Jump to content

Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

  • Posts

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

  1. 9 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:


    When all that is known then we can move it from "strange and also silly" (which on the face of it would be the case) to a best case of "strange but yeah OK its workable".


    For me, was this case. Not as good as two SDs, but much better than a single one.
    Caveat: looks like the MicroSD could only storage photos, not video. For stills, all the usual options are available.

    A Nikon guy on Gerald I'mdone told a very plausible story: cameras with big grips put the battery sideways inside the grip, leaving room on the body for circuitry / IBIS, and the two SD slot could go on the other side. In this camera, since it would have no big grip, the battery is inside the body and there is no room for the two SD cards. But the SD and the Micro could be fitted next to the battery with almost the same space as a single card slot.

    And this is not meant to be a "professional" camera, if it had a single slot, nobody would find it strange - as in the A7CII.

  2. Talking about the X-S20 itself - since I was a CDAF m43 user before (my first 2 PDAF cameras were the X-T20 and the X-S10), I could be easily impressed, but I'm liking a lot the camera. Must confess, more than I expected.

    Was in a music festival this weekend. First test (and one of the reasons that compactness and discreetion are top priorities for me): festival stated that "professional cameras" are forbidden. Attached the 55-200mm on the camera, facing down the ThinkTank bag, only the back of the camera visible. Security saw the size of the camera, did not even bother to ask to take a look. 🙂

    Shooting music festivals is a scenario that I'm used to - but, again, using m43 cameras. Always got good results, once even was published on the official Franz Ferdinand instagram channel. Face detection with m43 usually could not detect the face from distance, but single point usually worked, and with low light and bad stage lighting I usually switch to manual focus, focus on the mic stand, put the focus a touch farther and get good sharp photos.

    The X-S20 not only got the faces all the time, but 90% of the time, find the eye of the subject, at 200mm, even with the singer occupying half the frame. With daylight and stage lighting. Never had so many keepers in a concert. And one of the singers and the festival channel already published some of the photos. 🙂

    It is another league from the X-S10.

    Made two videos, but since I recorded in 6.2k 10bit 4:2:2, will need to work with proxies, and I'm still a beginner in Resolve, will need some spare time. Tested with the internal mics in Auto level, could see that the bass is distorted, was a experiment to see the levels needed, but apart from that the sound was good for internal mics (much better than all my GXs and the FZ1000). AF again was getting the eyes 100% of the time, will see the precision at the footage.

    Still have to test it more, but my doubts about having to go to Sony to get good AF were killed. From the tests that I saw with screen recorders with the A7CII, A6700 and some other cameras, I see minimal differences. For me, ths one looks like a keeper.

  3. 18 hours ago, ntblowz said:

    Yeah the suction cup really doesn't work, and it is quite heavy vs my aliexpress fan, I guess that why it doesn't really sucks even with film vs velcro solution from my other fan, the battery life is way shorter (less than hr vs 4-5hrs).


    I just have to say lucky I didn't pay full price for this ulanzi fan, the aliexpress one have ver 2 which with some camera models you can just snap on instead of velcro which is even better 

    In fact, I was expecting that the fan would not make ANY difference, hence it is a plus. And since a tiny fan could make this improvement, for sure the cheaper Aliexpress versions would perform the same or better, which is good news.

  4. 17 hours ago, kye said:

    Good to hear it works - thanks for doing a real test, unlike almost all others who think that 10 minute clips in 25C/77F is a test of anything at all.

    It sounds like trying to cool the Fuji with a fan is like trying to cool a nuclear reactor by blowing air on the side of the carpark building.

    Lol, kinda is. But the camera was hot to touch only under full sun continuously; in shade, or in the music festival that I was, it got barely warm. For me use (20 min clips maximum), did not need a fan at all - bought it just for the low price and as a preventive measure.

    But again - if the back of the camera was metal, probably it would never overheats. Guess that Fuji was worried about someone melting the LCD, but it was just a case to show a message to open the LCD screen when the temperature get above some level.

  5. Very interesting camera. Is a Z6III-ish, not a Z6II repacked, with a lot of surprises.

    The option (for stills) to link the AF point to the IBIS, and the sensor moved to stabilize the AF point is VERY interesting. Never thought about it.

    All the newer AF algos since it uses the same processor as the Z9/Z8. Good video modes, not outstanding, but for the intended target, more than enough. Very good buffer for stills. 

    And a lot of people are hating it, but I loved the idea of the second card slot is a MicroSD. Almost the same space taken from the camera as a single slot, but with a backup option (for stills). VERY clever.

    In fact, if I was on the market for a full frame camera (as an amateur), this one surpassed the A7CII and the S5II for me.

  6. 3 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

    That is precisely the point I'm making though.

    If the GH6 is the same as the G9mkii then it too will also have them but they are not being used by the AF system at this time but it doesn't preclude them being used in the future.

    As unlikely as it may seem for them to release a camera (GH6) that has the capability that everyone wanted but not enable it immediately and then release a new camera with the same sensor but enable it in that one is not beyond the bounds of possibility.

    Adding it as a €200 upgrade to the GH6 further down the line (and when they'e had more time to perfect it than when the GH6 was launched), why not ?

    Its completely possible and would make sense for them and the customer.

    If it is the same sensor, meaning that it was in the GH6 first.

    Which, as I said, from what I've read it isn't.

    From what I've read, it is the same underlying sensor, but tweaked - the values for the Dual Output Gain were changed (which I think that involves changing the circuitry), and with PDAF (with masked pixels). Hence, no PDAF with firmware upgrade.

  7. Call me impressed, the little thing works.

    Could not reproduce exactly the same conditions - the sun moved and I had to transfer the camera to the window around the 20 mins mark, hence it had a little bit of more air. But was under the sun, became very hot as before.

    The Ulanzi fan was used on full speed. If the footage is long, good idea to use it plugged on a power bank / USB charger, with 25 mins the internal battery was around 50% (then I plugged it in). 

    The yellow warning appeared on the 25 min mark, and the red around 33. And the camera never shutdown until the 128gb card is full, on the 46 minute mark.

    The integrated temperature meter was kinda useless - yellow on the 39oc, red on the 42oC. 

    Another bad thing - even with the back film applied, the suction cups do not work very well; pressed the fan a bit to stick from time to time. Needs some "baby caring" in a tripod, and for run and gun it will fall for sure. In the Fujifilms, I would mod it to use the srews that the camera have.

    To summarize, it works for tripod use, even a bit better than I expected. But have some caveats.

  8. Well, torture tested today - heatwave here in Brazil, 39oC outside, around 30oC inside.

    Put it in a small tripod in my room, no ventilation, and under direct sun (in a black camera...). 6.2k, 10-bit 4:2:2, 360 mbps, with a v30 Extreme Peo card (which gets somewhat hot - my v60s are on the way). Static scene this time.

    Yellow warning around 15 mins, red on 20 mins, shutdown in 30 mins. Camera very hot, maybe bad to handhold - but when under the sun, i mean it, the tripod legs were very hot too. 

    In the weekend I made a 10 mins recording in a music festival, under the sun too (but arguably in better conditions than today's test), with the same settings, no heat warning whatsoever.

    For my use, more than enough. Will try the Ulanzi fan now.

  9. 10 hours ago, MrSMW said:

    After 23 years of wedding and event photography, even more so is whether the camera is held to the eye (serious) or held at chest height using the rear LCD (less serious).

    I adapted to this way of shooting, I don’t know exactly when, but some time between 5-10 years ago as I was transitioning from photographer to hybrid shooter.

    Partly because it was easier to work this way, partly due to eyesight and partly because it does cause fewer people to be camera aware.

    Dimensions play a part, but so does how we use these things.

    Remember steady cam rigs? OK, they are still a thing for some I know, but the amount of attraction they used to get, never mind the Robocop body armour set ups I used to see at weddings.

    What’s the saying, ‘tread softly but carry a big stick’.

    I’m very much heading back to that ethos with gear going forward.

    I know this is @BTM_Pix quote originally but it was easier to not scroll back a page and find that!

    About size: if I work with still / video, the G9II will not be a problem at all. But as an amateur, using on the streets or travelling - yep, attracts attention.

    And about form factor (and since it would need a completely new retooling): big attracts attention, too small is bad to hold. Ideal: big grip with small body. Since small cameras with larger grips always get complaints about "pinky" finger without support, and since I agree that thickness of the camera does not attract attention and almost nobody complains about it...why not make the Sigma Quattro H style the other way around?


    Make the grip tall, and the body smaller. The battery could be slimmer and taller, making room for components  / IBIS / EVF on the body. The camera part that is "seen" on hand would be small.

    One problem: would not stand up by itself on a table. Just make a sliding "feet" on the opposing side of the grip - it even could be double duty as a port cover.

  10. 7 hours ago, kye said:

    I definitely notice that people immediately look at you when you raise a camera to your eye...  

    Yep - but not so much when it is a "rangefinder"-esque camera. That's why I prefer it, not because of nostalgia.

    But...no new GXs, no Oly Pen-F II (the E-M5s / E-M10s do not attract too much too), Fuji dumbed down the X-E4 and probably will never put a IBIS on it, the X-Pros are beautiful but kinda big, the Nikon Z30 lack an EVF and IBIS...it is a shame that only Sony makes rangefinder cameras with EVF, IBIS, good af and good video.

  11. 20 hours ago, kye said:

    Scenario 2:

    There aren't updates to the GX or GH line for a while, and this G9 will represent Panasonic putting their sensor in a body that is unnecessarily large, but is shared with another model, and it will have been a cost cutting measure.

    This. Is clear that Panasonic will cut the costs to the max in their M43 line.

    Newer lenses? Reash of the older ones.

    Newer camera? Use the S5II body.

    That's why I think that will never be another GX camera. They think it is not worth it - "smartphones killed it", and maybe they are right.

    A new GX would need a serious investiment in a new body. A bigger battery (since all the new cameras have big batteries - is a problem that Fuifilm have too, and their solution probably will never pair the old small battery with a camera with IBIS), 10-bit video, no record limit (for me a camera of this size could easily keep the 30 min record limit for thermal reasons, but since the others are not limiting...), a better evf...can't see they doing that.

    They even did not made a newer LX100 with all that demand for X100Vs.

  12. And about size: my last mft camera (and the best, loved it) and my current APS-C camera.

    The one on the right have 6.2k open gate 10-bit 4:2:2, in H265 or All-I. 4k60 with a 1.1x crop. 1080p120 fps (did not count the 240fps option because is crap), a huge battery, and PDAF (in fact, the AF works much better than I expected, after the last firmware update).

    Lenses? Yep, the Fuji branded ones are bigger, but not so much. And a Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 is the same size of the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8, even being made for a larger sensor - yep, don't have OIS, but IBIS takes good care of it, and is even much cheaper. The Nocticrons are small, too.

    MFT should be the perfect EDC / travel cameras. Newer lenses should take the Sigma zoom route - ditch the OIS and make a 12-35 f/1.8, or a smaller 2.8. Compact f/3.5 zooms. Pancake primes. Make them cool - just look the X100v lesson.

    But they gone in the opposite direction. 

    Captura de tela de 2023-09-13 14-30-46.png

  13. 5 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

    Keep your little MFT gem! 🙂  @BTM_Pix GX85 with the MF Laowa 17mm F1.8 is tiny, with the Oly 17mm 1.8 even moreso. A7R2 sucks at video quality.  Codec for 4K and colors on the GX85 are so much better, no contest. GX85 Ibis for video smokes the A7Rs stabilisation by a big margin..

    Photos on the A7r2 are of course high resolution FF goodness. But with good light both produce great results. Pixel count on the Sony is more than twice of course, resolution 1.5 as high (pixel per axis). Oly EM10III seems like it is another tiny mft gem and little powerhouse. I might reread Andrews review of it showing off perfect downsampled 4k. Battery life is pretty nice with the Lumix as well. And, it's pretty. I am a great fan of Mft. Now, Panasonic, give us 10bit Pdaf GX and LX cameras.

    I fact...OM Digital could have the best budget camera today if they will. Even just need to make the same thing that they did with the OM-5 - put a superior camera (the E-M1 MK II) in a smaller body (E-M5 MK III).

    Put the EM-5 MK III internals on a E-M10 body, PDAF included, bring back the "full" menus from the E-M10 MK II (could keep the simplified menu for newbies, make it an option), and sell it for $499. $599 even.

  14. 10 hours ago, MrSMW said:

    The perfect unit for me would be the current X100V but with interchangeable lenses such and I’d even consider a zoom like Sigmas 18-50 (27-75) f2.8. Or fixed lens like the one in the LC1 which was what, 28-90 or something?


    What about a X-E4?

  15. I just want that the newest stuff (anamorphic modes, waveforms / vectorscope, Reala film sim, AND FINALLY general tracking for video) would trickle down for the X cameras with the same X-Processor 5.

    But since Kaizen is dead, I guess that Fujifilm will play the old segmentation game.

    Waveforms / vectorscope I guess that could arrive at the X-H2s. Anamorphic modes too, but I did not looked at the resolutions needed.

    Reala...as far as I remember, Fuji is not updating the film simulations in the cameras.

    But general video tracking, would be idiotic not to trickle down to all the newer X cameras. Have hopes to get it in my X-S20 - since is one of the few things that I miss in that camera - but...I bet not.

  16. Looks like a very good camera. Same GH6 sensor with PDAF, but looks like they changed the mode that it worls, and now the DR in low iso is decent. High ISOs, from the lone review that I saw that tested it (Hybrid Shooter), not so much - 1600 is already noisy.

    As most of people here, my desire was a new GX with this tech, but the Panasonic ethos for m43 looks like "minimal investment". Newest lenses are just newer versions of the existing ones with better coatings and a Leica badge, most of the G9II chassis is based from the S5II (even the new bottom grip is the same for both).

    Did not see a GX model of this plataform, not even a G95II. Maybe a G100II for vloggers, with PDAF but no IBIS (to clash with the ZV-E10). 

    Possible, it is - the X-S20, without the EVF bump, is exactly the same size of the GX9. Just put the bigger battery slanted (how it was on the GX7), a decent EVF (could be the 2.36 that everyone uses), and I would be very tempted to go back.

    Or, with the X100v sold out everywhere, a LX100 III with a decent EVF, PDAF and tilt LCD like the X100V. Would bought it in the pre-order (still hunting for a LX100 II in a good price, only way to get parted with my LX100 OG).

  17. My Ulanzi fan just arrived. Must admit, is a cute little thing - all metal, bright little display, and the flow generated is more than I expected.

    And the two questions I have about it were solved:
    - The suction cups will really stick to the back of the cameras? It came with two adhesive stick that you put on the back of the camera, and the suction cups will adhere to that.
    - How it measure the camera temperatue? There is a sensor in the bacl (looks like a infrared one) to mesure the surface temperature.

    Will try to do some teste when I have some spare time.

  18. On 9/2/2023 at 7:59 PM, FHDcrew said:

    Haven't been super active in a while, so I hope you are all doing well 🙂

    Two big reasons I might consider this camera instead of sticking with my Nikon Z6 are:

    1.  10-bit internal

    2.  Internal Gyro Data


    #2 is big for me.  I've realized how convenient gyro stabilization is, at least for me.  Allows me to get a wide range of awesome motion shots while having a convenient shooting experience.  Less weight, less setup time, no need to balance a gimbal or steadicam.  Well...it would be convenient if I had a camera that recorded internally.  I've done some stuff with gyro data on my Nikno Z6 by using a smartphone as a gyro logger.  This works and can work extremely well, but the workflow is a pain because you have to keep track of all the gyro data on your phone and match all of the files, not to mention having one more thing you need to attach to your camera.  The Sony A6700 as well as pretty much all of Sony's recent offerings seem very appealing to me for the sole reason that you can quickly get perfectly synced gyro data without needing any external devices.  You can process this footage in Gyroflow to get a lot of power, and can even use the Gyroflow OFX plugin in Davinci Resolve to get a very streamlined workflow.


    The 10-bit internal is nice too.  Of course a billion cameras now offer that, and that feature is solely convenience-based for me.  I think I could rock the Sigma Contemporary Primes and sacrifice a bit of lowlight for these features.  IDK.  We'll see.

    What app to use to record gyro data on your phone?

  19. About all these hot new cameras (pun intended): I agree that would be much better them to not overheat. And for me is intentional: it is segmentation.

    For instance: the X-S20, the A6700 and both the new A7C have a plastic back panel, behind the LCD. If they really want to help dissipating heat, they could do a metal back panel. Specially in the Fuji case, where you can specifically put a fan there.

    Panasonic also showed in the S5II that you can incorporate a discreet fan without raising the cost.

    It is segmentation. Same thing with the LCD mechanism from the A7RV - solve one for all the tilt / flip debacle, should be standard for all new cameras. Fuji also made a similar solution with the XT100. But...want more, pay more.

    If you want to pay less, you have to deal with the limitations. I could use my 1.0 liter car to tow a heavy trailer? For sure, but will not be a very good experience.

    Not defending the manufacturers, but it is how it works in all markets. Will be this until someone breaks the mold and all need to follow.

  • Create New...