ac6000cw Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 hours ago, stefanocps said: i think if i go for alternzative it is x s20, i like fuji, i would change for a more videocamera style device but all the other a part fx30 are not this style Is this meant to be a dedicated video camera or a hybrid for both video & stills? If it's for hybrid video & stills use, the X-S20 is probably better overall because it has a mechanical shutter and a viewfinder. One downside of the Fuji's is they don't support plug-in power for microphones, if that is important to you. The FX30 is electronic shutter only and no viewfinder, but has a cooling fan (better for long recordings) and the E-mount lens choice is huge. At the moment Wex in the UK are selling a new FX30 body for £1879 (with a voucher code) until 31-01-2024 - https://www.wexphotovideo.com/sony-cinema-line-fx30-camera-3069656/ Also, if you are thinking about the S5 ii, note it has a major crop in 4k60p (so it's an APS-C camera in that situation). It's the same situation with most of the other lower-end FF cameras. (If you can live with micro-4/3, a used G9 plus the cheaper/smaller/lighter Pana 12-60mm lens will get you excellent 4k60p and superb stabilization for peanuts - around £700 for both used) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, ac6000cw said: (If you can live with micro-4/3, a used G9 plus the cheaper/smaller/lighter Pana 12-60mm lens will get you excellent 4k60p and superb stabilization for peanuts - around £700 for both used) ...and 4K 30p/25p/24p 4:2:2 10-bit internal recording at 150Mbps H264/AVC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 i use video, not thinking about photo. Panasonic has no good af, so i don't consider it too much fx3o at that price is high for me, as in euro comes like 2400... I have wrote to tdimension and asked for warranty, how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 It might be worth waiting until you can afford the extra money? Or do you need it before then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, stefanocps said: fx3o at that price is high for me, as in euro comes like 2400... What about the much cheaper A6700 (which probably has the same sensor as the FX30 and can do 4k60p and 4k120p, but no fan so overheating may be an issue)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, newfoundmass said: It might be worth waiting until you can afford the extra money? Or do you need it before then? no it is a budget question. i rarely do paid job, do it for my pleasure. so i have a limit for the money i want to invest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, ac6000cw said: What about the much cheaper A6700 (which probably has the same sensor as the FX30 and can do 4k60p and 4k120p, but no fan so overheating may be an issue)? that is the other option together with the x s20.hard choice between these 2 also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, stefanocps said: i use video, not thinking about photo. Panasonic has no good af, so i don't consider it too much fx3o at that price is high for me, as in euro comes like 2400... I have wrote to tdimension and asked for warranty, how it works I think the AF in panasonic S5ii is pretty good, in fact I find it more reliable than it was on Canon R6, and there are some great deals on the S5ii at the moment, I wouldn't discount it because of AF concerns and its video integration is one of the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, ade towell said: I think the AF in panasonic S5ii is pretty good, in fact I find it more reliable than it was on Canon R6, and there are some great deals on the S5ii at the moment, I wouldn't discount it because of AF concerns and its video integration is one of the best Panasonic has one of the best integration for video yes, and this machine has the latest af of panasonic. BuT for what i see camera +lens are well.above 2000 euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 In the UK there are big cash back reductions at the moment S5ii works out at £1299, that's amazing value and there are great deals with lenses included too IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 With the Sigma adaptor Canon EF lenses work great for AF on the S5ii too, opens up lots of possibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, ade towell said: In the UK there are big cash back reductions at the moment S5ii works out at £1299, that's amazing value and there are great deals with lenses included too I suapect that being in italy is really not convenient.buying in uk.exchange rate first, than shipping and custom!thanks brexit 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, stefanocps said: I suapect that being in italy is really not convenient.buying in uk.exchange rate first, than shipping and custom!thanks brexit 😀 What could be a good zoom lens for it?for sony fx30ni would go for 18 105...similar lens for s5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I use the original Canon EF 24-105mm L lens, very cheap and the crop mode on the S5ii is very good if you need more reach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, ade towell said: I use the original Canon EF 24-105mm L lens, very cheap and the crop mode on the S5ii is very good if you need more reach 24 105 ff right?dont rember the calculation...how is apsc equivalent?how much does it cost the sigma adaptor?i also see on amazon second hand package camera+20 60 for a price that i could buy... [but not the 20 60) I had excitement to go finally for 1st time to sony...but may be is even more exciting to go first time to full frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Yes it’s a full frame lens - with crop it’s about 150mm equivalent. I got the Sigma adaptor 2nd hand for £100, I’m not sure but there maybe cheaper ones available now but the Sigma has been 100% reliable. The 20-60mm lens is very good quality for a kit lens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ade towell said: Yes it’s a full frame lens - with crop it’s about 150mm equivalent. I got the Sigma adaptor 2nd hand for £100, I’m not sure but there maybe cheaper ones available now but the Sigma has been 100% reliable. The 20-60mm lens is very good quality for a kit lens But it is short on the long end for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Yes I mainly use it on the 20mm wide end, the 24-105 has a good range and EF 70-200mm F4 L lenses are very cheap used, I have the light and even cheaper EF 75-300mm Nano for longer stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanocps Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 I want to have only 1 lens on my camera to do all.change just very special need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, ac6000cw said: What about the much cheaper A6700 (which probably has the same sensor as the FX30 and can do 4k60p and 4k120p, but no fan so overheating may be an issue)? Hell no! Keep away from the a6000 series of cameras for filmmaking, they just are not as reliable as the FX series and lack all the many filmmaking features of the FX series 4 hours ago, stefanocps said: no it is a budget question. i rarely do paid job, do it for my pleasure. so i have a limit for the money i want to invest then again, if you're not doing it professionally, just go with whatever? So long as you enjoy using it, that's all that matters 6 minutes ago, stefanocps said: I want to have only 1 lens on my camera to do all. Hmmm... maybe a Sony RX10 IV then? Or Sony FDR-AX700 or Sony PXW-Z90V? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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