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Just now, Katrikura said:

however it is a long term investment as it will not depreciate quickly

naaaaah, next year we will have an 8K for cheap, this is not investment, it is just expense, nobody here needs something like that, SH1, C200, you can get much for less, disappointing really.

4 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

It is, but it's in the range of a lot of people that never would've dreamed of being able to get 8K raw, let alone 12k.

$10K in the range of a lot of people, in this time, really?, 99% here will never spend that money in a camera, who needs 8K?, I do not see the advantage over a SH1, a pocket with 6K, something like that could have been much more interesting, not this.

1 minute ago, newfoundmass said:

$10k for 12k is wild. 

that new camera is out of the range of 99% of the people here, it is for medium/big productions, I was expecting a pocket, not this.

16 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

Is Grant OK? His left shoulder is having spasms. 

yeah, looks like he has a serious issue there

38 minutes ago, mercer said:

"Christmas in July" ... fire sale for the P4K?

I'm fairly certain my next camera purchase will be the Sigma FP, but a P4K for $650 might sway me.

ey Mercer, you finally come back, I missed you comments on R5 and R6 topics

rolling shutter looks bad in 25P, muck worst than the z6, real test will show the exact numbers but looks like is above 30ms.

32 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

I forgot about that. Fuck Canon for that one. 

Micro HDMI is unacceptable. 

Fuck again Canon, crap micro HDMI screwed up even more, anyone here know if an Atomo Ninja Assassin will work with the R6?

3 hours ago, mechanicalEYE said:

@1:07

 

 

F.........K canon, R6 is even worst than R5 managing the heat. We are screwed, I can't work with these cameras unless there is an alternative solution, external recording maybe?, cage with fan?, ohh gosh, what a mess!!!

7 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

Some guy did 4K HQ vs 4K normal on R5

 

 

 

Unfortunately Oversampling off has clearly a softer image...

32 minutes ago, Super8 said:

We had various degrees of IR pollution issues with the P6K.

that's something that always happen with digital cameras sometimes, nothing that a good ND+IR filter can solve.

4 minutes ago, Super8 said:

I had 2 BMP6K's wet the bed and ruin a shoot over multiple days.  

I'll take short record times any day over ruined  color.  And the crazy thing is Black Magic is still selling the P4k and P6K as is.

unfortunately issues could happen with any camera, I have shoot ruined by a Red camera, but anyway, you have to choose the best tool for the job, I don't see me choosing a camera with record time issues even before starting the shoot, no way, I hope with an external recorded the issues with the R5 can be fixed. 

5 minutes ago, joema said:

Also unknown is the cumulative heat buildup based on shooting duty cycle. Even if you never shoot a 30 min. interview, if you do numerous 2-min b-roll shots in hot weather, will the R5 hit the thermal limit?

More than the initial thermal time limit, the cooldown times seem troubling, esp. if hot ambient conditions amplify this.

whoever is preordering a R5 also should preorder a vent!!!

most probably we will soon see some dedicated solution cages with coolers added to reach the 30 minutes limit, and maybe two or three more iterations, but probably the best solution will be an external recorded, I hate them anyway, so probably best for me is R6 route.

1 hour ago, Super8 said:

No interview is going to be stuck on the subject for 30 minutes straight.   You always have a second camera capturing a different angle.   The work around for the R5 recording limit is not that hard to do.

to be honest. I have never done an interview that lasted less than 1 hour, never happened to me.

15 minutes ago, Yurolov said:

The REAL story is that the r6 is the camera to get. That alone beats the s1h for the PRICE. 

10 bit interal, 60p, Log, ibis and DPAF. End of story.  This overheating issue is a distraction as the people who are spending that much money on an R5 will know what they are getting into. If you are shooting 8k raw or 4k 120p for interviews, god help you. The r5 was never going to be the camera for you. But if you are just shooting clips and stock footage travelling it will be fine.

You can wait for the Sony but it will not beat the r6 on PRICE, nor will it touch the r6 in the IBIS department - which judging by the footage is immense and Olympus level. 

But I get that it is very easy to poo poo canon. Neumann is right, they should be celebrated for what we have been given. 

 

Totally agree, R6 route is the path to follow, anyway, I will wait first to see the new Sony, but as soon as I see that zombie crappy skin tone I will press the Botton on the R6.

1 hour ago, Emanuel said:

A concern, yes, I meant if there will be any way to reduce the overheating, hence to be variable. I believe if there will be some upcoming accessory to keep the temperature under control we might have something here to extend its usability. The idea seems promising to me : )

yes, we will see those upcoming accessories to keep temperature under control, but why I am going to spend $4k for a camera that needs an accessory to be probably reliable, no way, the smart choice is the R6, if there is no overheating issues, anyway, I will wait for reliable tests on both canons and the new Sony and make a smart choice based on that.

1 hour ago, rawshooter said:

This won't really help since the heat is trapped inside the body of the camera - and unlike a typical computer/case fan, such a fan can't blow the hot air out of the camera body.

it will help, this was already tested with the A6300, I remember a guy who built a cage with a vent just in the back of the A6300 and was able to shoot for two or three hors without overheating.

8 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Until some accessories manufacturer will come with something like this ; )

https://www.telescope.com/Astrophotography/Astrophotography-Accessories/Orion-DSLR-Camera-Cooler/c/4/sc/61/p/101916.uts

https://pcper.com/2016/10/strap-a-peltier-to-your-dslr-so-you-can-lengthen-your-exposure/

 

I am sure we will see a lot of this kind of solution over the internet in the next weeks, a dedicated cage with one or two fans is on its way for sure.

Please people, don't be so dramatic, I just find out a cheap solution!!!

4 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

You can only go on average 10 mins longer in the 4K HQ mode.

So that's not good either.

I think I'll get the EOS R6 instead or wait for Sony

10 minutes is too short, goodbye R5, R6 always looked the route to follow, Sony?, zombie crappy skin tone?, will be get an improvement in Sony colors?

5 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

Gordon's video showed waveforms. 

that's very good, another point for the R5, it will be a hard decision between both cameras depending on the RS measure!

1 hour ago, Silenkiller said:

Hmm zebras on the r6?

 

Gah i cant figure out which to pre order. I dont really need raw i just want the best 4k60p 4k24p. 

probably you will have to wait for a reliable source with RS measure in both cameras at 4k60p and 4k24p, that result will tell you exactly where to go, from paper, looks like it will be the R6 route, but is early to really know.

9 minutes ago, Lars Steenhoff said:

Yes you are missing many things the r5 has

I really don't see many practical advantages in the R5 over the R6, let's wait for a reliable RS measure at 24p before we make the choice, I think after that many could take R6 route.

7 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

And director was insisting on shots we already did before, triple coverage on some, little on others

This is lack of experience, since it was a budget project, I am assuming the director was also the director assistant, which is the reason for this kind of rookie mistake, once a shoot is completed you can not go back, the director always have to be sure he has the shoot before moving to another, that means after he saw in the monitor exactly what he was looking for, needs to check with sound that everything was OK for that particular shoot.

crazy, H.265 is not widely adopted and now we have H.266, not sure if somebody beside tech nerds are even going to consider it.

7 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Ha! No, I think it might have just been the pressures and stress getting to me, of trying to shoot too many pages in too little time and the sunlight was going to rapidly disappear soon. 

It's strange filmmaking, you spend the whole day working from early in the morning, and almost always rushing at the end before the sun is gone, when shooting I sleep like 3 or 4 hours per day, and I am always with my energy at the roof, working like a slave, I don't feel any pain, enjoying even last minutes screw up, and when everything is finished and you are back home, I am like in a coma state for 3 days and need like a week to recover. Sounds like love!!!