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When I was reading the comment I double checked to see if I m in the right group, which I was. That post really irks the Sony shill in the group cause most of the comment is about the title or wait til Sony releases.

I spoke with the gentleman I buy my gear from at the local store here in Toronto, He is also pretty sure these are new post Tariff pricing! I'm guessing there is no point comparing pricing between brands until all of them raise to counter tariffs... (sigh)

True, they also want to discourage cheap grey imports into the US.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1892230-REG/panasonic_dc_s1m2body_lumix_s1ii_mirrorless_camera.html It's very unclear!

Theoretically, this is true, but in some cases, manufacturers will raise prices across the board. In some cases, to subsidize a lower profit margin in the US while keeping the prices reasonable. The whole thing is a freakin' mess. Heck, Leica raised prices in Canada and the US despite that Canada added no new tariffs on them.

I am a bit worried about Arri suing me 🙂 Might have to be a secret release

Europe should not be affected by the US tariffs, however list price(DC-S1 Mark II) here is €3.499 regardless.

maybe this week after all 😉 best

Are these prices reflecting Tariffs?

Thanks, I see now.

Sticking with my pair of S5ii’s (both purchased used) and single S9. To be fair, the S1Rii and the S1ii bodies are better than the S5ii but neither have anything that makes me want to switch from what I have. 5.1k 60p open gate? Quite nice, but also not enough to warrant any changes in my lineup. Pricing not quite as bad as reported and will drop quite quickly. I get the S1ii model but the E model baffles me a bit as surely anyone who wants one will buy the S1ii but if not, the S5ii/x? As for the lens, good there is something being offered that is not an f8 shitbox of a lens, but not something I am interested in personally.

Nikon now can do the funniest firmware update in history of hybrid mirrorless industry.

That's a nice job the lady in the video has, shooting scientific documentaries and wildlife. Wouldn't mind doing that myself...

What a mess. And the Z6 III has been out for about a year already. A dollar short and a day late. The marketing agency working for Panasonic in the UK by the way, emailed me the wrong prices. Indeed, they emailed EVERYONE completely the wrong prices. I had to let them know, and then got a correction a few hours later.

So then which of the 5 of the 24 megapixel bodies are you guys going to choose... The S1 II, S1 IIe, S5X, S5 II or S9? The price of the S1 II is $600 more than the nearest competitors from Canon and Nikon, which is just absolutely deranged. May as well get the S1R II instead? And the S1 IIe cannibalises both the S5X and S5 II, which may as well now be dead. It's one of the worst examples of product planning I've ever witnessed in the camera industry.

Some other bits gleaned from watching a few reviews: 4kp120 is at 1.17x crop, not full sensor width (from the Petapixel review) Autofocus is... still not quite Canon/Sony level (from the Media Division review) Dynamic range, especially with DRO on, looks very nice (from the MD review)

It actually looks almost perfect for me (being a Lumix user). I think I'll stick with my 2 S5iis until the S1ii is on offer next year. Then I'll probably sell a S5ii and the Sigma 28-70 and get a S1ii and 24-60 combo.

Part of the problem is that the difference in prices is enough that the impatient might just decide to ditch their Lumix gear and buy Nikon. "You can have the same sensor, but with worse RS and a little more DR, and btw, it costs almost 2x as much" is not the selling point that one might think.

As expected Lumix S1 II uses the same sensor as Nikon Z6 III. Panasonic apparently managed to improve on Nikon Z6 III Achilles heel - 1 stop of lower dynamic range in ISOs under 800. Lumix S1 II has DR above 12 stops at the expense of slightly slower rolling shutter. That's a good decision and achievement. We can always go to APS-C mode and have really fast 6ms rolling shutter. Price in Europe is 3500 Euro as rumors suggested. I think this is a good strategy from Panasonic. Sell to the more impatient at higher price, then as time passes prices will go down. Nikon Z6 III started at more than 2600 Euro, now can be purchased brand new for 2000 Euro. Lumix S1 II is a true hybrid but more on the video side.

There's no chance I'll get one, but I don't think the S1II is that bad. Price is too high, but as I said a few pages ago, tariff disruptions drive all prices up. I'm curious whether the S1IIE uses the sensor from the S1 or from the S1II. It's quite a bit cheaper. Newsshooter says "partially stacked" for the S1IIE, and it has 4k120, so I wonder if it's got the faster readout of the S1II. If so, that's a decent discount for losing 5.1k60, raw, and DR boost, non of which I really care about, while (maybe?) keeping the features I like: faster readout, full size HDMI, 32 bit XLR adapter, and non-jangly neck trap loops.

From Canada they called a true masterpiece 😉

dpreview's 'review in progress' is up - https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-s1ii-review

No OLPF, tons of moiré and slower readout than the much cheaper Z6iii (with excellent n-raw). Thanks but no thanks.

Out of interest, here is a "6x the price, 6x better?" comparison of the two lenses. I have the cheaper one and it is indeed a great little lens.

Well based on what we have seen or is imminent, it certainly looks that way, because the S1R was one of their 'pro' cameras and that has now been downgraded to what we might call 'prosumer' as in pro features in a more consumer body. Any 'S2H' would need to follow suit or stand alone as a solo flagship as the S1Rii is not going to be replaced for years and years. If ever, depending on the survival of the company. My gut instinct is it's the end of the line. Literally. If these new releases and existing stuff are good enough for your/our needs, then great, but I don't think there is anything more exciting coming in the future. It would need a radical change in; management, strategy, marketing and budget and I just don't see that happening. S9 and S5ii have been and probably will remain 'peak Lumix' for me and as I have stated many times, work very well for me and my needs, but will I still be with anything L Mount in 2026? More than likely not.