Orangenz

The article says RX100V, the video title is RX100IV, and there doesn't seem to be a clip of either in the video?

I've seen this on several cameras. I think it's more likely to be that you're actually managing to press the go button twice and it takes a second to get around to doing as instructed and stopping. 

13 hours ago, gethin said:

@jonpais, OK!  well I guess I might as well get my head into that before getting any deeper into cinelike d.  

No, havent fiddles with highlight shadow yet, idynam off. Histogram was just slightly to the left of bang in the centre (but I must admit the histogram was very narrow, not evenly spread over the tonal range - I'll double check to see if I messed with tone curves).  the other shot I did just before it was exposed exactly the same, but shooting into the sun and all looks fine - except again for quite a lot of noise in the hair.  ANyhoo, the rest of the shoot was fine so the one curve I need to work on is the learning one

and thanks for the heads up on 10 bit HLG.  For what I do it means cinelike D is still worth exploring. I'll keep HLG for the right project.

If you export your camera settings I can load them up and see whats going on. 

12. Adding a completely irrelevant comment that adds zero calories. eg. Question about a specific camera issue being answered by "I have never used that camera and don't know anything about your problem but you could try buying a different camera". The trick is to find a post that you *can* help with and post *there*. 

7 hours ago, gethin said:

so you're shooting HLG, and then applying leeming's Luts is that right?  Can you use HLG with all the movie settings?  Whats the advantage? (so many questions!)

it was the highest quality 1080 that allowed VFR (whatever that was, I think its 8bit 150 Mbps).  iso 200, stupidly high shutter speed (like 8000th, @f2).  

Few more settings than that... like flat highlight shadow, ires off, idynam off, profile - use cine D for high dynamic range situations. There should be zero noise in that situation - maybe you didn't "slightly" underexpose it, but massively underexposed it. Leeming uses expose to the right for the highlights to avoid that problem and get most dynamic range from the sensor. 

HLG is 10bit so will not have some movie options. 

What camera settings are you using though?  All my 180fps stuff is clean as a stunningly clean thing. 

1 hour ago, Zak Forsman said:

 I also don't see any of the cyan/magenta macroblocking that turned me off from the GH4 and GH5. 

You can shoot 4k 50p in cine-d with a unified LUT to match vlog at 25p 10bit. For the price though one could go external recorder for those shots that required 4k 50p 10bit vlog. 

6 hours ago, AnomalyVideo said:

Hi @jonpais 

Actually, that wasn't zoomed in at all. Here's an example of a video captured at 30fps for a contractor video (sorry to show you guys a bathroom!!) But pay attention to the tile near the shower on the left. Just ugly!!  Especially in motion.

 

That doesn't look normal for the GH5, that's for sure. Can you export your camera settings please and I'll have a look. 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

bullsh*t, S35 is not that much bigger than MFT!!

Mmm yea, 36% wider, not 250%  and the M43 sensor height is 13mm which is more than the cropped 12.5 image. 

 028 for lens, 0:47 for mount view. 

24 minutes ago, gethin said:

Was rather bamboozled by how to get to the timelapse functionality. I had to google it, sheesh.   So does the screen stay on for a whole timelapse?  WHen I left it the viewfinder screen was active and I couldn't seem to turn it off. The camera only lasted 2 hours.  Also did not notice any exposure smoothing function. Kinda assumed this kitchen-sink camera would have something of the sort built in. 

Am I missing some things?

Big knob... on the left side. Turn to time lapse. 

Power saving: electronic shutter might be handy to reduce wear

Screen: This is a bit crazy, but what people normally do is set the monitor/EVF to auto. Then mostly close the monitor screen which turns it off. The EVF will only turn on if you cover the sensor so will also stay off. 2 hours and 20 minutes is the normal 4K recording time of the GH5. Using just jpeg might reduce battery load a bit too. Otherwise one of those plug-in adaptors to Li-ion external would be the way to go. I think @Fritz Pierre has a setup that uses it. 

Exposure smoothing: That sounds like a Lightroom feature or plugin.

Momentary flicker is usually removed with something like “Flicker Free” from Digital Anarchy. They have sales every so often so you can look out for those. Very cool plugin. 

You can try using Manual with Auto ISO. I then add a reducing brightness to an evening shot otherwise you end up not realising the sun has gone down. Don’t forget to turn AutoWB off.

8 hours ago, William Fanelli said:

There is a bug in new firmware (maybe also in older fw). When you record on 256 gb sd cards, record stop when file get 103 gb dimension. With 150 mbps you record 2 hours so  is  not a big problem, but if you record with new 400 mbps codec, record stop after 34 minutes. If someone know how communicate to Panasonic this bug please do it. 

You have not stated what cards you have tried. 

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, but I fill my Panasonic treats with whipped cream. Goes down great at election parties. 

13 hours ago, Orangenz said:

Have noted the Vlog assist dropping. Am investigating. 

 

Factory is onto it.

On 28/09/2017 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Daniel said:

 

Main Cons (I'm being picky here)

• CineD skintones - finding it hard to get it where I want. Looks very odd off the bat. I need to work more on this as V-log isn't always the best profile to use. 
•  

Great write up Oliver!

Have you tried the Leeming Lut One? It goes onto VLog and Cine D so you can colour match between them when you need to do slowmo. There's an update soon for it too. 

I think we can move on from random AFC comments/tests. What is more interesting is "I really wanted such and such shot for this scene and here is what happened". I did 20 minutes of blog style and it was terrific for that. 

Have noted the Vlog assist dropping. Am investigating. 

Really happy with the ease that it edits. Very tempting to use it a lot despite the size. 

On 09/08/2017 at 4:22 AM, Phil A said:

Saw the pictures of your rig on Flickr, nice. Can't wait for after market eye-cups for the GH5 to come out. The LCD viewfinder way makes imho no sense, seeing how the EVF has quite a bit higher resolution (1.6 vs 3.6 mio pixels)

 

This is a good eye-cup, note my suggestion in the jpg for elongating the right side. In other news, there is a smallrig quick release coming soon. Pre-order 50% off at the moment.  

printable eyecup.pdf

29 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Rider? Disingenuous? I am not sure what you are talking about, but I am starting to believe that you also don't know what you are talking about. 

Advising people to buy a card that is not up to spec only because it works for you ?  You should re-read what @philipd wrote:

 

Have you bought a cheaper UHS-II card and see my comments as attacking your purchase? Not at all. If you have the choice, get the V rated card. I've pointed out the inconsistencies elsewhere with what Phil said but also correct in that the standard provides for more functionality such as dual card record.

Anyway, back to what you've been saying. You argue:

• That you have been using V rated cards for 15 years without a single failure
• That if a company in China does something wrong then we fix everything by suing them
• That if V rated cards fail then it doesn't count 

All of this is very silly.

Tell me (us) what card you are running to record the 400Mbps stream, if it copes with dual record. This will be most helpful. 

20 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Again, I might very well be but in the 15 years of using hundreds of SD cards I have never seen a card not supporting its minimum sustained write speed, nor I have met anyone that did. Not even in this forum. 

What I have seen though, is a plethora of people confusing maximum write speeds with minimum write speeds. 

Yes I noticed you added that rider. You're being disingenuous. Just re-read what I've said and look for a good brand not the cheapest brand.

1 minute ago, Don Kotlos said:

I might very well be, but have you ever seen a card that isn't up to is minimum sustained write spec with a system that isn't the bottleneck?  I am curious. 

You must be in a verrrry small bubble. So you have not used SD cards much? If so then just re-read what I've said and look for a good brand not the cheapest brand. I'd do the same with airlines. What goes on behind the scenes is funny stuff. 

8 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Don't confuse the arbitrary speed specs that manufacturers put on their cards with the speed class specification from the SD card association. V90 will be V90, otherwise they either wouldn't be able to use that label, or even worse be liable to very expensive lawsuits. 

Now if the card is V90 one day and it stops working the next, thats a whole different matter. 

Reality is not black and white (in a manner of speaking). Plus I think you live in a bubble that does not include certain countries. You guys lost the argument with the V2 release, mind as well go back to relaying actual performance with the actual cards you have. 

I doubt all V90 cards will be V90. Too easy to add a label. Best to go with a good brand with good QA and memory type. 

44 minutes ago, futur2 said:

Is this the 280MB/s card? Thx

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1275619-REG/sandisk_sdsdxpk_064g_ancin_extreme_pro_uhs_ii_64gb.html 

23 minutes ago, philipd said:

So cameras like the GH5 don't really suffer from motion issues caused by the compression anyway.  

Except you can see it if you look at the individual frames. Of course it's there. The only question is if that distortion is perceptible when playing back at 25fps or whatever.  

25 minutes ago, philipd said:

V90 cards are using the cream of NAND memory

Huh? Some manufacturers will use the best, others will not be. Some use MLC while Pana uses pSLC in their V90. Sandisk, Panasonic, and Toshiba should be good though, as they invented the SD card association. 

On 20/09/2017 at 2:39 AM, philipd said:

We will find out soon enough who is right, I hope I'm wrong as I don't want to pay a premium and replace good memory cards if I don't need to either..  However it was Panasonic instrumental in introducing this new protocol in SD version 5.0 or higher specifically to allow cameras like the GH5 to run at very high bit-rates to SDXC memory cards, as it couldn't be done otherwise.

Regards

Phil

 

As per the picture CInegain put up, the UHS-II (non V rated) cards work fine. I can't test the dual card record function though and it might only work with identical V60 cards. So considering both those points, everyone is right.  

6 hours ago, AaronChicago said:

I'm having one issue that I cannot figure out. The HDMI signal cuts out when I hit record with 6K anamorphic (all bitrates). I've tried it both on my Shogun Inferno and SmallHD 502. 4K anamorphic works fine while sending a signal.

Luckily they've implementing desqueeze in camera but I've always enjoyed using a bigger screen with the GH5.

There was some talk about that with the hdmi standard. 

6 hours ago, lmackreath said:

What would make you choose this over the 4k 60p?..does that extra 50mb and all intra make that much difference to the footage? I cant see myself using 1080p intra when i have the 4k 60p option....

It does make it much easier to edit with. 

9 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Easily to avoid it with the right settings though? Or not?

I wouldn't eat steak for breakfast. I can imagine heaps of situations where I'd use this as is. I can see me on my test video doing a double take and saying something like "wow they really went all out on this" because it is actually really impressive. Also the way focus so smoothly follows the touch screen.