Emanuel

Horses for courses, Don... ; ) They are not the same thing. SOOC is a wholly different story, just to begin with. Neither XH1 beats 10bit 4:2:2 nor 4K60p... let alone the dual ISO per se, so... :-)

Let's give 2nd look on that test a chance... People generally have that idea. Banding depends on the bit depth. That test leads to a bit different path though. Actually, it is even beyond color sampling, also bit rate. That is, not only bit depth. Practice redefines theory much often to keep going to ignore the evidence : ) Mark's @markr041 posts hinted it all :-)

Color-wise SOOC, we know the beat... : D Now a different story as far as RS concerns ;-)

Hope not, but this has been a real issue on small size form factor; no matter how much I appreciate that ; ) This time is not color science related :-D As disclaimer, Sony was my 1st video love to follow Super 8 BTW, so maybe handheld is one of weaknesses I guess LOL :-)

Indeed interesting to figure out the camera AF response in a mix of both manual and autofocus handling for tap-to-focus technique in the field usage.

Yes, SOOC is not a minus... My fair doubt on overheating issues on Sony 4K side though.

@Kisaha I agree with you. But please let's not compare color science between manufacturers! IMNSO people tend to understate this important aspect of making pictures. Just sayin' : ) FF look or similar is nothing but also a full combination of lots of aspects, optics included. Add an inexpensive f/0.95 Mitakon, only as an example, and you'll have it on APS-C format as you well know it :-)

Low bit rate will invariably offer banding.

Good luck to those guys going along the A7III... LOL :-)

Kudos to @Andrew Reid for his achievement to have created the most interesting web corner as far as tools on hybrid realm concerns! I firmly believe this is the present and future of the pictures in general and this forum has hinted this well beyond the time in a way truly visionary and revolutionary platform: revolution is not only to launch the tools, also to think them! Users make them too, no doubts there. With about 0.85% contribution for the whole of it : D allow me to this expressive jollification IMNSO. Cheers, E :-)

I don't think there's antipathy, but not to understate 8-bit acquisition.

Dave, will you be able to compare the three regular GH5, GH5S and X-H1?

Funny. I find the above example much more interesting for the subject matter there in that picture than this whole hole this new high sensitivity offers. Not every tech aspect will really help this art and craft. Just thinking out loud here, not directly addressed to any side on discussion :-)

@Young What about Olympus, any clue as far as this issue concerns? I am wondering if this is something related to only Fuji's, PDAF cameras or actually more beyond than only there. I find it very seriously on this example posted from this new Sony camera. It is rather funny like some usual suspects rest silent on this one... Actually a few of them, as for instance Yuryev, are pretty quick to identify all the sort of shortcomings on other devices (go figure GH5 series or Fuji :D) but when it is a Sony... well LOL :-)

@webrunner5 Go on Sigma glass, Don : ) Funny you had dismissed the GH5S suddenly now :-)

Just shooting circumstances, only that ; ) even though, in theory and practice, codec and bit rate may help... :-)

Don't be so pessimist : ) Non-intra 200mbps should be enough to overcome eventual weak bit depth issues... :-)

I see. Thank you for your enlightenment from your own experience. I wonder if this is also related to QC issues not present in every single unit. Sensor related obviously.

In Resolve it is easier I think. Really 100% effective? Maybe better to prevent it from shooting.

No way, I am not mod but this thread is going in the perfect direction. Thanks for that. I think lower ISO would bring you out to mitigate the issue I guess. Perhaps the reason why in my experience I've been rid of it.

Sure Matthew, if you follow my posting you'll find the same attitude, no worries : ) I mean it seriously. I had added a similar perspective inside some other paragraph meaning but you seemed to have missed it from my earlier post :-) Indeed (out of likes again... this 10-likes limitation is a bitch but post count is post count :D) aside the fact these cheap devices are not exactly outside because of lack of cinematic properties despite any much more expensive tool must bring some add-on to play with, well said, I invariably much appreciate your insights too :-)

@Matthew Hartman Well, well, I'd say they don't give a damn for the camera to be used. Not when money pops up anyway. Not exactly to save their pennies for ; ) That's a double-edged sword. Arri as camera manufacturer is a different story and yes, they had to go after whatsoever. Michael Bravin episode (I even had the chance to trade some messaging with him then) is there to testify. Jim and Jarred also took their part on their marketing plot. The same a couple of years later with Sony. This decade. The transition is made in the previous decade though. Of course, DoPs have their input to give but the fees side of the story still stands. Indies will always mark the history of this medium since when Chaplin, Griffith, Fairbanks and Pickford founded United Artists a century ago. I guess you missed that part from my previous post (Cheers, E :-)

Thanks for answering : ) Fair informative. Unable to see the camera info metadata from here. What camera and lens exactly? What about exposure? Have anyone of you tested to play with in order to mitigate the issue?

Thanks for the link. Here's another one on topic as far as Fuji concerns:

BTW, have you ever noticed this issue shown in the next links with your current Fuji camera going on your style of shooting at theatre along back light setups?