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13 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Not saying buying a Blackmagic is a bad thing, I've got one myself! Have rented them too. And worked on many many many MANY shoots with BMD cameras. 

But I am saying, that I bet there is a large overlap between Blackmagic camera buyers and buyers of inappropriately cheap media. 

you could be right. it seems odd to me, as i learned a lesson quite some time ago about cheap media with a different camera. I preordered the p4k and it took about 5 months for mine to arrive. Which probably gave me additional time to research things abit. So i had a samsung t5 before the p4k arrived.

When purchasing a camera surely you'd also look at media requirements ?

Having said that i did still stick some other cards in it to see what i could get away with.  I guess there's always a tendency for people  to cheap out, if you already have some media.

I learned on lower setting some of my cards would work but not at the higher quality. I have yet to try it but i suspect i could also use a cheaper card if i set the p4k to use the timelapse setting of saving a frame out of tenth frame of so. Although using a cheaper card just for a timelapse is kind of  a unique option i think. There could be some merit in using a cheaper card, depending on your situation and budget. it may even be advantageous running one card for timelapsing and a t5 for video. however timelapse is a very small field of people i think and  thats about the only aspect that comes to mind where it would be practical, for me anyway.

47 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

People who cheap out and buy a Blackmagic camera are also the same people who cheap out on their media...

ease up ironfilms....  a cheap cine camera is not necessarily a bad thing.

in my defense... it was purely for the advancement of scientific knowledge. i already had a t5 before i got my p4k but i wanted to see what i could get away with.

to reiterate, buy approved media save the headaches. 

p4k + samsung t5's 

there's an approved list of cards for cameras here at the bmd forum

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95785#p531283

you can use cheaper cards at some frame rates and quality levels. it tends to be an exercise in frustration figuring what you can get away with. Mind you that was with a p4k The 6k pro probably has higher minimum requirements.

nice work persevering @kye, I kinda lent the other way. Lashed out on the gopro 9 yesterday. I figure its a decent upgrade over the 6 i have. I have some plans for it, not as extreme as yours however. i'll post something later 

9 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

Well I was canon, sigma or tamron. I would def release non metal versions at least and call it the TRAVEL version, same optics, same performance, a third of their weight. Could be that they are not weatherproof, but honestly I dont care because if there is a storm my ass is indoors anyhow. 

i have some m42 lenses from yesteryear. I actually don't like thinking about how old they are as i can relate to that age. Still they work flawlessly, not sure if these modern plastic lenses will give the same longevity.   

i have about 7 or 8 vintage pentax m42, i doubt that i could call any of them clinical. I would  have to say my latest purchase an olympus 12mm f2 would probably be my most " clinical " or modern corrected lens.

Optically i guess my pentax m42 300mm f4 produces a fair amount of purple fringing. With a bit of work, that can be removed or reduced in post for photos.

My interpretation on bad rendering for me,  would be swirly bokeh. Some people go out of their way to purchase lenses that give that look, i just don't find it appealing. As far as i'm aware swirly bokeh seems mostly used for photography.

Which makes me wonder if any of the forum members have shot footage specifically with swirly bokeh in mind ? bit curious about that.

However i dont have an issue with either donut highlights from a mirror lens or oval bokeh / flares from anamorphics, so go figure. 

spammer.  dont bother

On sunday my brother and i got out to a place called coolmunda dam, about an hour from where i live. A rather large man made impoundment. However at the moment its quite low. Arrived just before sunset, ended up driving the whole way around it looking for a suitable place to shoot some photos and drone video. I used the olympus e-m10 and the 12mm f2 lens. All in all i was quite impressed with the 12 mm. Only problem was the battery wasn't fully charged as i thought, plus i took raw and jpg's which probably didn't help. It was however helpful when i dragged both into resolve and made timelapses out of them. It was quite obvious the differences. 

There's a 3 second sunset video linked below if your bored and got some spare time.  for For an auto lens there's not much aperture flicker not as much as i thought anyway. Sadly the battery died before the sun set with some nice colour. Had to download olympus viewer 3 an then adobe dng converter and then straight into resolve. Might have been able to go straight to dng converter but i wanted the Olympus software and codecs installed anyway. 

found that Pergear 10mm for sale  on ebay while looking at olympus 9mm lenses

retail wise its probably close to $50  cheaper than most of the olympus 9mm body cap lenses.  its supposed to have three  ed glass elements Never heard of these guys before however. might google it later while i have the cat at the vets, getting his shots.

F8 Pancake Fisheye lens For APS-C-format M4/3-Mount Mirrorless Cameras

1.【M4/3-Mount Lens/M43 Format 15mm (35mm Equivalent)】： excellent for portrait, landscape, and humanity photograph.
2.【5 Elements in 4 Groups】: Its optical system consists of 5 elements in 4 groups. Aperture range: F8
3.【3 Extra-low Dispersion】:Improve contrast and color rendering in a variety of lighting conditions. 
4.【Extremely Slim Body Cap Profile】:Metal body, only weight 0.14lb/61.3g. 
5.【Manual Focus Lever】:with the focal length scale and smooth focal lever. After a short term learning, it’s very easy to focus what you want and feel the unique charm of the manual lens, and lets you more concentrate on the image itself. 

campatible List: GX1、GX7、GX8、GX85、GX9、GH3、GH4、GH5、G7、G9、EP5、EM1、EM1II、EM1III、EM1X、EM5、EM5II、EM5III、EM10、EM10II、EM10III、PEN-FGX1、GX7、GX8、GX85、GX9、GH3、GH4、GH5、G7、G9、EP5、EM1、EM1II、EM1III、EM1X、EM5、EM5II、EM5III、EM10、EM10II、EM10III、PEN-F

Specifications：
Type:10mm F8
Lens construction:5 elements in 4 groups
Focal length: f=10mm
35mm format equivalent: 20
Angle of view: 150°
Max. aperture: F8
Min. aperture: F8
Focus range: Approx. 30cm/0.98ft - ∞
External dimensions: ø55mm x10mm
Weight : Approx.70g（Z-mount Approx.90g)

Pancake Fisheye lens 
Is designed for M4/3-Mount APS-C-format mirrorless cameras and offers an 15mm equivalent focal length.

3 Extra-low Dispersion elements
Improve contrast and color rendering in a variety of lighting conditions. 

Extremely Slim Body Cap Profile
Metal body, only weight 0.18lb/80g. Anodizing coloring design, which enhances the lens anti-corrosion, an-dirt functions, and its varnish not easy to removed.

Manual focus lever
After a short term learning, it’s very easy to focus what you want and feel the unique charm of the manual lens, and lets you more concentrate on the image itself.

22 hours ago, kye said:

iv'e also discovered that the 15mm F8 is really only a daytime lens, and maybe only an outside lens, on the GF3.  Once the GF3 hits 360 shutter and has to ratchet the ISO up, its image falls apart big time.

i nearly bought a 9mm bodycap lens today $75 aus, new as well. I'm gonna sleep on it and probably buy it tomorrow if its still available. Personally I like the idea of some aspherical glass elements to help things along. Since i didn't mind the look from the 15mm, the 9mm should fit right in.

Also not surprised you found the 15mm to be daylight limited, Kind of similar to the canon f8 mirror lens, kinda like for special circumstances i would venture 😉

Some footage from me stalking the sheep, shows my ninja walk isn't very ninjaish, more practice I expect. Next project is under way.

Seen someone here on the forums mount a camera to the pole and I thought that might give some interesting angles.  I think I have pretty much all I need to complete it. I have the L shaped alloy to mount the crane m2 gimbal, as it has two 1/4 tripods sockets one on the side and one on the bottom. That should give me a secure grip on the gimbal. 

Took the new 12 mm lens and gimbal up to the local lookout. The 12mm seems to balance nicely on the little m2 gimbal. Quite happy with how it's all working out. 

Hmm an issue uploading images

Picked the the olympus 12mm f2 on Friday arvo. Took some photos similar to the previous 15mm bodycap lens photos I had taken. The first is the 15mm f8 the second the 12mm f2. Not the same flower of course but it should provide for some comparisons. I had it set up for a time-lapse tonight. However a shower  of rain  prompted a quick recovery. 

I work in a factory running cnc machines and lately a waterjet. I dabble in video for a hobby.  I got laid off, not long after covid hit here in aus and nearly everything got shut down. Spent about six- eight months off work. Ended up withdrawing 20k out of my super, as allowed by the government at the time. Paid the mortgage off and bought a 3 year old Mitsubishi outlander.

Some might say I haven't had it too tough, and I can't say that I blame them for thinking that.

Here in Australia we haven't experienced the death rates in other countries. Whether that's due to the government initiatives or a smaller population more spread out or dumb luck, I couldn't tell. But I am however grateful as I have some rare bug called sarcoidosis which would probably not play well with covid, if I were to catch it. While covid hasn't had the same impact here mortality wise, financially it's probably  near crippled a lot of people, families, government. 

Long time ago I remember a saying ask not what your country can do for you, but rather, what can you do for your country.  Personally I think it might the time to focus a bit less on myself and some more on where I can help others,and maybe video something along the way.

Mostly weight constraints,camera is about 400 grams. With the little crane m2 gimbal. It maxes out at 720 grams or so. Which allows me 310 grams or slightly more for a lens. The flip side is being mft the olympus lens should work on the p4k as well. I did try some laowa rectilinear lenses in store however the weight was a deal breaker  for me at this point. 

I looked at the olympus site last week was surprised  that they still have mirror lenses listed for sale. For my purposes,  I think only the bodycap lenses and the 12mm, 17mm and 25mm would work on the gimbal I bought. If I lean in any direction it will probably be those three, time will tell however

On 2/15/2021 at 7:45 PM, kye said:

I'm seeing a blur of about 2 pixels on the RAW 4K images, and most lenses don't get much sharper than that, especially for the USD$47 this cost me, brand new:

 

thats almost like stealing it. let me know if you find  a 9 mm bodycap lens at the same price. we could do a group buy 🤔

47 minutes ago, kye said:

 

By that logic my dining table is also a boat table, because:

 

You haven't even rigged it up at all. That's disappointing very disappointing. Not to mention not a life jacket in sight.

Actually ended up buying the olympus 12mm f2. Gave it a bit of a test  run in the shop, poked it out the window took a few shots. Looking forward to picking it up in a week or two. I think it weighs about 130 grams so still inside the weight constraints. 

2 hours ago, noone said:

Yes, there is no vignetting with M43 (as it was intended).

It is a much better "lens" than it should be though I would not want to use it for anything but fun!

Have you noticed it actually has THREE settings yet?    When you open the lever to infinity, there is another setting "click stop" just next to that and then at the other end for 0.3m/0.98ft

i noticed it, but hadn't given it much thought as i was mostly trying to keep the flowers to around 300mm away. It usually lives on the camera, as it takes up no room and weighs next to nothing. Considering how thin that lens is its hard to imagine them stuffing too many optics in there, but your right it does a better job than one would expect.

i confess up front i like flowers...

m10 mark ii with the 15mm body cap lens between wind gusts this afternoon. I thought the 15mm did pretty well. i have the focus peaking set to the fn3 button. The 15mm has a little lever that allows for some control between 300mm and infinity combined with the peaking on the olympus, it allows for a small measure of control. Apart from resizing the jpegs are straight from the camera. 

not much vignetting either i think maybe noone was full frame ?

I personally kinda feel its getting a bit trollish to drag comments/ jokes from one thread to another unrelated thread. I'm sure no real intent was meant. But like workplace accidents,  jokes can go horribly wrong pretty quick as well.

Its usually me thats ringing for the ambo's. I'm all for safety, but the issue can be getting other people to think in the first place.

getting back on topic i have a couple of photos with the gimbal and 15mm olympus body cap lens, cant quite get the olympus and the 15mm lens far enough forward to balance properly, however i can get it to balance with the takumar 24mm and a light adapter. I'd take some footage but its horribly windy here today.  

7 hours ago, kye said:

 

I don't yet own a glass balcony clamp, but buying one will just add to the enjoyment of easing lockdowns and being able to actually go, well, anywhere.

i read this and thought bloody hell, he's taken up abseiling or not paying for his accommodation  😉

remember try not to feed the trolls 😛

btw i liked your sunset