BTM_Pix

Excellent!
If you get a runaway recording, let me know the combination and I'll get on to it with a G7.
 

Yes those would be expected to fail at the moment.
There is some combination of video quality switch that puts the camera into an interesting runaway recording mode that could do with some structured testing if you have the inclination?
It basically needs testing in the following way
1) Put the camera into a 'legal' mode such as 4K25p
2) Use that html file to switch to the first mode in its list
3) Observe the return from the camera in the browser
4) If it says OK then press record on the camera and then stop again.
If you get a runaway recording that needs the battery pulling then repeat from the starting point which combination it was.
Unfortunately, to be comprehensive this test needs to be repeated for every single format in that html file.
And then ALL of that repeated with the starting point in step 1 being the next 'legal' format (ie 4K24p).
And then ALL of the ALL being repeated with it being in AVCHD mode and all its legal formats.
Because selecting a non-AVCHD format being sent to it causes it to change mode automatically, you still need to do all of the non-AVCHD modes and vice versa as it might well be this entire switching of mode that triggers something interesting.
That is a LOT of tests with not anywhere near approaching a guarantee of it working.
But its exactly this sort of structured matrix of tests that needs doing if everyone wants to chase this down. Stumbling upon it is fine - and shows that maybe there is something there - but it needs to be repeatable to move forward and also exhaustive in case there is a combination that takes this from 'interesting' to 'usable'.
Because of the extent of the testing needed, my advice would be to split it up amongst interested parties so someone takes the 4K25p starting point, someone else takes the 4K24p starting point etc
 
 

I'm ready to test with 4K25p.
If no one can verify the 4K24p, I'm ready to take after 4K25p

Hi all! 
Thanks for the work you've done! Ready to participate in all tests
My camera G7, I am use this html file DEPLOY VIDEO QUALITY.html and my camera for video quality returns err_parm by all link.
VLOG G - err_parm;
VLOG Gamma - place standart profile;
VLOG L - err_parm.
Cinelike D/V normal switch. 
I also attach my file "Options available" dump_G7.xml  

Thank you for this!!!
I believe I found a better workaround for using the C1,C2,C3 custom functions, where you can:
- Save the CineD for use as an actual profile and
- Switch to other profiles normally
I was able to save the CineD profile into the custom slot by clicking the Disp.Save button while in the profile change window. This saved the profile as Custom and allows me to switch profiles now, but at same time I can still go back to CineD by going to the slot where Custom used to be, it still appears as Blank with Custom misaligned to the very left top on the screen :D
See the pic  and check out the video I attached too.

20170607_033823_1.mp4

If you could find a GH4 that hasn't been upgraded then what I would be tempted to try is do the initial octopus boot up sequence and then go to the ROM backup menu that appears when you do this and do the backup to SD function.
Then get your updated GH4 and do the same and back its ROM up to SD.
These are plain text files though ideally you would open them both in a hex editor and do a compare between the old one and your upgraded one.
There might be a clue in there as to how you could do something that would allow the old firmware to be put on the GH4 with the newer one.....
Please note that I'm not in any way telling you to be brave and just go into the ROM backup menu and then load the file from the older version onto the GH4.
Its precisely the sort of reckless thing I would do of course

This could get messy

This could get messy

This could get messy

Seeing as this hack was about combining features from other cameras by harvesting commands, its quite apt to see it being used to shoot combine harvesters !

This could get messy

OK
So for anyone wanting to try this, I have made a really simple method to do it.
I have tested this numerous times on my GX80 and it has lived to tell the tale but obviously do this at your own risk.
All that this process does is fool the camera into thinking its talking to the smartphone app and then the commands it sends are exactly what the smartphone app sends. Or would do if the smartphone app thought it was talking to a camera equipped with Cinelike D !
So as such it is only getting sent what the Panasonic app would be sending to it so there are no hacky or sneaky debug things getting sent to it. 
Again, though, proceed at your own risk.
Although I would say, if you’ve tried that region switching hack on YouTube with the 10 million key press combos during power up then you’re already brave enough to try this!
Bear in mind that my unit is a GX80 and the firmware is version 1.0
If you have a GX85 or have got a different firmware then I just don’t know because obviously I haven’t got any other devices to test it on.
 
Here we go then….
Follow these instructions exactly and you should have Cinelike D on your GX80/85
You will need a laptop or a phone with a browser, the camera and to download the simple html file attached.
 
1) Switch on camera and turn on wifi as though you were connecting the app and you should see the waiting screen on the camera
2) Load the Deploy Cinelike D.html file into your browser
3) Select ‘Handshake’ 
4) You should see the browser page change and it confirm that its connected to a GX80
5) Hit the back key on the browser
6) Select ‘Connect’
7) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera give you an ‘Under Remote Control’ message
8) Wait until the camera screen shows you a live view
9) Hit the back key on the browser
10) Select ‘Deploy’
11) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera should NOT now be displaying the Photo Style you had selected (i.e. Standard, Vivid etc) 
12) Cinelike D is now active on the camera
13) If you go into the menu on the camera and select Photo Style you will see that it is blank and you can’t navigate to other Photo Styles such as Standard etc. 
14) To restore the Photo Styles hit the back button on the browser and select ‘Restore’ and the camera will display the Standard photo style and you should then be able to go into Photo Styles and change them.
15) Repeat 9-14 to switch between them to your hearts content!
 
So, like other settings, the Cinelike D profile will persist when you switch the camera off so if you want to use the other Photo Styles again then you MUST go this process again to re-enable them.
However, if you would like to switch between them without using this method again (and who wouldn’t) here is a neat way round it.
When you’ve done Step 12 and got Cinelike D on, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and save these into C1 of the custom settings.
Then go to Step 14 and use the ‘Restore’ to get your standard Photo Styles back, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and then save these into C2 of the custom settings.
Now when you switch the camera on, you simply choose C1 to have Cinelike D or C2 for the standard Photo Styles and forget about using any nonsense about using browsers and wifi connections!
 
In couple of weeks I’m hoping to show you how you can do stuff like this and some other useful bits and pieces from a little hardware gadget that will work on the Panasonic cameras but have fun with this in the meantime.
DEPLOY CINELIKE D.html

I think I must've meant 18-200 
So we can downgrade that to merely massive and very very expensive!  
I did actually have some rational basis for how that could be achieved but I'm fucked if I can remember what it is now.
 

Seeing as this hack was about combining features from other cameras by harvesting commands, its quite apt to see it being used to shoot combine harvesters !

OK
So for anyone wanting to try this, I have made a really simple method to do it.
I have tested this numerous times on my GX80 and it has lived to tell the tale but obviously do this at your own risk.
All that this process does is fool the camera into thinking its talking to the smartphone app and then the commands it sends are exactly what the smartphone app sends. Or would do if the smartphone app thought it was talking to a camera equipped with Cinelike D !
So as such it is only getting sent what the Panasonic app would be sending to it so there are no hacky or sneaky debug things getting sent to it. 
Again, though, proceed at your own risk.
Although I would say, if you’ve tried that region switching hack on YouTube with the 10 million key press combos during power up then you’re already brave enough to try this!
Bear in mind that my unit is a GX80 and the firmware is version 1.0
If you have a GX85 or have got a different firmware then I just don’t know because obviously I haven’t got any other devices to test it on.
 
Here we go then….
Follow these instructions exactly and you should have Cinelike D on your GX80/85
You will need a laptop or a phone with a browser, the camera and to download the simple html file attached.
 
1) Switch on camera and turn on wifi as though you were connecting the app and you should see the waiting screen on the camera
2) Load the Deploy Cinelike D.html file into your browser
3) Select ‘Handshake’ 
4) You should see the browser page change and it confirm that its connected to a GX80
5) Hit the back key on the browser
6) Select ‘Connect’
7) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera give you an ‘Under Remote Control’ message
8) Wait until the camera screen shows you a live view
9) Hit the back key on the browser
10) Select ‘Deploy’
11) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera should NOT now be displaying the Photo Style you had selected (i.e. Standard, Vivid etc) 
12) Cinelike D is now active on the camera
13) If you go into the menu on the camera and select Photo Style you will see that it is blank and you can’t navigate to other Photo Styles such as Standard etc. 
14) To restore the Photo Styles hit the back button on the browser and select ‘Restore’ and the camera will display the Standard photo style and you should then be able to go into Photo Styles and change them.
15) Repeat 9-14 to switch between them to your hearts content!
 
So, like other settings, the Cinelike D profile will persist when you switch the camera off so if you want to use the other Photo Styles again then you MUST go this process again to re-enable them.
However, if you would like to switch between them without using this method again (and who wouldn’t) here is a neat way round it.
When you’ve done Step 12 and got Cinelike D on, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and save these into C1 of the custom settings.
Then go to Step 14 and use the ‘Restore’ to get your standard Photo Styles back, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and then save these into C2 of the custom settings.
Now when you switch the camera on, you simply choose C1 to have Cinelike D or C2 for the standard Photo Styles and forget about using any nonsense about using browsers and wifi connections!
 
In couple of weeks I’m hoping to show you how you can do stuff like this and some other useful bits and pieces from a little hardware gadget that will work on the Panasonic cameras but have fun with this in the meantime.
DEPLOY CINELIKE D.html

Yes, its an absolute value so you have to change it to a specific figure rather than just having a plus or minus button that you can hit.
And yes with it being a hidden function it won't show up on the camera screen to be edited.
Well, my forthcoming gadget will be able to do that way of course ...........

Here it is used on GX80 cinelike D,  GH5 (12-35) - wide angle, slow motion (cinelike D) , GX80 - Longer lens (pan 42.5 1,7 ) cinelike D 
 
GX80 shot - 0:34 , 1:16 ,  1:43 , 1:46 , 1:59 , 2:11 , 2:13 ,  2:16 , 2:21 , 2:42 , 2:44 , 2:45 , 3:15 ,  3:17 , 3:19 , 3:23 , 4:32 , 4:44
all shot on GX80 is handheld ,one hand, the other hand holds the gimbal with GH5 :-)

Works with my GX80 firmware 1.2!!!
Thanks!!
BTM So is there possibility to alter hue on the fly (like sharpness-contrast etc) or only by altering the number in the command as you say?

It tells the app from the camera which menus to offer to the user. By mimicking the camera side to the app, it might be possible to persuade it to show them but it would only allow the same commands that have been sent directly from the browser to be sent by the app so the end result will be the same if the camera doesn't fancy it. And it would be a lot of work to write something that mimicked the camera as the computer would have to act like a server amongst other things and because of the stay alive heartbeat between the app and the camera it would require effort that I fully expect would only prove what is already known. Which is that if the camera itself doesn't have the recipe or the ingredients to make a cheeseburger it will just not make a cheeseburger however nicely we ask.
Everyone is of course welcome to try that but I'm going to focus in another direction as I firmly believe that using this method will not bring additional formats and if it does then you are into another layer of additional work to create an app to massage the metadata and there will always be the limitation of no in camera playback.
The only nagging thing I have about it that might be worth trying is to set the region using the octopus boot up method to Japan. It is in no way guaranteed or expected but neither is it beyond the bounds of possibility that for its own domestic market, Panasonic may have additional functionality. 
 
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When the cameras return a rejected message rather than an err_parameter it is usually indicative of it not being open for any sort of burger business, cheese or otherwise.
There are usually two scenarios for this.
1) The ImageApp is also running.
2) The camera is in a menu.
And number 3 is likely to be the one that is being seen here which is that it is utterly confused about the burger that you've just asked it to make, has set the kitchen on fire and the order window has been automatically closed by the sprinkler system.
If it could, it would be displaying this image on its rear screen 
 

It tells the app from the camera which menus to offer to the user. By mimicking the camera side to the app, it might be possible to persuade it to show them but it would only allow the same commands that have been sent directly from the browser to be sent by the app so the end result will be the same if the camera doesn't fancy it. And it would be a lot of work to write something that mimicked the camera as the computer would have to act like a server amongst other things and because of the stay alive heartbeat between the app and the camera it would require effort that I fully expect would only prove what is already known. Which is that if the camera itself doesn't have the recipe or the ingredients to make a cheeseburger it will just not make a cheeseburger however nicely we ask.
Everyone is of course welcome to try that but I'm going to focus in another direction as I firmly believe that using this method will not bring additional formats and if it does then you are into another layer of additional work to create an app to massage the metadata and there will always be the limitation of no in camera playback.
The only nagging thing I have about it that might be worth trying is to set the region using the octopus boot up method to Japan. It is in no way guaranteed or expected but neither is it beyond the bounds of possibility that for its own domestic market, Panasonic may have additional functionality. 
 
------------------------------
 
When the cameras return a rejected message rather than an err_parameter it is usually indicative of it not being open for any sort of burger business, cheese or otherwise.
There are usually two scenarios for this.
1) The ImageApp is also running.
2) The camera is in a menu.
And number 3 is likely to be the one that is being seen here which is that it is utterly confused about the burger that you've just asked it to make, has set the kitchen on fire and the order window has been automatically closed by the sprinkler system.
If it could, it would be displaying this image on its rear screen 
 

OK, a bit of an update....
As I'm still in the UK, I was able to go and visit the camera shop where I've bought a bit of kit over the past few years.
Because they know what my day job is they were virtually rushing to get a Sony A9 out of the cabinet as soon as I walked in so were a bit dismayed that all I wanted was to have 10 minutes with an FZ2000!
Anyway, here is the news.
I did a couple of test recordings of the 200mbps HD format so I could have a look at the files and compare them with what is coming out of a G7 when its making the corrupt files. 
I then captured a remote session to look into these MP4(LPCM) modes to see how they were selected from the app.
And then something caught my eye in Cinelike settings which I'll come back to in a bit.
So I ended up walking out with an example high bitrate file and a surreptitious capture of a remote session to look at the commands when selecting it.
And the camera shop ended up with no sale or even a whiff of an interest in the A9. Though they know I'll be back for something at some point!
Now I had the correct command I could be sure that we are sending the right one to the G7 (in this case) but we are still in exactly the same boat regarding the corrupted file. Copying the chunk of the real FZ2000 to it will persuade it QuickTime to play a black file of the correct length and VLC is identifying the codec (so I think I've got the right sector) but won't play it. 
The command is definitely in the "make me a cheeseburger" category as selecting the 200mbps format file will automatically change the camera into the MP4(LPCM) mode so there is no command from within the app to do this as it just happens as a package at the camera end. As the other cameras don't have that option then we are definitely in the territory of just prodding it with a stick to see if there is a fluke combination of formats to switch between that will make it do this combination internally.
The bottom line with that is that I'm going to have to throw it back out there for everyone else to pick up their own sticks and prod their cameras for this one as I need to be getting on with the other thing. And being a bit selfish about this, its a bit of a diminishing return for me effort wise as I'd sooner plug it into a second hand ninja star to get edit ready prores if I was looking to up the HD quality for me. Or actually even chop in my FZ1000 against an FZ2000 if they come down in price a bit as it is a seductive camera with features like that, the NDs and the VLOG option.
///EDIT 
The FZ2000 files are NOT playable in the G7 so I think this might be a big clue as to this hunt ultimately not bearing any fruit
//////
OK, sad part over, what about what caught my eye?
Well, the FZ2000 has an additional control in Cinelike D for shifting the colour tone of the whole image. 
It has a plus and minus control which shifts to violet/magenta and yellow/green respectively. And this is independent of the white balance.
Now, I think that is a very interesting little function that people could be able to manipulate to create some profiles that are more akin to other manufacturers favoured tones?
And when I say that the FZ2000 has got that Hue function, what I of course mean is that now we've all got it
Big caveat here is that I have only tried this on the G7 as thats all that I've got to hand at the moment but it should work on the others too but please test it and let everyone know if it does or not for your camera.
Updated html file attached to enable it and I've used values that will get it going for you but please make your own experiments by just editing the last number in the command to shift it in the direction you want. I have no idea what the range is so I've set it at 5 either way so you can see the effect but tweak away until you find the end points! 
Enjoy and please report back if it works for your camera so everyone can share the results.
 
DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V WITH HUE.html

OK, a bit of an update....
As I'm still in the UK, I was able to go and visit the camera shop where I've bought a bit of kit over the past few years.
Because they know what my day job is they were virtually rushing to get a Sony A9 out of the cabinet as soon as I walked in so were a bit dismayed that all I wanted was to have 10 minutes with an FZ2000!
Anyway, here is the news.
I did a couple of test recordings of the 200mbps HD format so I could have a look at the files and compare them with what is coming out of a G7 when its making the corrupt files. 
I then captured a remote session to look into these MP4(LPCM) modes to see how they were selected from the app.
And then something caught my eye in Cinelike settings which I'll come back to in a bit.
So I ended up walking out with an example high bitrate file and a surreptitious capture of a remote session to look at the commands when selecting it.
And the camera shop ended up with no sale or even a whiff of an interest in the A9. Though they know I'll be back for something at some point!
Now I had the correct command I could be sure that we are sending the right one to the G7 (in this case) but we are still in exactly the same boat regarding the corrupted file. Copying the chunk of the real FZ2000 to it will persuade it QuickTime to play a black file of the correct length and VLC is identifying the codec (so I think I've got the right sector) but won't play it. 
The command is definitely in the "make me a cheeseburger" category as selecting the 200mbps format file will automatically change the camera into the MP4(LPCM) mode so there is no command from within the app to do this as it just happens as a package at the camera end. As the other cameras don't have that option then we are definitely in the territory of just prodding it with a stick to see if there is a fluke combination of formats to switch between that will make it do this combination internally.
The bottom line with that is that I'm going to have to throw it back out there for everyone else to pick up their own sticks and prod their cameras for this one as I need to be getting on with the other thing. And being a bit selfish about this, its a bit of a diminishing return for me effort wise as I'd sooner plug it into a second hand ninja star to get edit ready prores if I was looking to up the HD quality for me. Or actually even chop in my FZ1000 against an FZ2000 if they come down in price a bit as it is a seductive camera with features like that, the NDs and the VLOG option.
///EDIT 
The FZ2000 files are NOT playable in the G7 so I think this might be a big clue as to this hunt ultimately not bearing any fruit
//////
OK, sad part over, what about what caught my eye?
Well, the FZ2000 has an additional control in Cinelike D for shifting the colour tone of the whole image. 
It has a plus and minus control which shifts to violet/magenta and yellow/green respectively. And this is independent of the white balance.
Now, I think that is a very interesting little function that people could be able to manipulate to create some profiles that are more akin to other manufacturers favoured tones?
And when I say that the FZ2000 has got that Hue function, what I of course mean is that now we've all got it
Big caveat here is that I have only tried this on the G7 as thats all that I've got to hand at the moment but it should work on the others too but please test it and let everyone know if it does or not for your camera.
Updated html file attached to enable it and I've used values that will get it going for you but please make your own experiments by just editing the last number in the command to shift it in the direction you want. I have no idea what the range is so I've set it at 5 either way so you can see the effect but tweak away until you find the end points! 
Enjoy and please report back if it works for your camera so everyone can share the results.
 
DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V WITH HUE.html

I think you've done the right thing irrespective of the specs.
If you've lost your mojo a bit for getting out and shooting then if something different gives you a bit of impetus to re-ignite that (if only to show that its not a mad decision as lot of people on here seem to think it is  ) then its worth it. I'm not saying you have but just a guess and apologies if its out of line.
It'll make great images anyway, they all do these days but only if we get out there and do it.
And if this aids that process then job done and purchase justified as far as I'm concerned.

? I wonder if that would work ? 
Seriously cool little cam though. When the FZ5000 comes out with 5-axis and the GH5's 10bit, I will definitely buy one for $1200 and if that doesn't happen I'll pick up the 2500 for $600 brand new. 
Another great aspect to the FZ2500 is the implementation of shutter angle. A lot of times I just shot Shutter Priority at 180 Shutter, used the NDs to trick the aperture wide open if I wanted it wide open then with the Q menu, I could easily switch between 24p or 60p 200mbps all-i. I think I did one test in 4K and felt the gain in resolution was minimal.
I always went handheld with a strap. The OIS isn't perfect but it sure as hell isnt bad. If I wasn't so lazy, the OIS and my Sirui monopod would have worked great together. I was going to bring out my slider to see just how "cinematic" I could get her to look, but... yeah... laziness. 

OK, a bit of an update....
As I'm still in the UK, I was able to go and visit the camera shop where I've bought a bit of kit over the past few years.
Because they know what my day job is they were virtually rushing to get a Sony A9 out of the cabinet as soon as I walked in so were a bit dismayed that all I wanted was to have 10 minutes with an FZ2000!
Anyway, here is the news.
I did a couple of test recordings of the 200mbps HD format so I could have a look at the files and compare them with what is coming out of a G7 when its making the corrupt files. 
I then captured a remote session to look into these MP4(LPCM) modes to see how they were selected from the app.
And then something caught my eye in Cinelike settings which I'll come back to in a bit.
So I ended up walking out with an example high bitrate file and a surreptitious capture of a remote session to look at the commands when selecting it.
And the camera shop ended up with no sale or even a whiff of an interest in the A9. Though they know I'll be back for something at some point!
Now I had the correct command I could be sure that we are sending the right one to the G7 (in this case) but we are still in exactly the same boat regarding the corrupted file. Copying the chunk of the real FZ2000 to it will persuade it QuickTime to play a black file of the correct length and VLC is identifying the codec (so I think I've got the right sector) but won't play it. 
The command is definitely in the "make me a cheeseburger" category as selecting the 200mbps format file will automatically change the camera into the MP4(LPCM) mode so there is no command from within the app to do this as it just happens as a package at the camera end. As the other cameras don't have that option then we are definitely in the territory of just prodding it with a stick to see if there is a fluke combination of formats to switch between that will make it do this combination internally.
The bottom line with that is that I'm going to have to throw it back out there for everyone else to pick up their own sticks and prod their cameras for this one as I need to be getting on with the other thing. And being a bit selfish about this, its a bit of a diminishing return for me effort wise as I'd sooner plug it into a second hand ninja star to get edit ready prores if I was looking to up the HD quality for me. Or actually even chop in my FZ1000 against an FZ2000 if they come down in price a bit as it is a seductive camera with features like that, the NDs and the VLOG option.
///EDIT 
The FZ2000 files are NOT playable in the G7 so I think this might be a big clue as to this hunt ultimately not bearing any fruit
//////
OK, sad part over, what about what caught my eye?
Well, the FZ2000 has an additional control in Cinelike D for shifting the colour tone of the whole image. 
It has a plus and minus control which shifts to violet/magenta and yellow/green respectively. And this is independent of the white balance.
Now, I think that is a very interesting little function that people could be able to manipulate to create some profiles that are more akin to other manufacturers favoured tones?
And when I say that the FZ2000 has got that Hue function, what I of course mean is that now we've all got it
Big caveat here is that I have only tried this on the G7 as thats all that I've got to hand at the moment but it should work on the others too but please test it and let everyone know if it does or not for your camera.
Updated html file attached to enable it and I've used values that will get it going for you but please make your own experiments by just editing the last number in the command to shift it in the direction you want. I have no idea what the range is so I've set it at 5 either way so you can see the effect but tweak away until you find the end points! 
Enjoy and please report back if it works for your camera so everyone can share the results.
 
DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V WITH HUE.html