Emanuel

S9 in da house.
Cage still on back order…and it really needs it as not having any kind of grip is at the moment my only gripe.
I knew that when I ordered it though and it’s just a matter of time…
Gets it’s first run out a week today and will be my sole video unit for that job as the couple have not booked full ceremony or video coverage/productions, so will be interesting to see if shooting approx 250x 10 second clips can produce any overheating issues.
I suspect it will not, but one of my S5ii’s will be on standby just in case.
Provided it passes that test, it will remain as my lightweight run & gun unit paired with the Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 and Rode Micro. Total weight including cage when it arrives, around 1kg which is nuts for a 6k 30p, no gimbal required, handheld beast.

Actually, the Sigma EF APS-C 18-35 F1.8 lives on my R7.  I only use EF lenses on my R7 for one important reason......because I can use the Meike vND RF to EF adapter with them. It turns the R7 into the perfect video camera. I would lose that with RF lenses. Using EF lenses is great as well because they are so cheap but optically excellent, so if you need something "new" you will save a lot of money vs RF. Yes the RF lenses are sharper but with video that's not necessarily a good thing.
Really the only two lenses I use on my R7 for everything is the EF 24-105 F4 for daylight projects and the Sigma EF 18-35 F1.8 for low light projects.
If I get the R5 II I will probably keep the same setup...EF lenses only with vND for video.  Canon never seems to confirm that the R5 has dual native ISO (800 and 3200) but if the R5II does have dual native ISO then 3200 will mean I can use slower lenses like the 24-70 F2.8 at night which would replace the Sigma 18-35. I also need to research the crop modes some more; I will be interested to see what kind of quality the crop modes provide. If they are equivalent or better than the R7 then I can still use my Sigma 18-35 on the R5II.
I am still not a fan of the R5C, no IBIS is the main deal breaker because I shoot almost exclusively handheld, also the R5C has lower DR than the R5II as evidenced by the omission of CLOG2, and the whole switching entire OS to go from photo to video was never appealing to me either. 

Yup, night and day ;- )

There is a chance to go past 3" screens on the larger mirrorless cameras.
All they need to do is reposition the joystick and get rid of the large jog wheel.
Then the buttons below the screen can be screen icons as touch screens work better 5" rather than 3.
When the screen is flipped out, it won't be any heavier as we'd use an OLED panel and titanium frame.
At any rate it would definitely still be much lighter than a smartphone as it is just the panel, no internals like battery.
So it shouldn't unbalance the camera when in use, and I'd prefer it to flip out rather than twizzle out anyway.
Why haven't we gone past 3" do you think? Lack of demand, cost, or something else?

But great news if you want a big built-in screen and minimal physical buttons...   the camera already exists and is fairly affordable, especially when on sale.
 
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

Dreamy, dreamlike*... is another kind.
*where 24fps is only part of the equation
- EAG :- )

haha but it's that infamous 50fps you were used to praise here, remember? ; )
I like to have it at disposal though... lots of details, opens a bunch of distinct routes such as hybrid use for fashion, large format print, etc., straight from video stream to also stills use at same time, for example.
Motion blur and softness (for some reason people are addicted to bokeh) is key for cinematic outcome anyway.
- EAG

Ready for mainstream : ) However, doesn't beat Filippo Chiesa's GH5s entry to promote such a GH series camera release IMO (BTW, as you've recently recalled, dai...).
https://www.promirrorless.it/pro-mirrorless/filippo-chiesa-a-lavoro-con-panasonic-gh5s

r5ii 8k is too sharp to my eyes, like news. I feel a little uncomfortable. 
no good legend looks much more cinematic. not sure which takes were done with gh7. not sure if they did filtration. 

@zlfan trying not to hijack the R5II thread...
 
 
The final short film
 
 
 

WTH... and my people at home think we are all insane for camera related stuff : D Well, at least we do it by written! LOL : P

WTH... and my people at home think we are all insane for camera related stuff : D Well, at least we do it by written! LOL : P

Another level, really
 

I thought camera opinion videos were getting a bit obsessive when that guy a few weeks ago left his kids alone inside the holiday cabin as he couldn't possibly wait another minute to get on the porch and share his thoughts on a camera rumour with the wider world on YouTube but.....
Well, this is on another level.
The moral of the tale is that even when staring down the long tunnel into the abyss he still stands by his decision to buy the Z8.

And this
 
The main takeaway for me from this yet another launch short is that today you can do anything with any camera as long as you have budget and skill. The quality is very high now. From what you see on this short at the end they didn't even use cinema lenses but all standard Canon stuff
To this if they gave it an FX3, FX5, S5 or an Alexa, the result would be indistinguishable. Bravo to the DoP and the colorist.
The Creator, 100M USD budget shot all with the FX3 studied and designed by Dune DOP Greig Fraser, oscar award winner for Dune, says it all. Then you see the stuff done by Philip Chiesa with a Gh5S and you have further confirmation.
Then of course everyone has their own preferences and fixations but this is the hard and pure reality.
 
P.S.
A little too orange & teal for my taste. The days of Michael Bay are gone 😄

I dunno... Not too much orange and teal there for something apparently fresh and new?

FX3 can overheat, this guy I know (I shot with him a few time) said his FX3 did overheat on him.
If you search online there are FX3 overheating discussions
https://forum.sony-rumors.com/full-frame-mirrorless-cameras/overheating-issues-and-cooling-solutions-for-the-sony-fx3/
 
FX30 on the other hand I haven't seen anyone claim their one overheated, me and my friend's FX30 has been pretty rock steady sofar.
 
So in terms of overheating I think only Panasonic really did some extra miles for their solution.

Very true, well stated : ) Reason why that mention to the FX30 BTW. I've just bought one because seems they have succeeded where others fail.
However, as you said with Panny example and @kye has written, no excuses unless for overcharges with one more accessory to sell like hotdogs, they bet : D

It's insane that the sub 2k S5 ii has a built in fan and this doesn't.

BMMCC has a fan and it was $995 only a few years ago when it went EOL.  Plus it is like 30% of the size.
The BM Micro Studio Camera 4K G2 is a current model, which is also $995, and tiny by comparison.  It has been used for 24 hour races in ridiculous conditions and performed flawlessly.
No excuses for overheating, except for significant/extreme weather and dust sealing requirements.

Yup, I've just seen it:
Looks like an interesting attempt for issues which made me completely away from the predecessor and Z8 either. So, go imagine how much they have lost with a glass addicted like me... LOL ; )
Here's Gordon's written input, I like this guy because he is oldschool as far as his approach concerns. Who needs any different route? ;- )
https://www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-r5-mark-ii-review/

As to the question of "how" it will work, I saw earlier that the vents are on the bottom of the camera body and on one of the sides.  One would assume that the grip has holes that mate with the holes on the bottom of the camera and the fan accelerates air flow through the camera and over the sensor.  This would also explain why it doesn't help a lot in the most demanding modes - it's a pretty clunky way get air over the relevant components.
It still doesn't seem like a cause for the rage that sometimes accompanies recording limits, though.  Being able to roll 37 minutes of 8kp30 without a fan and 120+ minutes with one is pretty alright.  4kp60 says 120+ minutes as well without a fan.  Seems like a fine mode for long-form interviews, concerts, etc.  
If you need to run 8kp60 raw or 4kp120 takes for more than 20 minutes or so, Canon will be glad to let you know that you should choose a different camera for that - like their very own R5C which has a much better cooling system and is available on the used market for more than $1,000 less than this camera.  😅

I agree, on the cameras that have a battery grip I have never taken them off, but for this scenario where I don't want a battery grip for my gimbal camera but I do want it for my photography camera and I also want both to be the same body, then the versatility is great.
I think 4K60FPS is line skipped, and we still have no idea about overheating so there's that. Also, I would bet money my pet peeve is still there....the video tools like the electronic level and WFM disappear while recording...you know...when you need them the most.
Actually, I think it will be pretty effective. The Cinema line all have a similar fan setup and I have never had my C70 or C200 overheat. The way it works in the R5 II is that it has passive cooling vents on the bottom with the exhaust out to the side. If you add a cooling grip it will pull air through the grip, push it through the bottom intake and vent out the side....this is how they managed to keep weather sealing for the actual body but also offer an active cooling option.
For 8K it will still not be enough, but for 4K it should do the trick for most situations. The real question here is will you need it for say a 2hr interview or dance recital or live event when shooting 4K30FPS. My R7 can run unlimited in that scenario at 4K30FPS line skipped. At 4K30FPS oversampled it will overheat in about an hour.

That price difference is absolutely nuts.
The R5 II is objectively worse than a Z8... Not by a lot, but in terms of the overall technology under the hood, the fact it needs a fan, the lack of ProRes and the worse RAW codec, and also the worse lens mount which cannot accept adapters to Sony E-mount - and I am not sure there is a autofocusing Leica M adapter either? Or Super 16mm c-mount? So that for me, is what killed the EOS R3 vs Nikon Z9 and it is same with the new models.
Overheating times don't make for great reading either:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-r5-ii-initial-review/2
Seems like just the original R5 with a re-worked fan from the EOS R5C in terms of thermals of the processor and sensor.
And what's up with the R1 - for something that has cooked for 3 and a half years longer than a Sony a1, you'd think it would move the bar a lot higher - instead it is a reheated 1D X Mark III!
That for me is a bit of a shocker.
I was expecting something completely new and something which really put the relatively old-ish R3 and Z9 in the shade.
I guess Canon decided that sports photographers didn't want the extra file sizes of 50MP+, so they played it relatively conservatively?

I feel like there's a huge difference between fans that are part of the camera's body (where it gets hottest) and fans that are attached externally to a camera's body. I'm not saying that it won't help, just that it seems inefficient compared to putting active cooling right into the body itself. Certainly for the price I don't see why they couldn't, as I refuse to believe that the extra parts needed would significantly raise manufacturing costs. Panasonic did it for a camera that is half the cost, afterall.