Orangenz

It has only ever been a problem shooting my GH5 unboxing video in 4k. Where I sat down and tried to record 7-14 minute 4k clips in a 36C+ room. It is software limited to 5min so needs a pause after that. In all other shooting situations that pause happens naturally here in chilly nz. I adjust the LCD screen away from the back of the camera so that helps. I did the unboxing using an external feelworld monitor which probably didn't help battery life. 

13 minutes ago, aldolega said:

Native works only if the GH5's autofocus works well enough for your needs, or if you shoot exclusively locked-off shots with a fixed focus distance (sit-down interviews etc).

Otherwise, you will be manually focusing, and the native lenses kind of suck for manual focusing.

Manual mode, touch to AF or AF unlock. Much easier and pretty important in 4k. 

13 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I thought to myself "I quite fancy an RX100 IV. Genuinely pocketable, vloggable, a bit of slo-mo (which I don't really have), slog2 so it can be pushed a bit more.....and I can have a play about to see if I can get my hardware controller to be Sony compatible too"

Easy.

And then I started the, "Mmmm....the mark V though, better IS, touch screen"

My v5 has neither of those. Is there a v6 out with them?

I don't think there's a better compact and the line has stayed at the top for what, 6 years now? The video colour comes right with the eoshd settings. 

For video note that it overheats after 5 min, short battery life, no (or very little) stabilisation. But super camera though. And I mean S UU PP EERRRR

On 2017-6-17 at 3:01 PM, Orangenz said:

No problem with the main monitor here but any footage at all (ie. not GH5 related) now appears zoomed in as you describe on the secondary 1080 monitor. 

My two monitors where running different frequencies (60 and 50Hz). Unenabling then reconnecting to the 2nd monitor fixed it so all working well again both at 60Hz. 

On 2017-6-16 at 0:25 AM, Linus N said:

Hey fellow forumites!

As I'm sure all eager GH5 owners have seen, Adobe came out with version 11.1.2 of Premiere Pro CC with added support for GH5 10bit files. YAY! Or at least that was my facial expression until I got into Premiere only to realize my Program window only shows a zoomed view of the top left corner of my footage. Regardless of 1080p/4K footage, sequence resolution or other applied scaling the issue is there. Come on, Adobe... really?

I have no solution other than downgrading (again) to 11.0.X to get my files working "properly" again.

Curious what other people's experiences are, and if anyone has a solution for the top left crop.

For now I've moved this particular project over to Resolve 14 which handles the files just fine.

No problem with the main monitor here but any footage at all (ie. not GH5 related) now appears zoomed in as you describe on the secondary 1080 monitor. 

On 2017-6-16 at 4:18 AM, AKED-M said:

I have a question: I am using a 128 GB Sandisc Class 10 U3 R95 - W 60 MB/s and a 128 GB Transcend Class 10 U3 R90 MB/s card. Both have never failed neither in the GH4 nor the GH5.

Now the initial question was:

When I was taking pictures of birds in flight recently, https://flickr.com/photos/150332016@N06/sets/72157681824825243 I ran into problem with the buffering when taking burst shots with jpeg and raw. There were new birds coming but the buffer was full and the GH5 busy wigh writing to the SD card, before I could take pictures again) The camera was set, so that it filled one card and then use the other once the first is full. Now my question is: How do I distribute the files best, so that the buffer is not filled too fast? Jpeg in one and raw in the other? Also, if I use a UHSII card in one slot, would I then send jpeg and raw to the same slot? I think I am not into the future 400 mbit of a future firmware upgrad, so for video, my current 4 cards with 128 GB and 95 mbits are fast enough, so if a faster UHSII card writes pictures faster on the card, this would allow to empty the buffer faster and to shoot (burst pictures) longer. So how should the files be distributed for fastest writing on the card? Thanks.

Then I made a frw tests: When using H or M in burst mode, the GH5 takes about 70 pictures (jpeg and Raw) in about 10 seconds and then needs 50-55 seconds to empty the buffer. No matter if jpeg and raw is written on one or separated the writing process on two cards, no matter if H or M mode. It is the same.

In L mode it takes about 2 Minutes until the buffer is full and over 200 pictures are taken in that time. Again, it needs 50-55 seconds to clear the buffer.

I think I need a UHS II V60 or V90 card, to empty the buffer faster, right? Or any other possibility?

Looks like the Sandisk extreme empties the buffer at the same rate as my extreme pro. 1 minute. I'd say the UHS II is the way to get faster yes. Currently the Sandisk version only claims to be V30 so for video at 400Mbps that would not be useful at all. It still empties the buffer twice as fast though, so I'm guessing 30 seconds. 

14 hours ago, Stab said:

A short comedy film with the GH5. Very heavy grading, but still holds up very good IMO.

I don't know what caused the person who filmed that to fall on his head and damage his brain so much that he thought filming that was a good idea. Maybe the same insanity that Kathy Griffin had? Utterly insensitive and stupid. 

14 hours ago, jonpais said:

That particular shirt is pretty bright. I didn't try grading the clip, but I can tell just by looking at it that that particular shirt is ridiculously ETTR resistant.  For the record, up until only very recently, I'd been underexposing all my shots without being aware of it, so I confess to being a little gung-ho about ETTR. If only the G85 had just a touch more dynamic range! I'd really like to do a comparison between the Lumix and my X-T2 someday.

I thought there were two sort of definitions of ettr though; one having the whole waveform pushed to the right and the other, at the same time, that you use the highlight clip level to make sure you preserve highlights from clipping. That and the long essay about exposure I posted does not preclude lifting or dropping problematic areas. The whole point is still those I mentioned earlier: drop the whole image and lifting in post dramatically increases noise problems and reduces the dynamic range of the image. Over exposure clips highlights and under studio lighting can reduce contrast. With those basics in mind the actual art of finessing the final product has the best chance of getting somewhere. My first 10bit vlog test on the GH5 was shooting a person against a sky. Really had to underexpose the person to keep the sky in check and still looked ok lifting him back up. We're living in the blessed age for imaging for sure.

14 hours ago, Shirozina said:

'Supporting' the codec is not the same thing as being able to play it back smoothly when you have a timeline loaded with effects and edits - transcoding / optimised media / proxies will still be a necessary part of the workflow for most people.

You're having troubles with it?

1 minute ago, Dude_ger said:

You re on mac or pc?

I have the same problem on pc, only with the h265 files...

Yes that's the 6kphoto h265 video file. win10

Premiere still not quite there on ingesting the 6k photo files. Night vision!

47 minutes ago, Axel said:

This is pathologic pixelpeeping anyway, isn't it?

Quoted for truth. And as a famous person said:

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But the fact of the matter is, the G85 is a great camera for the money, content is king, and I wouldn’t get my panties all tied up in a bunch over exposure.

It was worth it in terms of pointing out the bleeding obvious to those who won't care anyway that underexposing degrades a digital signal unnecessarily. It's really very similar to the recording scale on any digital recorder. There's usually a triangle indicator about 18 dB down and this is the sweet spot for audio. If you look at an ETTR histogram it maps the same distribution - max dynamic range.

Also a windows update sitting there. 

All seems to work. Still doesn't like me loading up 6 osiris luts one after the other. 

12 hours ago, SuperSet said:

Our long national nightmare is over. Adobe has released the Premiere update for the GH5.

And which nation are you dreaming in? :D

9 hours ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

@Orangenz So it’s ok for Jon to state his opinion without any images and not even having the camera, but I have to show proof?

Jon didn’t mention the GH5 and neither did I in my reply to him. I was talking in general with my experience with Panasonic cameras. And as many others have stated before me they are getting better color when underexposing a little bit. Not better DR, not better noise performance but color. This is my experience as well but I have not done any extensive testing.

Both @kidzrevill and Shane has done extensive testing and I agree with their findings. If you don’t agree that’s fine, but you should accept that there are different opinions on this subject, and if you believe ETTR is the only way then please do a test like Shane did and post it here.

@jonpais v-log should off course only be used when you the time to do it properly.

So you're just making stuff up? Waste of space. And then you resort to strawman arguments. You probably are kidz for all I know. 

30 minutes ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

@jonpais I think it's a little more complicated than that. What really matters is what you expose for, skin tones, skies etc. And it's really difficult to get it spot on without a light meter and a monitor as Curtis mentions in the video. It's a lot harder to expose v-log than cine D with just the camera. 

I mess up the exposure to often when I shoot, but I agree with @kidzrevil that the colors look better when they are slightly underexposed, and corrected in post. 

You've probably seen it before but I'm really curios to hear your thoughts on this test by Shane Hurlbut? 

http://www.thehurlblog.com/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh4-vlog-l-latitude-test-cinematography-education/

 

 

A link to some of your own underexposed GH5 footage and then corrected in post would be the obvious way to go here. 

Another good reminder to expose to the right to avoid noise in the shadows. 

On 2017-5-27 at 9:56 AM, Mehmet A said:

Hi. I bought the Freeworld FW760 today and all seems fine, however I cannot get playback from a GH4; my camera says 'TV output in progress' when I try to playback footage I shot.

Could anyone help me with this? Much appreciated.

Hopefully you found out that the control dial controls it. up-play/pause, down stop. that sort of thing.

2 hours ago, buggz said:

 

Oh, and the files in your link, do not unzip, corrupt?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j6p4adbm983p435/AABq-0tGLVRzqRDHnAufINjIa?dl=0

I'm using the Orangenz

That link isn't mine. It from Jn by the looks.

17 hours ago, boxtree said:

Hi,

just wondering what picture profiles/settings people are using on the GH5, and why? 

Hard to know where you're coming from. Have a GH5 and wondering if there's something special you should know? 

Most of the profiles look really nice. Natural in particular. Auto White balance seems to work fine if you give it a moment to register.

Some people dial down sharpness and noise reduction.

I like moving the black level in Premiere up just a little (0.4) but I'd do that on any camera.

Vlog-L in 10 bit is amazing.

Cine-D now looks good too straight up (it seemed a bit off on the GH4) and there's even some clever luts that turn it into Rec.709

http://www.leeminglutone.com/#howtoettr 

http://www.leeminglutone.com/downloads/Leeming_LUT_One_Panasonic_GH5_Setup.pdf 

19 hours ago, Stab said:

I can lower the microphone levels by -10. This is still way too loud for the music during parties. When I put the limiter as well, then it is usually just fine. Still some small distortion here and there.

With the GH3 and GH4, I could just leave the mic at -20 and lower the input levels, or even take the microphone out and record with the onboard mics. I remember I put the GH3 at -8 during loud music events and it was fine. Now with the GH5, it is recording so loud at -12 that I almost can't make out anymore which song has been recorded. Just a massive track full of distortion.

It may well be just way better microphones. They are also used as part of the onboard sound cancellation system when using external mics. An external mic rated to 120dB is probably handy for parties. The TM-2X has a -15 pad that allows for this (for example). 

14 hours ago, TwoScoops said:

B&H lists this on the GH5 page-

Continuous ShootingUp to 12 fps at 20.3 MP
Up to 30 fps at 18 MP
Up to 60 fps at 8 MP

Are these RAW or JPEG only? I think the GH4 could shoot 10 or 12 fps RAW.

Attached spec sheet. 12 fps raw. 

14 hours ago, TwoScoops said:

Also to the guys who've used it, is the EVF improved over the GH4?

It's rather nice. I do recommend checking it out in a store. Get someone to film you when you first look through it. 

GH5_Leaflet.pdf

46 minutes ago, A Furry Peanut said:

Oh I actually never knew that, I'll keep that in mind the next time I edit

More just the export stage.

10 minutes ago, A Furry Peanut said:

2 screens.

and no my denoiser is at the bottom, I will start moving them to the top

Also note that Redgiant hardware requirements say that running two screens on a HD project requires 4GB of video memory. So try unplugging a screen.

4 minutes ago, A Furry Peanut said:

3.5gb video card memory, for this specific project I used Red Giant's DeNoiser III and Universe. Project is 1080p at 29.97 fps filmed with canon 70D and t7i. 

Trying to find out how many screens.. 

Can you go into the effects panel and make sure that nenoiser is at the very top of the effects list, ie. above lumetri

22 minutes ago, A Furry Peanut said:

Nvidia GeForce GTX 970, Intel Core i7-4790k, 32gb ddr3 ram, 64-bit Windows 10. I only have Red Giant's Universe and Trapcode Suite installed.  

Video card memory? What plugins are you using on this specific project? Screens and resolution of project?