newfoundmass

$5500 for a Canon cine camera isn't high. Yes, you're paying the Canon tax, and yes there are cameras out there with better specs and for less, but there is a large group of folks that won't leave Canon and this is an incredibly enticing camera to get people to enter their cine lineup that haven't already.

I agree, the C70 looks very good and is decently priced for Canon. I think it will be a smash success, though I still can't in good conscience support them until they show they've changed their attitude towards customers.

Blackmagic is one of the smartest companies today. While it feels like everyone else is thinking short term, they're clearly looking at the long game, especially with this release. I have no idea what their finances are like, but if they can maintain this direction they'll have so many advantages over everyone else, given their focus on the entire work flow from start to finish.

DfD in the GH6 won't tell us anything about Panasonic's plans for M43 because DfD is what they're moving forward with in both systems. The auto focus in S35 mode on the S5 looks quite promising/usable. I'm wondering if we'll get even better performance on a smaller sensor, since it requires even less processing? Fingers crossed.

Or at least progress action cameras more than they did. Like, why did it take until last year for someone to finally put a 1 inch sensor in one? Why didn't they attempt to make a more versatile/premium action camera years and years ago? Something in a form factor similar to a point and shoot, but still small and light weight enough to put in tight spaces? Just seems like they decided to coast after things were going good and now are just kinda riding the brand for as long as they can, with minimal effort to improve.

Honestly the GoPro era feels dead. These past couple of releases haven't interested me, both because of how over saturated the action camera market became and because of their yearly release schedule. They've ceased innovating. Yes, the stabilization is incredible, but each iteration is a modest upgrade over the last. While they're focusing on media mods, a company like Insta360 is innovating in much better ways in my opinion. I honestly feel, at this point, most people would be better off buying used or one of the cameras released by DJI or Insta360 instead. Hell, for a lot of people one of those cheaper ones from Yi would be sufficient if your primary use for an action camera is putting it in a tight / risky environment, like me.

Re: Vaio: I think they mostly market them in Japan. I'm guessing this move was months in the making and has little, if anything, to do with JIP's plans, regardless of what they are.

I mean he repeatedly said that he didn't think the GH6 was coming and made that argument quite a bit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don't mean to start an argument, but everything else you've written about the GH6 has been wrong so far, so maybe it's best to just wait and see before being pessimistic some more?

You're simplifying it too much. I've owned both versions of the 12-35 f2.8 for years. If I were to sell both of them right now I'd still be able to get at least 75% of what I paid for them. That value should hold steady for as long as the system is competitive and popular. If the system though looks like it has no future, the value of those lenses will plummet because unlike other glass they aren't easily adaptable. Could I run the cameras and lenses into the ground? Yeah, but it doesn't make sense if I can sell them and instead use them to invest in a system that will stick around. I want M43 to stick around and to thrive, I'd just like concrete assurances from Panasonic that it has a real future for professionals. That's not unreasonable, and I'm unsure why you think it's unnecessary. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I'm a business owner, I don't have the luxury to just worry about shooting. It makes no sense for me, as a business owner, to stay invested in a system that doesn't have a future. My equipment needs to retain some value so that, should the need arise, I can sell it to help pay for upgrades. I want to stay in the M43 system. But I need Panasonic to give me some assurances that they're not going to abandon me. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask.

I cannot fathom Panasonic not releasing a GH6. I think we'd see an underwhelming GH6 released before we see nothing, because there is still money to squeeze out of the M43 user base regardless of what their long term goals are. Whether or not it lives up to expectations, that's the big question I have. Will we see the continuation of the LX100II, G95 and the G100 or will we see the same innovation that drew us to the GH line to begin with? My suspicion is that we'll see the latter, as if their intention was the former it'd be out by now. What is bothering me though is there's no news/rumors. Give us some info to settle our nerves, especially given what happened with Olympus. Assure us video shooters that we're not sitting on thousands of dollars of M43 gear for nothing. I want a solid statement, not corporate speak.

"Solved" or not, this is utterly ridiculous and no one should reward Canon with their business even if these cameras are your ideal tool. Please, reward honest and ethical companies with your business. It is the only way things will get better for all of us.

You can cut a shower curtain or something similar to fit it. There's really limitless ways to diffuse light cheaply. Head down to a dollar store and peak around. You'll find something!

I'm not sure how you'd test this, but I have heard that certain channels, particularly ones with a lot of subscribers, get higher quality encoding and improved audio quality. If true I wonder how much of a bump those channels get?

I appreciated the cagey responses to some of these questions... Me thinks they've got some interesting things cooking!

I have no problem if the GH6 is $2,000 as long as it has the features to justify the price tag. If Panasonic ignores/abandons their loyal M43 user base, particularly those of us in the enthusiast and professional community, I would also likely end up with Sony or Fuji, instead of their full frame offerings, out of principle alone. I couldn't justify supporting a company that abandoned me; I see people that stick by Canon no matter what and that will never be me.

The A7siii is $1,500 more. The S5 is going after the same market as the A7iii

After watching Max's AF test... The auto focus in full frame is your typical Panasonic AF, but the auto focus in APS-C is actually pretty good. It actually was quicker than the A7 III in some scenarios. It seems to be a processing issue in FF, since it's working harder. The mini HDMI and recording limits though are deal breakers for me.

I highly recommend the 7-14 f2.8. The only complaint I have is you can't put on a filter. But for real estate and landscape it's incredible.

I see a difference between segmentation and crippling. Both can be frustrating, but segmentation can be fine as long as it's not abused. Panasonic has always done a good job, I think, when it comes to segmentation. That 2016-2018 period specifically saw a variety of options, at a bunch of reasonable price points. The G85, which is still a very good camera even today, was fairly priced, and was a great value for the time with excellent features. If you needed more control, etc. you could spend more and get the GH5, but you were still capable of doing maybe 80% of what the GH5 could do with the G85. While some would argue the GH5 was priced too high, especially once the A7iii was released, those features the GH5 had were unmatched at that price point.

I'm in agreement that the GH6 needs to continue leading the way to remain relevant, and one way is through progressive features that Sony and Canon might be able to match, but will be very hesitant to do because of how protective they are of their cinema lines. Making the GH6 into a true M43 powerhouse would likely not affect their full frame and cinema camera plans too much, and might even help by being credible b or c cameras for them. Given the trends though, I don't think releasing a forward thinking and powerful M43 camera would negatively impact those because, simply put, there are going to be people that just won't entertain using a M43 camera no matter the features. Fuck em, I say, and reward those loyal M43 shooters and those that aren't opposed to "downgrading" with something really special and forward thinking. We don't just need higher resolution. Functionality is what's most important. Wanna give us 6K? Fine, but don't just give us a 6K version of the GH6. Woo us like you did with the GH4 and the GH5. Exceed our expectations in the functionality department.

That's kinda what I mean though when I say that most of us don't really see the full benefits of 4K when it comes to regular viewing. I think my viewing distance is a pretty common distance for most people that have TVs in their living rooms and bedrooms. I don't really know anyone that sits, say, 5 feet away from their TV. It's not really practical in most homes, unless you live in a really cramped apartment or something. I'd have to have my sofa (or TV) set up in the middle of my living room to do that!

It's funny because I see very little difference on my 55 inch TV sitting about 10 feet away. Only when I'm within 2 or so feet do I see significant differences, even when factoring in just bit rate. If I'm looking on a monitor up close, I can definitely see a difference, but when I'm doing casual viewing? Not so much.

I don't have it myself but I've heard very good things about the Portkeys monitors, since they can control most cameras (start and stop recording) and can apparently completely control all Z-Cam features and menus on them.