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One where the viewer does not consider either.
If I am viewing and immediately think, “that looks sharp”, or “this looks soft”, it has already been overcooked.
Something that REALLY bothers me in any movie or TV show, is if I can see the production.
Bad acting and poor dialogue are one thing, but I notice more and more these days, anything where I can see what’s going on behind the scenes.
I watched Nomadland for the first time yesterday evening and my overall thoughts were:
I enjoyed it and thought it a good movie.
The filmmaking process did not jar.
There was probably a little too much overuse of sunsets in too many scenes.
The use of non-actors in most of the roles was a bit too obvious and some of the characters as a result were less ‘real’ because of that…but this and it’s ’worthiness’ is probably why it won 3 Oscars.
But whether it was soft or sharp or both or neither, at times or not, I could not tell you.
If I had noticed either it would have been a distraction.
Fortunately, it had zero slow motion, or anamorphic bending of the edges, or blue flares. Thankfuckfully.
 

I am going to release on the blog a little EOSHD LOG C3 profile for Panasonic's full frame cameras and perhaps the GH6.
Happy to give it out for free to any of you folk who'd like to try it out in return for a bit of feedback and some test shots.
It will make your camera compatible with the ARRI look library and ALEXA LUTS.
It should also be a bit easier to grade than V-LOG.
It also brings ARRI LOG C wide colour gamut to the Panasonic cams.
No need to wait for GH7 and pay $200 for the privilege!
Happy to answer any questions relating to it and what cameras it'll work best on...

Kudos for this, Andrew, that's a hell of an offer! Pity I have nothing similar here among those available at my side or I would be rather glad to make it : ) Can't wait to see what this community can find from there though :- )

I’m in.

5ii owner more than up for it 🫡

Test files on the way to you now.

The IBIS of the GH5 is very similar to the GH6, people saying the GH6 is a lot of better never used both cameras (or they are influencers).
In 5,7K the IBIS of the GH6 is worse than on the GH5 in 4K, much more "jumps" while walking between 15mm and upward.
The real upgrade in IBIS performance is on the G9II (and probably the GH7). However I still get a lot of wooble between 8-12mm on my G9II. The new EIS mode suppress the wooble but also lower the level of fine details because of the crop.
About the S9 I'm not sure, I still don't like the S5II internal video engine and I think the S9 has the same. Also the rolling shutter is probably the same than the S5II, though I'm not sure since I have not used the S9.
For me the big selling point of the G/GH (outside of IBIS and RS) is the lenses weight and size. Even the tiny 20mm f1.7II has very fast AF on the G9II (though a bit noisy), this combo is a joy to use. And when I want the best quality, it's always with the 25-50mm, I just love how this lens renders (colors and contrast), I think even more than my most expensive FF zoom lenses.

Yes, it's 8 bits ... I think lot of people don't agree, but for me most of time 8 bits files are enough. If I don't need fast AF, 90% of the time I even prefer to use 8 bits 4K H264 files on my S5 instead of H265 10 bits on my S5II.

Sure does!  Both in 29.97p and 23.98p (which is probably 23.976).

I know that this music vid was shot on the 6k FF. It looks good, but it would’ve looked good on most other cameras, because of the talented crew
 
  
 i’m going to go against the grain and say that most of stuff online i’ve seen that was shot on the og (as well as the 4k and 6k) looks like shit tbh

Dunno. Not that exited from a pure image point of view when it comes to web footage. I like the fact of full frame 48p 17 to 9 and Braw. No prores nor h264 is a rather minus. Colour looks like on most Sony and Pana videos, which is fine but not breathtaking. What's the offial BM launch video? The one or few awesome videos, which are selling this camera like hot cakes rather convinient store muffins? The og Bmcc has tons of great and convincing footage not depending on models. I am sure Bmcc 6k can be graded into many directions. The official footage on the blackmagic website looks super. But in the hands of users so far it mostly does not shine brighter than a Pana Sony Dslm.
Let's go for it!😊 @eatstoomuchjam Script page  is a possible way to get started but might be too much due to scale?:)

Sun is out today. A known German saying goes: Sonne lacht, Blende acht.  28mm on S35 at f8. Means I can take my LX10 out and shoot some lovely 4K at f2.8 for same Dof and great look. High shutter galore ahead.:)

Just educated guesswork, but that might be because it's using the full sensor area (instead of a vertically cropped area in UHD and C4K), so the IBIS can't move the sensor as far while staying within the image circle of the lens. Assuming the horizontal field-of-view is the same in 5.7K, UHD and C4K, the corners of the frame will be closer to the image circle limit in 4:3 than in 16:9 or 17:9.

From the GH5ii manual (there are equivalent modes when the camera is set to 50 Hz or 24 Hz 'system frequency') :

I agree and most of influencers never speak about these things, they are very enthusiastic about the GH6 4K 120fps or 5,7K 60fps but at no point during their reviews they speak about the drop in detail quality or the lack of Open Gate 60fps compared to the GH5, in the same way they never speak about the drop in IBIS performance when using 5,7K.

I tested a bunch of modes and was really impressed that the only times it cropped in were when you explicitly told it to do so (the ETC and 2x and 4x digital zooms) and everything else was downsampled.  That even included things like the FHD 60p mode in 2x digital crop - it was still downsampling from an area half the width of the sensor ( ~2.5K ) down to the FHD output resolution.  It made all the modes I tested really high quality.
I still read about the hodge-podge of gotchas and limitations on current generations of cameras and just shake my head.

I confirm, my GH5 has Open gate 3,3K downsampled 60 fps. Even my GH6 and G9II have not Open Gate 60fps.
The GH5 is still the best Panasonic m43 cameras for a lot of things, including detail rendering and Open Gate 60fps.

The GH5II has been tested for displaying the best detail rendering of the whole bunch from what I read, high resolving but gentle. @Beritar Thank you for testing the Gh6 and S-line cameras and for sharing. So far GH5II looks even more interesting to me. None of the bunch does open gate 60p, right?

GH7

Full specs here
https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-mirrorless-cameras/lumix-g-cameras/dc-gh7.html

Sun is out today. A known German saying goes: Sonne lacht, Blende acht.  28mm on S35 at f8. Means I can take my LX10 out and shoot some lovely 4K at f2.8 for same Dof and great look. High shutter galore ahead.:)

Look at your statements and compare to what you would like to consider an insult from others.
Sanveer might not like it getting mixed up with me though.:) @sanveer I am a pretty nice person btw.:)
You don't need to prove anything. I believe you having a youtube channel. Even if you would stop your youtube business, your opinions relevance does not depend on that. They either speak to people or maybe sometimes they don't. Very simple.
Why not stopping getting angry and insulting people. Have a good laugh about one of forums running gags and say something like to me f.i.: "Ebrahim who?  I am Zlfan, a unique cat but no copycat. I might be all wordy but still spitting out some spiffy stuff." And you are. Cool Oly OM1 thread btw. All good.
 

Sun is out today. A known German saying goes: Sonne lacht, Blende acht.  28mm on S35 at f8. Means I can take my LX10 out and shoot some lovely 4K at f2.8 for same Dof and great look. High shutter galore ahead.:)

It's never too late for a rebrand and a fresh start!!

While the S5II H264/265 uses temporal noise reduction as opposed to the S5 and make the fine details worse especially in 4K/C4K. I think the GH6 being softer than the GH5 in 4K/C4K is mostly due to a more agressive IDP (Intelligent detail processing). In order to reduce moiré, it smooth fine details (making the image more organic for some people) but also reducing the level of fine details when you crop a bit.
So if you want to get the same impression of sharpness of the GH5 and tries to add digital sharpening in post on the GH6 (this is rarely a good thing to do but it can help to see the differences of details between different cameras/recording mode by highlighting them),  the image becomes very bad with some apparent details looking oversharpened and some very fines details looking smoothed out. The GH5 just keeps more details and even if this camera still use a good amount of sharpening in 4K, this sharpening looks less rough.
In 5,7K, the GH6 is much better (and closer than the GH5), fine details looks less rough than 4K/C4K, however the IBIS takes a good hit when walking producing more "jumps".
Open gate is very similar to 5,7K on the GH6, maybe the fine details are slightly better when there are not a lot of motion, but the rendering is very similar.
However the GH5 in Open Gate is the best I've seen, the level of sharpening is almost the same than a raw picture file, making the image the best you can get on from a Panasonic m43 camera about detail rendering and in my opinion this mode is much better than any mode inside the GH6 or the G9II, even in Prores. Of course I don't speak about DR and colors, for me the GH6 has the best colors of any Panasonic cameras.