artist/craftsman in me still and always will fight back against that even if I am the only one that sees or even knows about it.
It’s one of the reasons I am chasing more megapixels. It’s not because I think it improves the image in any way as such, but because I can crop ever harder with a lower loss of quality which means I can use smaller and lighter kit which has so many benefits including enjoyment.
Tech for tech sake no. If it’s just data on a spreadsheet, who gives a shit, but when that tech relates to real world quality of life…

Eu entendo você em qualquer um dos idiomas, @Emanuel 😁

(just a joke to my fellow "languager" here) 😉

Well I have been around, but this website is a bit dead, @Andrew Reid isn’t posting anymore. I agree with his panasonic post. The era of 5DII and Magic lantern and GH4s etc used to be fun. Now not so much. 
Also, as everybody here knows, I spent most of my time out here on this forum complaining for years that it was unbelievable we had good phase detect AF in one body, good IBIS in another, good 4K in another, 4K120P in another, great full frame stills in another, but nobody would release a camera with all that. Well Canon did it with the R5 5 years ago. I bought it, and stopped complaining lol. So I haven’t much to say. 

Oh actually I do have something to complain about. I am a lot into landscape drone photography/video now. For years, I have been waiting for the combination of vertical shooting (DJI Mini) with high quality (DJI Mavic PRO). Can’t believe I have to carry multiple drones. 
Fortunately DJI listened to me and is releasing the Mavic Pro 4 next month, with excellent IQ as always for the pro line and finally, yes finally vertical shooting. Jesus they took their time…
That one is an instant buy! As for my R5, I am happy with it. The R5II is a joke for me, not too much reason to upgrade. Any new camera that is being released recently is not really better than the R5 so nothing to get excited about.
Well, the R5 II is not as much of a joke as the new Sony A1 II though. Those guys managed to release the exact same camera years later for $6500 haha

Really? ; ) The answer, my friend, is blowing in your own, is blowing in your own post... LOL BTW, where have you been? You as a few others over here are truly missed : ) 
  
Ah and €2762 to $4K is the difference (huge gap for 50% more BTW) enough to make me pull the trigger, you know? 
People have a budget, mine in mid-2020 decade is up to $500 for mini sensor size cams, perhaps other than iPhone but the fact is that I haven't bought one yet ; ) 
$1000-$1500 for a workhorse camera and about $2500 for a premium device. 
Other than that, they don't have my money in their pocket/bank account. I bought a 12K Ursa Mini Pro like new for $3K, so you see... ;- )

More than making sense... It's like the refrigerator POV shots... Hitchcock once called it the cow's perspective when Truffaut asked him why there were no establishing shots for the trains with his movies...

In China launch event there was this slide that says 5 new companies joining the L mount

DJI, Blackmagicdesign, Samyang, Astro, disclosed before. The 5th can be Viltrox. 

You mean it is good at focusing sideways then? 🙂
I would choose S5 over anything pre-A7 III as well as 2012 cameras aren't my bag.
Do you mean a7 IV?
I just think the a7 IV is superior to the S5 in so many ways.
And not in the small stuff but big...
The autofocus. The viewfinder. The mount. The resolution. The lens adapters. The ergonomics.
No-phase-detect-AF is a no-go for 2025.
I just don't know why you'd want to put yourself through the inconvenience especially for video. For stills with native Panasonic glass you can usually get away with DFD just fine though.
The Z6 is like $650 used now, probably one of the all-time great bargains as far as bang for image quality goes.
 

Looks good
https://digitalproduction.com/2025/02/10/redcine-x-beta-embraces-nikon-n-raw/

Since I had the Z9, Nikon seems to have been on a firmware update rampage.
This is just for the Z8...
■ Still Photography
• Added [Pixel shift shooting] to the photo shooting menu.
• Added new picture controls.
• Added [Birds] to [AF subject detection options] in the photo shooting menu.
• The maximum shooting display zoom ratio is now 400%.
• Added [Auto capture] to the photo shooting menu. Users can select capture criteria from [Motion] (the direction the subject is moving), [Distance] (how far the subject is from the camera), and [Subject detection] (whether or not a subject of a given type is detected).
• The length of time the camera will continue to buffer frames before cancelling shooting during the Pre-Release Capture phase of high-speed frame capture + has been increased from 30 to 300 seconds.
• Added [Large] to the size options available for [Secondary slot function] > [JPEG primary - JPEG secondary] in the photo shooting menu.
• Added new bracketing increments for use during auto bracketing with [AE & flash bracketing], [AE bracketing], or [Flash bracketing] selected for [Auto bracketing set]. This change also applies to [Interval timer shooting] > [Options] > [AE bracketing] > [Increment].
■ Video Recording
• Added new picture controls.
• Added [Birds] to [AF subject detection options] in the video recording menu.
• The maximum shooting display zoom ratio is now 400%.
• Added [Auto capture] to the video recording menu. Users can select capture criteria from [Motion] (the direction the subject is moving), [Distance] (how far the subject is from the camera), and [Subject detection] (whether or not a subject of a given type is detected).
• Added low ISO sensitivity options to [ISO sensitivity settings] > [ISO sensitivity (mode M)] for use during N-Log video recording.
• Changed the range of speeds available for Hi-Res Zoom.
• The color of the in-focus AF-area brackets shown on the shooting display when Hi-Res Zoom is enabled has been changed.
• Hi-Res Zoom operations can now be performed using the sub-selector.
• Added slow-motion video recording.
■ Playback
• Added [Playback speed] in the video playback “i” menu.
• Added [Auto image rotation] in the playback menu.
• Added [Auto series playback options] to [Series playback] in the playback menu.
• Made changes to the [Select for upload to computer] and [Select for upload (FTP)] items in the playback “i” menu and added [Select for priority upload to computer] and [Select for priority upload (FTP)].
■ Controls
• Added [Half-press to cancel zoom (MF)] item to the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] in positions d18 and g17.
• Added [Focus point border width] to a11 [Focus point display] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].
• Changes have been made to how a full format is performed with [Format memory card] in the [SETUP MENU].
• White balance and exposure compensation can now be adjusted while recalling the shooting function settings.
• Added support for the power zoom feature on power zoom lenses.
• Added an [Exposure delay mode] item to the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] in position d6.
• Added to the custom controls and roles assignable via the following items in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU]. New reset options have also been added.
- f2[Custom controls (shooting)]
- f3[Custom controls (playback)]
- g2[Custom controls]
   Choose [Prefer focus point] or [Prefer focus point (face priority)] for f3 [Custom controls (playback)] > [Main command dial] or [Sub-command dial] > [Frame advance zoom position].
The settings for f3 [Custom controls (playback)] > [Main command dial] or [Sub-command dial] > [Frame advance] can now be applied during playback zoom.
• Made updates to [Non-CPU lens data] in the [SETUP MENU].
• Increased the character limit from 3 to 256 for “Category” entries in IPTC presets.
• Restructured the [Camera sounds] item in the [SETUP MENU] with the addition of new options, including new sounds and volume level adjustment for the electronic shutter.
■ Displays
• Added focus-distance information to the focus distance indicator displayed during manual focus.
• The option selected for [Viewfinder display size] (formerly [Finder display size (photo Lv)]) in the [SETUP MENU] now also applies in video and playback modes.
■ Network (Also NX Field)
• A warning now appears when the connection to an ATOMOS AirGlu BT accessory is unstable or disrupted.
• ATOMOS AirGlu BT accessories and MC-N10 remote grips can now be used together.
• Made changes and additions to the [Connect to FTP server] item in the [NETWORK MENU].
• Changed the procedure used when configuring the camera for synchronized release, increasing to twenty the number of groups that can be created, while the number of cameras in each group that can be controlled from the master camera has been increased to sixteen.
• Added [Overwrite copyright info] under [Connect to other cameras] in the [NETWORK MENU].
■ App-Related Changes
With NX MobileAir:
• the camera live view display for photo mode now shows NX MobileAir status, and
• camera settings saved to a memory card using [Save/load menu settings] can now be downloaded to the smart device or copied from the smart device to the camera memory card using NX MobileAir.
■ Other Changes
• The time the shooting display goes dark after shutter is released when [ON] is selected for [Photo flicker reduction] in the [PHOTO SHOOTING MENU] has become shorter.
• Improved the accuracy of [3D-tracking] for small, fast-moving subjects when [Auto], [People], [Animal], or [Vehicle] is chosen for [AF subject detection options] and no subject of the selected type is detected.
• Improved focus lock-on with flicker detection in low-speed continuous release mode.
• Made other improvements to the autofocus operation and its reliability.
• Fixed an issue that sometimes resulted in the viewfinder darkening during playback when [Auto] was selected for [Viewfinder brightness].
• It is now easier to obtain the correct exposure from the first shot during interval-timer photography in high-contrast settings or settings dark enough for starlight view.
• The histogram display is no longer available when starlight view is enabled.
• Changed the video low-capacity warning so that it is now displayed in white on a red background when there is less than one minute remaining. The warning is now also displayed when recording is not in progress.
• Users now have more precise control when scrolling through videos during playback using the progress bar.
• When [AF-area mode] is set to [3D-tracking] and the human subject is large relative to the frame and multiple eyes are detected near the tracking focus point, the camera will assign priority for focusing to the eye closer to the point.
• The RGB histogram is now easier to view when [Mode 1] or [Mode 2] is selected for d11 [Warm display colors] in [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].
• Fixed the following issues:
- Photos taken with interval-timer photography could sometimes be underexposed.
- Flash may not sometimes fire during focus shift.
- The focus position unintentionally returned to the position saved using [Save focus position] if standby timer was expired while power was supplied via USB and a WR-R10 was attached.
- Optimal exposure could sometimes not achieved in burst or focus shift shooting.
- Pressing the AF-ON button immediately ended playback when [Playback] was assigned to [AF-ON button] and [Prioritize viewfinder (2)] was selected for monitor mode.
- Shutter release was sometimes disabled when “Bulb” was selected for shutter speed.
- Focus point selection using the multi selector and sub-selector was unavailable if a touch operation was performed using [Position focus point] when [3D-tracking] was selected for AF-area mode.
- Fine-tuning values set in [AF fine-tuning options] in the setup menu did not apply while the subject is detected with [Wide-area AF (S)], [Wide-area AF (L)], [Wide-area AF (C1)], or [Wide-area AF (C2)] selected for [AF-area mode].
- With some lenses, the shutter release was sometimes disabled in burst photography if the lens zoom ring was rotated.
Changes from “C” Firmware Version 1.00 to 1.01
• Changed the timing of the high-temperature warnings appearing when the camera’s internal temperature increases mainly during video recording.
• Changed the position where the memory card high-temperature warning is displayed in video mode.
• Fixed the following issues:
- The battery would draw down more quickly while the camera was off if [ON] was selected for [Connect to smart device] > [Wi-Fi connection] in the [NETWORK MENU] even if [OFF] was selected for both [Bluetooth connection] and [Upload while off].
- Focus could still be adjusted using the focus ring when [Disable] was selected for a15 [Manual focus ring in AF mode] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] if an option other than [Non-linear] was chosen for f9 [Focus ring rotation range] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].

The Z8, and Z6 III just got firmware updates a week or so ago for shutter angle.