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Meike have released some for L mount. Josh Cameron reviewed one I think.

The Lumix 1.8 primes are great, the best I’ve used for video. I’d love the Tamron 20-40 f2.8 on an L mount (or a Sigma equivalent).

I don't get "there aren't any lenses" talk. There are less lenses available than to a Sony shooter but there are plenty of lenses and more are appearing all the time. What lenses do most people really have? A 24-70 f2.8, maybe a wide or tele zoom depending on their work and 2 or 3 primes. You can easily have a decent L mount kit that covers most needs.

Whilst I think many points about Panasonic's marketing and missed opportunities are true I think the bottom line is that they are the best value all rounders combining competitive pricing, excellent ergonomics and features. For years I've been using Lumix cameras for all sorts of work, high end fashion videos, corporate videos, long form recording (hours of conferences and they've never over heated), events (photo and video), weddings (photo and video)...they just work. In the past they had one major compromise, DFD, but even then they had the best EVFs (S1H and S1) and LCDs and other tools that made MF easier than on most cameras. I can have 2 Lumix bodies and lenses for the same price as a Sony and one lens equivalent and then camera is more enjoyable to use (other than AF possibly). That is Lumix's key strength. It's what they should focus and build on.

Lumix really need to get the S1 and S1H replacement right, specs and price. I feel it could be the last roll of the dice for a great brand. If they get is right they can build on the S5mk2's success, if not...💩 Still, they should get me through the next 2-3 years.

I used to really enjoy filming with the Voightlander 17.5mm 0.95 on the GH5. I filmed several weddings without changing the lens and really liked the results.

So you’ve finally decided to move on from Lumix! All Sony or Nikon as well?

Ok, it was the DJi Zenmuse x5. The same set up with a modern PDAF sensor and I’m in!

I thought other manufacturers would follow Blackmagic’s lead with the big screen the put on the Pocket 6K (I think 🤔). Seemed a good idea at the time. I think the fact that these cameras are still based on “photo” cameras is part of the problem.

Wasn’t there a kind of preRonin 4D that was like a bigger Osmo Pocket but with a M43 sensor and interchangeable lenses? That would probably be the sweet spot if it had the latest M43 sensor (or the GH5S sensor).

Good point that BF are not always the only deals. I just bought a second hand but brand new/never used Lowepro bag for 30€. They are over 80€ new. So there are great deals to be had in the second hand market too.

I have taken advantage of some BF deals, A Crucial 2TB SSD with 23% off and a compact pair of cob lights with 20% off. Every year I need more hard drives and it was time to replace my lightweight leds with I've had for years but offer way less light for the size compared to the latest on offer. As my aim is to make everything smaller and lighter I'm happy to change now.

Same here in Spain.

I'm undecided as to whether 6K 30p or 4K 50p (cropped) is best for weddings. 30p to 25p does give a little bit of almost slomo but it's not really the same as 50p slomo. I'm thinking a Lumix GH5 or G9 with a long compact zoom might be a good option for a second or third ceremony camera. I used my "new" GX80 as a third cam this weekend so I'll see how it cuts with the S5mk2 and S5. I was using it as a wide shot but I saw the potential benefits of M43, mainly the lens size which when lugging a lot of gear about is important.

Do tell! 🤔

I could be interested! How much are you looking for it?

I regret not picking up an S9 with the 20-60 that was open box for 1200. Having recently bought a secondhand GX80 with unlimited 4K recording (I used to have one before moving to FF) I have been reminded of the joys of small powerful cameras. I’d love a new GX80 with PDAF etc but meanwhile I’ll keep an eye out for a S9 to go with my S5mk2. I would happy sell my S5 og because I don’t like having to waste time matching the cameras and to lighten my backpack. Has anyone tried the Sigma APSC lenses? The 10-18 and 18-50 for 4K 50p?

If I get the chance I'll pick up an S9 as a B cam to my S5mk2 and sell my S5. I really like having smaller gear! What I'd really like is the S1H to be in an S5mk2 body with the same or improved LCD and EVF of the S1H. I have no desire to go back to an S1 size camera.

I agree that Lumix seems to be wasting an opportunity in the small "pocket" camera market. I think a GX80 successor with the G9's innards with PDAF, mic input and headphone jack would be a real winner, especially with the Realtime Luts. With the tiny lenses M4/3 has it could open a whole new market for Lumix. The GX80 is the only camera i have ever regretted selling. I'm mainly a video guy (professional) but I've just ordered a secondhand GX80 and a couple of tiny primes to try to improve my photography as for me it hits that sweet spot of small size and usability. I had looked at the GX850 but it lacked physical controls. The tiny primes and zooms really should be a strong selling point.

I actually think the S9 now looks pretty interesting. I had considered trading my S5 for a S9 but the recording limits and a few other things put me off. Now I'm reconsidering it again! In fact, if the S9 had the same lens bundles on offer as the S5mk2 then I'd probably go for it. I really like the idea of lightening the gear I carry and a S5mk2 with a S9 seems to make more sense than the S5mk2 and S5 (apart from the spending money bit😆). They have the same PDAF which I now use a lot as well as the punch in to check focus and have the exact same look. Hmmm🤔

I think the problem might actually be ours rather than Lumix's. If we listen to all these ridiculous rumours from the Alpine verandah and other such places then of course we'll be disappointed. It seems there was no hype from Lumix as this was a pretty straight forward announcement. It included a classic Lumix strong point, up dating firmware to existing cameras as well as formally introducing a lens they had said would come. Nothing wrong with that as it seems they never hyped up something big. Still, we really could do with reliable info as to where the Lumix S line is going. They actually have some pretty good You Tubers who use and promote the brand without going overboard. They should start to feed them some solid info.

So when is the announcement happening?

Maybe you are right. The offers here in Spain are very good as well. For example I could pick up a S5mk2 with a Lumix 85 1.8 and a Sigma 16-28 2.8 for 2614€. Incredible value but maybe a sign that all is not well.

I hope that they do announce that the S1H2 will be appearing in 2025 as well a strong hint about the specs, even if tomorrow is really to announce lesser stuff. The Panasonic line up has been the best bang for buck video kit for a number of years. It's versatile, reliable and enjoyable to use. It'd be a real shame if they don't follow up on the success of the S5mk2/X.

A faster 6K sensor would work for me. It’s really useful. If the could push the second dual ISO up to 6400 it might five it that little bit extra it could do with in low light