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40mil CZJ 16mm lens and GX85, jpeg from raw file. A 40mil S16 lens would have covered the sensor without vignetting I am sure. But despite it's vignette I love the image I am getting out of this, super sharp in the centre and great colors in the raw files. It's tiny and pretty looking on my GX85.

I will be happy to use it on my Eos M hopefully or with my two Dslrs. I just like the fact that Magic Lantern is around. What is your favorite personal camera for video and photo? @stephen I like too many cameras but GX85 would be my recent pick. I enjoyed my Bmpcc last summer and the one before, the latter not for stills of course though I wouldnt mind to print out some 1080p stills enlarged for A4 format. My S1H did the occasional video and photo gig but is collecting dust at the moment.

Last and third last are my favorites! @kye The Canon nFD 28mm F2.8 would be my pick of a best bang for buck lens. I have posted about a couple times here and it is not a mystery lens by any means but it's still sort of an undertestimted lens imo. I bought mine ten years ago for 20EU and last time I checked, they still went for around 30EU. My sample is almost as high resolving wide open on a China speedbooster as my 20mm F1.7 at 2m distance. It still has a creamy and very pleasing look and looks also fantastic on my S1H. Perfect lens for mft, S35 and FF sensor gates.

From what I've seen and comparing to my own 10bit footage, Magic Lantern Raw on Eos M and 5DII/ III looks magical under natural light despite less dynamic range and much less resolution. So I am exited about any news from ML. I am referring to the pure joy for the image. It is not an observation in regards to full time content production. No, no, no! @eatstoomuchjam No 10bit GM5 flimsyness but a solid and small 10bit GX85 body. Thank you, Panasonic!:) GM5 feels hollow and viewfinder is very tiny. Sorry, but no! 10bit GX, yes please.:) @stephenDoesn't the 5DIII allow liveview on the screen, just like the EOS M?

You could do a similar testing like kye for banana leaves and textures in low light, when you enter your neighbor's garden at night.😊

Thanks a lot! That's some seriously extensive testing and great review! @kye 2x crop looks great. One thing caught my critical eye:) The 2.08x on your second setup looks to be higher resolving than the 25mm focal length on the 12-35. First setup with the darker exposure looks like to be expected. Did the stills get mixed up for the second setup? Anyway, downsampled 2.7K for 1080p is awesome for 2/3" lovers or for using a prime with an internal 2x tc. Great news. Thank you very much for your tests, findings and great effort! By the way, your Cosmicar looks like it is outperforming the 12-35 for 1.4x and 1.5x gate. Impressive.

That's awesome in regards to the 9mm, the GH7 and your testing! @kye Thank you very much! The 9mm you tested is the Leica 9mm F1.4? Thank you for the offer, as stills would be nice as always, though your findings are already impressive enough, as always.:) The GH7 is looking very tempting indeed. Is an exact 1.4 4K crop possible, giving S16 width? I am asking because I figured it would be more, around 1.5, due to the 25MP sensor vs 20MP on the GH5. Is the 2x crop as nice as you found it to be on the GH5? One last question, is Punch-In during recording high resolving enough and a sufficient aid for manual focussing during recording? Thank you very much for your insights and awesome work! @John Matthews I dearly remember that thread. It's one of my abolute favourite ones! Legendary! Yesterday I went taking pictures again with my GX85, coupled with a 40mm S16 lens. One pretty looking outfit, itself worth of getting a picture taken. Panny better brings out a 10bit successor in a very similar or same body. Tilt screen is perfect on this one. And so would be 749EU!:)

My second GX85 has arrived yesterday. It feels like new. I'll sell the 12-32mm, since I'm owning two of them now. Great deal for a great camera. I still got my first one, which I bought eight years ago thanks to a great thread on this forum. I should let the GM5 go, since the faux orange rubber coating is kinda too cute to stress test it when using the camera for photography. I might give it a photo tour before departing from it. Decisions.:) That sounds great, coming from a og pocket and Bmmcc afficiando like you! @kye How is sharpness on the GH7, artificial looking or natural? What about punchin focussing during recording? Does the camera offer a 2x crop mode with good codecs and quality for some b3/4 goodness? True S16 mode or 16, 2.87 vs 3x? More questions to come.:) Thanks!😊

Hehe, I got lucky paying 250 for mine with the 12-32 and a Lumix bag. These bags are highly fashionable in certain groups of clumsy professor photographers.:) The combo usually goes for 350 with the lens. I got my first one eight years ago and paid around 430 for the body. It's still going strong, even without the backwheel which quit on me a few years ago. My favorite lens with it for photo is the 14mm pancake. I also liked using my Oly 45. But it's silver and kinda shiny for street. Planning on getting the Panny 42.5 F1.7. I also got a G3, a cute and small but solid plastic fantastic Dslm style camera. It's the dslrish sister to the GX1. The latter also going for higher prices than a few years ago. GX85 is the best of them all imo for a variety of reasons. 4K video is still great for being 8bit and Rec709. But you know that of course. @John Matthews I just had to get my second one for that nice price and I am looking forward to do a photo tour with two cameras and lenses.

I bought myself a second GX85. It will hopefully arrive this week. Comes with the 12-32, which I already own and enjoyed using for some test clips with the og pocket. I think I should let go my GM5, as it was more an object of desire than being a practical artists tool for me. What do you guys think? Prices are pretty nice and high for these at the moment. Mine is orange and in a very good shape. Much usage would rub the faux leather off I think. I love the subtle color grade @kye Great results with your GX85 cinema beast.:) Btw I really love the colors of the GX' raw files when taking photos . This camera is perfect for street and to carry along. Anyway, how is Prores on the GH7?:) Any nasty artefacts? Awesome to hear and read about your findings with this exciting camera, Kye!

Lumix S line prices are rising again on the used market. Vintage and quirky Mft cameras too. I got an orange GM5 with a 12-32 lens and two batteries for a good price two years ago, with the box, everything in great condition except the leather case. They cost up to three times as much now of what I paid two years ago! Here it is, a flimsy beauty, a tiny S9 minus 4K 10bit, but with evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe:)

It's a broken record playing, but it's always playing when I am thinking about the S9. Panny, please give us pancake primes and zooms, a successor with S1 quality Evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe. Full size hdmi would be nice too. Matt Frazer, can you hear us!:)

Thanks for sharing @eatstoomuchjam Product text is hillarious! Thanks for indicating.:) @MrSMW Is Cam Mackey changing the game of presenting game changing cameras? Are all new cameras changing the game of being a camera mac? What game is it exactely?

Used S5 cameras are being sold for used GH5 prices. Great value! @Tim Sewell Anyone using an A7IV, how is battery life, overheating, S35 readout and 4K quality, codec and noise characteristics at lowlight and higher Isos? S1II has flagship specs and a mid tier body, selling for a flagship price. So it seems okish, wheras the og S1 and S5 felt like bargains back then. It will be interesting to see if used cameras like Lumix S line will rise in reaction to the higher priced new models.

It will shoot the most awesome video you will ever see, with a tan, a bird logo? What are you referring to and, by the goddesses of your native tongue, what are you talking about?

No kidding? @Andrew Reid I love the colours people are getting from the M8 sensor. Some classy classic read from a photoblog favorite of mine. Those colours in these shots, bw as well! https://blog.mingthein.com/2012/07/12/revisiting-the-leica-m8-a-cheap-entry-into-digital-rangefinders/

Darn. They really work hard to make this camera look bad with their color grading and uninspiring filming. Cinealta F3 amateur work looks stellar on the other hand. Tells us a lot about the shooter and the camera. Whereas none of the S1II videos I've watched so far show me much about its image quality. Tells us nothing about the camera but everything about the shooter. Maybe watching cammacky will give some insight. But that guy sells every camera equally well.

I just saw a video with the S1II, shot for a big review site. It was a rather lazy display of cinematography, in concept and realisation. Shouldn't working for a huge review site be rather inspiring for the tester to do the cameras justice when using it in the field! They don't make it easy for us to want to buy a camera. Good!:) Nikon Z6III for 2100 Eur new, now that is a whole lotta camera for that price! Maybe there are some convincing comparison videos between Z6III and S1II with convincing video work. Names are both kinda equally meh.:)

Of course, Lumexa😎 S16 gate on the S1II would be around 2100 x 1250px, considering a 2.88 crop factor and a 1.66 aspect ratio. That's not too bad, better than the og pocket. Mft sized gate would sport around 3000px in width.

I meant, beside being a FF camera, give it a variety of formats/gates. Wouldn't that be a jam.:) @eatstoomuchjam

And 10bit Hlg or log, please. Call it the Lumix Bolex and a sister model the Lumix Bolex ND. Give it a S16, 16, 2/3, S8 and 8mm gate mode plus GH4 battery life. @eatstoomuchjam

That goes for many cameras, all of the 10bit bunch for sure. Nowadays users are obsessed with numbers but grade their footage to the shittiest outcome possible. It's really laughable. GH2 or GH4 videos look better by average than many videos by current cameras. That says a lot about these kinds of users from back then.

As long as colours look shitty enough, everbody seems to be happy.😊 A lot of youtube footage from the current 10bit and raw cameras makes CineD on the Gh4 look like from a grand era of color science. I really loved the colors from your Bmmcc footage and I liked them better than GH7. @kye I've only liked the color from half a hand full of GH6/7 videos, one of them with high production values by Olan Collardy. It seems to me like it's harder for a lot of people to treat log footage shot in natural light, coming from these modern hybrid cameras of the last five years. I like my og bmpcc much better than my Lumix S in that regard, same with stuff available on youtube.

LX10 in photo raw is very nice. If it had 10bit HLG for video, it would be a perfect pocket camera, even moreso with an evf. I don't enjoy slippery phones for taking images, billions of people do though. I love the 24 to 70 F1.4-2.8 zoom on the LX btw. A 24 to 50 zoom coupled with a 1 or 1/1.5" sensor would be nice and a mechanical focus wheel as well. Afaik only a few phones offer the latter. Is that right? Are these your shots? @Andrew Reid Nice images and colours. @Cosimo Colors remind me of GH2 palette when in use of skilled hands. Old school digi vintage look by oldschool 8bit masters like Martin Walgren or Andrew Reid.:) That reminds me how much of imagelovers GH2 users were when creating their pieces. I barely find any good stuff shot on recent cameras. The destruction of vimeo didn't help that I guess.

I've been thinking about the 15mm Panny Leica for a while. It's a pretty looking lens. I am very happy with my 14mm pancake though, which is an awesome little lens on my GX85 and my og pocket. The 15mm has about 1 stop more light gathering in comparison. If it had a clutch mechanism for hard stops in MF like the Oly 12 and 17mm, it would be hard to resist for me. There is also a cheaper Dji branded variante out there which came with Dji's mft raw recording gimbal camera. What would speak for the Sigma over the Leica? Maybe the big focus ring and ultimate image quality? Though I imagine the Panny Leica is no slouch in the image department. What camera would you mount your lens of choice to? Did I read something about a GH6 or GH7? Maybe big lens for a big camera then?:) @mercer