Emanuel

4K/60p and internal 10-bit 4:2:2 for less than fast frame rates in such small form factor will be quite of a jump but feasible? No other chance to compete with the other contender, isn't it? ;-)

"The Basic Model." they say. Funny to say the least :-)

Word. I think it is more cheap talk to somehow fulfill his review. Northrup style BTW :-) hehe It happened with me in the first google search attempts to follow news about : D Great camera of good memory BTW :-) Do you still remember those two versions of same camera?

That one I guess: On the other one posted today mentioned now, I think matches the color type offered by Fuji instead. I agree with you on the interview part though. LOL You are really on the spot... : ) There's nothing wrong as far as resolution goes.

But, is it worthy to deliver it going on with YT compression even @4K resolution?

What clip exactly? I see differences between stills and video not always but as usual when we're speaking on distinct acquisition media, obviously. I recall they state they were all produced and shot on X-H1 4K as matter of fact (even though, slowmotion surely not). So I guess we should believe so, no? :-) Have you seen the 2nd one from those three posted above? Interesting stuff. Fits Fuji dream-like imagerie. Seems all shot on this camera.

Why don't you take all that for the private realm? (proper exchange of email addresses would be a good beginning to keep going the issue out there as you wish; we are all entitled to have our preferences, likes and hates, only that in the right corner because forums really need healthy vibes and beats instead) On the real topic, here's more from and about the tool (it doesn't deserve the presence of people interested to discuss anything else including something of their very own -- personal agendas, old, new, etc but not the camera at all as seems so): PS: New page, new life, let's move on :-)

LOL Now this thread has become a world war III... Chill out guys! All this happens in the best of the families : ) Important is to have perspective on ourselves included. Without mention to recover the hand over there when things are going out of control. :-)

Context is also crucial when not critical especially when we don't give the necessary care for the context indeed. We are going 'to misquote' misplacing the meaning to begin with. Is that a good service? Usually, I tend to avoid quoting less than entire paragraphs when it is possible to see there was a purpose behind the formulation of the whole unit of it. Respecting the source, not misleading myself or others under the risk to end misinterpreted. People have so many aspects to consider, so we can push for the best to fit us or our needs. Avoiding the part we really can put to rest. As previously already written, there's no perfection no matter the place we are. Without mention, we'll never please everyone or every sides of the equation. So many sides we have.

People are not perfect, mate. I wish we could : D Well, that would be much of a boring world, I believe :-D When I mention 'indirect invectives', you know very well why : ) Your posting is above the line. I mean it seriously. Your background shows a much higher education than the average here or anywhere else. So it is natural you retain the profile of other posters in a different way than others. But this applies for your provocations as well. It is a double-edged sword. The same for the use of a non-native language in our written expression mode. For example, "invective" in my mother tongue has a much lighter meaning. This will produce misunderstandings between people at distance behind a keyboard and a mouse. I know this would be much different face to face in the real world. So we need to make an effort trying to mimic it here. To refrain ourselves of a dangerous vibe to send indirect messages which can hurt some other party. Egos must also be under control. Even because they don't pass indiscreet to the eyes of a smart reader and we are all clever interpreters here, ain't we? :-)

Let's moderate the tone of accusations addressed to each other, OK? I speak in general for everyone, myself included if/when necessary. Respect is good and keep the teeth in the right place. Ad hominem attacks only show weak arguments or the complete lack of them. Indirect invectives to inject and fuel the rupture don't help either. People are here to have fun and make friends, not the opposite! :-)

This is going out of control, I see. First time ever I've heard about threats here or any other forum I frequent. I think this calls the intervention of moderation to use the conversation method to begin with in order to calm down and prevent the conflict escalation. Going higher if/when strictly necessary to also follow the respective understanding of the facts especially when there are visible communication barriers to comprehend people from different parts and much distinct linguistic backgrounds in the use of a 2nd language included. Diplomacy applies. I also believe Andrew as owner of this place will appreciate to know whatever is going on behind the curtains. We visit his home after all. This care is not only there. Begins here at first place. Where inflammatory replies -- insidious provocations to somehow quote someone else but requalifying the meaning should also stay away. To take position is one thing. To fracture another one. But then we are talking about something else, not cameras anymore. I'd suggest you might add print screens on that you claim. No need to post the whole dirty laundry not even the name of the user as you've paid the attention to. Only the threats. No more need to flame the hordes here. We could evaluate the whole thing much better. On the other hand, persuasive techniques handling the conflict usually work out more efficiently so this can refrain to become repeated experiences over again, even as example for the future. PS: You beat me with your post, Mattias. Good from you to come here and drop your entry to clarify and tell from your angle once disclosed.

Indeed, I believe we should cultivate here polygamy, healthy attitude to have with cameras... :-)

I guess all footage there is shot on the model to advertise, no other makes much sense to me or everyone when there's a professional product to promote, isn't it?

I'm all out of likes by now, so my double like expressed here now : ) Dogmas can be a real bitch! Open mind is useful even for religious stuff :-)

These guys deserve our best fanboism, I must confess, I love Fuji! My deep fanboism syndrome says to you to take a look on that really basic macro shot on 0:46 in the next clip below... Others can do it but it is like Oreo or BMW, there's similar but no other's the same :-) We all know there are better acquisition devices with extra features, one of them my beloved GH5 with 4K/60p or internal 10-bit 4:2:2 when not for fast frame rates, but I am still in love for any picture from any Fuji camera. I wish all camera manufacturers may give us their outcome look. Or maybe not. Because we couldn't be here to praise their superior (let's go all on to forbid pure reality made by 8-bit imagerie) color science :-D In a bit more serious footnote now: don't worry too much on 8-bit when you have a superior bit rate to reach enough standard to mimic or alternate the real world out there within certain variables under control :-)

On topic, I only know what I read and think about it. To Caesar what is Caesar's. When people try to misplace science for territory of subjectivity ends in some mess as this thread now. We are not perfect. But the most perfect method is the scientific method indeed. Certain conclusions are not evidences though. Neither polls. Democracy doesn't apply for everything. Knowledge is not a democratic system. I wish. The world would be much more simple as it is. Reality too.

Math is not opinion. Neither science is democracy. And fascists... you said? Oh, fascists are a dirty class we need to avoid from the most inner part of ourselves. Even those who feel above the line in disguise of decent people. When their attitude (that's the clue!) shows something much different ;-) About that one addressed to me now? ; ) Let's go: I don't see much difference between your fan basis there on YT and in this forum to be sincere with you. I'm sorry to have to tell you here responding you now that I follow your posts on both for longer than you tend to guess :-)

Apart any controversy in particular, you're right on the spot with this one... LOL Neat crazy thread, this one! : ) From now on, every truth fits because of democratic opinions : D A new scientific method is born... the democratic method to have (or make? hehe) science! :-)

So despite the initial text posted, we ain't speaking about crowd then... ; ) What distinguishes them from the forum crowd here (inferred from that "in the non forum world", as written) ? ;-) Each one is entitled to his/her own opinion, correct. This doesn't mean the opinion is accurate though... :-)

I wonder if people out there are aware about what some features like 'Dynamic Range' mean... : D In any case, as just posted in another thread, reliability (my 1st option ever to begin with) cannot be in the same line with ergonomics (such subjective thing) because they are quite distinct aspects to consider so this will obviously lead to somehow other poll results: On the other hand, the weight of preferences must also be evaluated for the reading to take from here, that is: When we set an option as ours, this doesn't mean we don't praise some other else in a similar or close way, so multiple choice for more than one option must be taken as valuable path. If not, for certain polls, the results can end rather distorted when some variables ain't taken in consideration. Even because reliability can be my very own 1st specs list pick-up item but this doesn't mean when this is already guaranteed, other features may not be much more relevant to me. It is unlikely we are looking for a 2nd pizza if we already finished a 1st one. Dessert will apply then as next step. Go figure the first thing to ask in a Pizzeria would be the dolce... LOL The same way people often have children as second level ; ) on their lives to follow the 1st row when having met the best 2nd half. And so on. No billionaire will be worried with millions anymore after to have completed the 1st billion or at least we expect or think so ;-) When reliability is basis for. Common to all or most part of the players, we can discuss the leftover. Even though not everyone is going after the same for some other needs. As for instance, no special reliability is needed for a crash cam... :-D

I see color is placed in the 2nd choice of users to follow dynamic range. Build quality means reliability, it should not be misplaced with ergonomics because they are mixed up stuff. If I would have had the option for reliability per se, I'd have chosen it straightaway. Ergo is pretty subjective. What fits you is well able to not match the taste of anyone and vice versa.

Word. Some are only innocuous tests like the customary flowers, children and cats, though : ) On the hardware differences, there's nothing we can't obviously do but as already stated, nothing some other workaround gear may not solve within certain limits. For some reason we need to couple some piece of glass there to begin with ; ) Not really convinced there are substantial differences on the Dynamic Range level or even highlights rolloff. Dual ISO is there, is real and sweet, not mere marketing as I could read here by Sony clientele basis, despite that. I believe the problem for the other fellow here or under that respective angle is not the 2500 mark but the difference (500 for the case but could be another one) the buyer doesn't feel like to afford. Not because the client can't or have no clue how to pay for it : D but certain principles still apply. It is not a matter to discuss if a firmware will or not to overcome it. Panasonic followed Sony. Why? Is it possible to overwhelm that with the next upgrade GH6 series step? Only then? What about adjusting the price difference between both versions of the same camera model? Well, to begin with, they are not actually the same camera, but two distinct ones. They share the same market range anyway. Only a nonrestrictive strategy on the market segment or a new pricing policy might be the answer. However, as a few have already predicted, it is even possible their GHx series price will end higher once as you Jon have fairly pointed out now and many of us have been restless to defend here and everywhere: 2500 bucks is a no-brainer deal for what this acquisition device delivers at this level. Last but not least, the prices are beyond the traditional 4/3" format framing because of their video abilities. The ease of cheap adapters to couple practically any single mount system also help this to happen. A certain thing is for sure though: they would have to rethink their margins if they would feel their competitors are coming tougher and closer to them. To my view, that's where they still end their decisions as far as we've seen on their GH5/GH5S dichotomy so far. Much more than large pixels size vs higher resolution sensor or lack of IBIS with ridiculous excuses or as you wish, they start or could end exactly there.

Fully agreed. Internet is a much more interesting place nowadays than film school was a few years back when film was around. There's no excuse to not create today (E :-)

@anonim Yes, keep the regular GH5 inside the ISO1600 limits with fast glass and an affordable focal reducer adapter like Viltrox as for instance and you'll have the same GH5S performance for that piece : ) Finely shot as much as that one by Filippo, of course :-)