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The GFX100 is the most misunderstood camera on the market. It's a full frame mirrorless camera, which just so happens to have an even larger sensor and the highest resolution of any mirrorless camera. In the full frame mode it is 60mp, like an a7r V. In the medium format mode, it is more like full frame+ rather than real medium format like a Hasselblad film camera, so the full frame lenses still work. Had it been an even larger sensor or a reflex camera with a mirror, of course you'd need to get the native lenses but really you don't. So that brings the cost down massively and opens up the creative possibilities more than any other camera I know. Also what people don't understand is that the smaller GFX 100S is a significantly cost cut version, which doesn't feel anywhere near as good. The OG GFX100 has the best build quality and ergonomics of any mirrorless camera, full stop. The size isn't too bad, and neither is weight a problem. It's closer to a Nikon Z9 than a RED. I also really like the top display and gunmetal blue, and the detachable viewfinder which the GFX 100S doesn't have. It becomes completely flat on top without it, which is somehow quite charming and brings the profile down. With it, the EVF is one of the best on the market - big, detailed, fast. With superb IBIS and on-sensor phase-detect AF it has all the bells and whistles. You put a humdrum 50 dollar M42 lens on there and it looks like a fucking Noctilux. And this is the part I don't understand - the lack of awareness for that, and the massive depreciation as if nobody wants it. This was a $10,000 camera when it came out, and it came out in the modern era not in the fucking 90s! At half that price apparently it didn't really sell, so second hand prices kept going down and down. Now it is less than the price of a Z6 III! It makes that camera feel like a complete toy.

The Fringer works the best, much more reliable, dependable than the Techart with really the peak performance in terms of AF, but beware going wider than 40mm as you will see vignetting on a lot more lenses, especially the 24mm f1.4. You can shoot 35mm crop mode (full frame) on the GFX 100 but not in video mode. Minolta MD and A mount lenses work well but for autofocus you need that Fringer EF adapter.

I’ve been so tempted with a used OG GFX100 except for one thing and that is no AF zoom option outside of the native lenses which for me are either too big or too slow. Or both. Now if Fuji X was just full-frame instead of APSC… Nah, I’ll stick with my A7RV. S1R is a VERY good option for the price though 👍

FWIW, the Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 seems to be the most popular cheap/light/small lens to pair with a GF body. Autofocus works great with Fringer and there's no hard vignette - and it's nearly a full stop faster than the Fujinon 50/3.5.

If the Wish camera had a 10mm F2 prime on a 1" flagship smartphone sensor and shot 4K and RAW stills I'd probably get one myself for $150!

The GFX100 is about 300-400g heavier than the SL2 or S1R, so depending on what small nifty lens you put on it, it could in total end up lighter than those. Good luck!

ehhh... if someone is going to spend eighty bucks on a camera then for goodness sake don't get one from Amazon You can get an old Sony NEX body instead for that price: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=sony+nex&_sacat=0&_sop=15&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3000

Yeah I've lusted after the 100 since day one. I just saw one sell for below $2k. The 100s is in my budget and size and for travel I could really use the savings in weight and extra space in the bag. Ideally I would save up for the 100ii and at around $5,000 I could make that work. For now a 100s for $2,000 would be a nice intro into the system and allow me to start playing with all this vintage glass. Yeah, maybe not the same build quality as the original with better design and EVF. I'll keep an eye out for a deal. Bidding on an S1R for below $1,000 at the moment, Talking to a local chap for an SL2 at $2,000 and keeping an eye out for a steal on a GFX 100/s. Fun Times...!!! At least one of these high MP monsters will be under the tree soon.

Ah yes, the mythical "basic consumers" out there snatching up Lumix cameras! I'm all for going after casual users, but these cameras ain't it. No one getting into mirrorless cameras (or starting a YouTube channel) is going to pick up a G97 over the Sony ZV-E10 or Canon R50, as both are significantly more affordable, are more popular brands, and have features people want like PDAF. I am fully invested in Lumix cameras and lenses, but even I wouldn't recommend the G97 to a casual user.

Hey, I think all the camera makers would fight to keep them or get them back. They've kept the whole industry afloat helping them afford the high-end stuff. Honestly when you see the crap Chinese cameras on Amazon, all the Japanese cameras are better, regardless make or year- all of them. I actually feel really bad for the people that get those "48MP" cameras with only a cellphone sensor and no optical zoom. My Dad got one before he died and when he purchased it, he seemed quite happy. He probably felt different or didn't know better soon after. I don't know why Amazon allows that stuff that is clearly filled with false advertising.

Basic bitches.

Exactly. When I overhear people trying out/discussing/buying cameras in stores and at local camera shows, my impression is that taking still photos is the most important reason for buying a camera. Video hardly gets mentioned - it's a secondary 'nice to have, just in case' feature, not the main reason for buying what is perceived as a 'stills' camera (mostly because MILCs still look like traditional 35mm film cameras, I guess). What sells reasonably well for camera manufacturers is probably quite different to what interests people on this video-orientated forum (I know that's the case for me).

After watching the live stream, Sean (of Lumix) said the two new cameras released this week were good sellers in the past and they expect this minor update will keep them as decent sellers into the future. Basically, they're still marked as "available". I'm going to speculate they wanted to change one or two things on them (to make them more competitive of sorts) and they simply had to give them a new product name. Legal made them put the USB-C (with USB 2 speeds). No, they aren't for us- they're for basic consumers.

By advice would be to dump L-mount and get the GFX 100 with the Fringer EF adapter and Leica M adapter for GFX. It's glorious. The extra pizazz it brings to old SLR lenses when you find a good match, the XPan style wide aspect ratio mode, the massive sensor, the really good 10bit 4K, and the best build quality I have ever had the pleasure of, way better than the SL3 with it's terrible screen construction and dodgy on/off button (couldn't even get that right!) As an added bonus... the phase-detect AF works REALLY well with the Fringer EF adapter and the 50mm F1.4, which is hardly an expensive Canon lens, doesn't have significant vignetting on the larger GFX format sensor.

I considered both for my needs and in the end went for something ‘in the middle’, the A7RV. And I can’t really fault it. It’s a much better piece of kit than the A7CR (better lens platform, vastly better rear screen, 2 card slots…) and not far off the 100mp sensor of the Fuji whilst being more compact and offering far more lens options, never mind the far superior AF. For travel, I’d say its case goes up even further based on the size and weight of the body and the lenses. I know one thing based on my most recent trip to Paris and that is I would not go out on any serious urban or landscape shoot without my 70-180 again. I have mine with the Tamron f2.8 trio of; 20-40, 28-75, 70-180 and when you also factor in one click switch to 26mp crop mode, the focal range and sheer quality of output from such a compact small bag set up, is bonkers. And cost-wise, all available on the used market at pretty decent prices. I think you could score the lot for around 5k not including anything you might sell to help fund it. Japan is No.1 on my bucket list. I would even need to think about what I’d take because it would be this body and 3 lens set up with one small bag.

On the first day (not) of Christmas, my dealer sold to me, a Leica SL3. (OK, an SL2) On the second day (not) of Christmas, my dealer sold to me, a Canon R3. (OK, an R5) On the third day (not) of Christmas, my dealer sold to me, a Nikon Z6III. (OK, a Canon R5)