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  1. I don't see what you're basing that intuition/assumption on. There is no equivalence theory to apply here - optics/ray angles don't change based on sensor size. The only impact on sensor size would be using a larger-format lens on a smaller sensor, where some of the rays are thus cropped (don't reach the image sensor), but that's not what we're speaking to here - the Voigtlander is a native lens.
  2. But we're talking about a native MFT lens (Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95), so the relative angle of incidence across the frame will be the same as a FF sensor with a native FF lens of a similarly scaled design.
  3. Vignetting is due to the angle of incidence of light reaching the pixels on a sensor and I can't think of any reason why a smaller sensor would have less oblique angles. In fact, the higher the pixel density the more likely vignetting is to occur. BSI sensors should be less prone to this but to my knowledge neither the G5 or G5s are BSI.
  4. The light-gathering ability wont be the same due to more pixel vignetting from the f/0.95 lens.
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    NX2 rumors

    The rumor sounds crazy, absolutely crazy, but would be awesome if true.
  6. The raws indicate a reduction in read noise rather than an increase in sensitivity. If sensitivity was increased the noise differential would be noticeable well below ISO 12,800. Btw, where did you get the 1.66 figure from?
  7. Dpreview just posted their GH5s review, which includes a full set of High ISO raw stills for their IQ comparison widget. Here are few comps I generated: GH5s vs GH5, ISO 6400, Low-Light, Normalized to Common Image Resolution GH5s vs GH5, ISO 12800, Low-Light Normalized to Common Image Resolution GH5s vs GH5, ISO 25600, Low-Light, Normalized to Common Image Resolution
  8. Regarding what actual low-light improvements have been made to the GH5s sensor (vs just video noise reduction), the best way to suss that out is to look at the raw stills performance compared to its predecessor. Any noise improvement in video which is not also demonstrated in stills performance can only be the result of noise reduction (presuming the predecessor's video processing didn't have its own faults/limitations, such as the need to sub-sample/skip lines due to limited readout performance, which the GH5 didn't have). With that said, here's a comparison from dpreview of the GH5s vs GH5 for ISO 1600 - they don't currently have higher ISOs depicted because they've only done ISO invariance testing so far. Dpreview ISO Invariance Widget, ISO 1600, Normalized to common image resolution And here's a comparison of the base ISO DR: Dpreview ISO Invariance Widget, Base ISO, Pushed +6EV, Normalized to common image resolution
  9. It's because Sony read the sensor out at 1/15 in FF mode on the A7rII, which isn't fast enough to support video frame rates, so it employed line skipping, which throws out both light-gathering ability and sharpness as well (soft video). On the A7rIII Sony reads out the sensor at 1/30, which is fast enough to support video frame rates without needing to toss out rows.
  10. The Sony A7R III has a 42MP sensor vs just 10MP for the GH5S which makes the similar low light performance in 4K video quite mind-bending. How did Sony manage it? Temporal Noise reduction most likely. And that would be from Panasonic's ASIC processing of the video rather than a property of the sensor itself.
  11. Andrew, in the video you demonstrated the Canon 35mm f/2 IS with the Metabones (AF sucked). Did you try that Canon with the MC-11 as well?
  12. Every ISO has a conversion gain, including base ISO. If you read back over Jim's post you'll see him calculate the theoretical conversion gain for "base" ISO 100 on the A7rII.
  13. Jim and I converse all the time. The explanation you quoted from Jim doesn't have direct relevance to the discussion because "dual native ISO" isn't what the name implies - and btw there's no such thing as "native ISO" since conversion gain happens at all ISO levels. Again, it's simply Pany's name for the Aptina technology, which is a dual-gain configuration and has been implemented in multiple sensors prior to the GH5s, from both Sony (A7s, A7rII, A7rIII) and Nikon (D4 and forward). "Dual gain" has been around for a while but it's not implemented in that many cameras, at least those using APS-C and larger sensors. Nikon first implemented on their sensor starting with the D4, and Sony with the A7s. Btw, gain is applied at all ISOs, including base ISO.
  14. Sony has had "dual native ISO" in their sensors going back to the A7s, and it's in the A7r II and A7r III as well. It's a pretty mature technology and was invented by Aptina - you can read the original white paper on it here: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Aptina/DR-Pix_WhitePaper.pdf
  15. The stills performance yields what the sensor's true capabilities are in terms of noise. Video is that same stills noise performance, at least for full-sampled sensors like the GH5/A7s, plus any downsampling for the lower-res modes like HD (which still matches still performance just ideally downsampled, as one would do in PS). The only way video can outperform its equivalent stills performance on a given sensor is with noise reduction, which comes at the expense of detail, and which can be achieved in post-processing from any sensor, just slower because even a GPU can't match the performance of a specialized image processing ASIC in cameras. I suspect Panasonic is doing temporal NR, which is why the locked-down shots without motion look so good.
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