Simon Young

Being too close to the colour standards on a chart is what got Sony into colour problems in the first place. It was a 100% science based approach when actually colour is also an art.

Fuji said exactly that you daft prick. This is from their site. Time for you to stop trolling about the X-T3, don’t you think?

Wow, you are really passionate about rolling shutter! ?

Fuji said exactly that you daft prick. This is from their site. Time for you to stop trolling about the X-T3, don’t you think?

Fuji never said 17ms, that came from nowhere, the official press release claims rolling shutter has been halved from X-T2/H1.
Also simple math, 60fps is approx 16ms per frame, so rolling shutter cannot exceed that.

Just stop. The Fuji will have a problem with waxy skin at ISO above 800 (not very film like) and the Blackmagic looks lackluster to me, extremely digital looking as you call it, from what I’ve seen. And that tiny sensor won’t make anyone happy shooting above 400 ISO.
I did own the GH5 and would never ever use it above ISO 800. So please show me some of your ISO 5000 footage that looks so spectacular.

A Memento of life looks horrible, but thank God it's a very rough grade, the skin looks almost Sony-green, which is not a compliment. The trailer to your feature looks fine though.

You guys need to understand that shot noise is different from sensor noise. All these new CMOS sensors are very low noise chips, regardless of their area size, so what you see is mostly shot noise, which is revealed in low light situations where randomness of the photons appears as noise, and you can't do much about that other than temporal noise reduction that is better be applied in post. So for comparing two cameras, you have to test them in exactly identical environment, "my footage is cleaner than your footage" is stupid method.

No idea if it is really turned off but in the menu of the d750 you have 4 high iso nr thingys....should be the same in the z6.

Can someone, you or the hack Luke Mason, please back up those claims about the NR being turned off with Eterna or F-log? I haven't seen anything about, neither in the white papers or in the footage. Looks both sharpened and noise reduced to me.
And yes, I did download the prores footage by Blackmagic and graded it in Resolve and you know what, it was FUCKING NOISY. Which was expected of course, just as when you shoot he Nikon at 8.000 with n-log.

Just stop. The Fuji will have a problem with waxy skin at ISO above 800 (not very film like) and the Blackmagic looks lackluster to me, extremely digital looking as you call it, from what I’ve seen. And that tiny sensor won’t make anyone happy shooting above 400 ISO.
I did own the GH5 and would never ever use it above ISO 800. So please show me some of your ISO 5000 footage that looks so spectacular.

It’s so weird that you judge the z6 pre pre pre production footage at 8.000 iso shot with the highly untested n-log profile so harshly. To my eyes it looks a world better than anything I’ve seen from a smaller sensor camera at those sensitivities. Most impressive is the fact that it seems to hold up extremely well with regards to dynamic range and color information even at 8.000.
Sure it’s got some noise, but do we even know if the footage was properly exposed according to the n-log gamma curve? Please take a fucking chill pill. I even doubt the BMPCC 4K will match the dynamic range in the day shots.

It’s so weird that you judge the z6 pre pre pre production footage at 8.000 iso shot with the highly untested n-log profile so harshly. To my eyes it looks a world better than anything I’ve seen from a smaller sensor camera at those sensitivities. Most impressive is the fact that it seems to hold up extremely well with regards to dynamic range and color information even at 8.000.
Sure it’s got some noise, but do we even know if the footage was properly exposed according to the n-log gamma curve? Please take a fucking chill pill. I even doubt the BMPCC 4K will match the dynamic range in the day shots.

Intentionally, since they were really noisy, and not that kind of nice noise you get on ARRI and Blackmagic cameras ?

The film you worked on looks cool! 
Thats a very different kind of grade though. In the footage from the Z6 I see detail in the shadows. There is basically no light and yet I see detail everywhere, and most importantly, the image looks really good. 
 In your trailer the shadows are clipped to black. 

It looks horrible due to the grade. 
F-Log is basically Rec2020 with similar color coordinates and it looks like no conversion to Rec709 has taken place which results in kinda Sony like skintones - I agree.
But the potential is there definitely. Definition and texture look great even with standard settings as it seems.

The GH5 isn't great and maybe not much better in terms of overprocessing in comparison to the Z6/Z7.
The footage actually needs lots of processing to hide the internal processing which is as it sounds, ridiculous.
The footage from the BM P4K wouldn't need any of that, just put a diffusion filter on the lens and you should be good.
The grain in the ISO5000 sample I saw, looked really pleasing, wouldn't even denoise that.

Keep trolling. Still no evidence of NR or sharpening being turned off with Eterna or F-log. Still no jaw droppingly clean GH5 footage at ISO 5000 from you.

It’s so weird that you judge the z6 pre pre pre production footage at 8.000 iso shot with the highly untested n-log profile so harshly. To my eyes it looks a world better than anything I’ve seen from a smaller sensor camera at those sensitivities. Most impressive is the fact that it seems to hold up extremely well with regards to dynamic range and color information even at 8.000.
Sure it’s got some noise, but do we even know if the footage was properly exposed according to the n-log gamma curve? Please take a fucking chill pill. I even doubt the BMPCC 4K will match the dynamic range in the day shots.

The night shots are at 8000 ISO as stated in the video.
But the kicker is that the day shots were with Nikon flat profile @Geoff CB!
Martin writes: 
“Simon, the night shots are in N-log with Atomos Ninja Inferno. The day shots are in flat profile, captured internally.
Rolling shutter I haven’t noticed in these shots, but there surely will be substantial in faster panning - after all it’s a rolling shutter sensor.”

That’s fucking crazy and might have stopped me from buying the x-t3

This shot...

I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage
https://vimeo.com/290295765
 

I'm not buying another camera until triple card slots become standard.
 

Actually, I was not in AWB. I never shoot AWB. My kelvin was set on 5600. That day at the zoo the light was all over the place, with varying clouds, etc. There was no hunting for white balance. The camera was recording what was there in a given situation. If I had been doing something serious I would have white balanced almost every scene. Considering the situation I might have been better off. and gotten more uniform results using AWB.

I was shooting Eterna---it is a film simulation between the standard simulations and Fuji F-Log. Eterna is not, strictly speaking, a truly flat profile. F-log is what should be used on bright days like I was shooting on. It will give you a full 12 stops of dynamic range...not too shabby by any means.
The reason I didn't use F-log is because I was trying out these FD lenses for the first time and trying to properly judge exposure and dynamic range in F-log would only complicate things. I wasn't trying to demonstrate dynamic range. I was only trying to show how you can shoot non-electronic, fully manual lenses in the X-H1 because of the 3 axis internal stabilization the camera provides. If I'd been trying to do something finished and professional I would have shot more on a tripod, definitely shot in F-log, been more careful with my exposure over all, and graded things carefully in editing. But in this I was only trying to say you can get some pretty good images with a lot of character, very fast speeds, and not have to spend thousands of $$ on expensive lenses. That's why I mentioned the footage was shot on FDs...never before was possible on Fujifilm cameras. You can do the same with Rokinon cinema lenses--but they're heavier.