Emanuel

Went to Manchester for the firs time (at 60!) and it's very photogenic - I will definitely be returning (with a tripod).
 

As far as the FX30 goes - well it's an excellent little camera. Very easy to use, produces a nice image and with the latest update even has shutter angle! A few of the lower light shots needed some NR adding in Resolve, but nothing outrageous. For the video above I didn't use Cineprint. CST, NR, Balance, Contrast, A dab of Film Look Creator then out through the DVR Kodak 2383 D55 LUT, via a CST to Cineon.

I assume the old Canon D Mark II was 8-bit, right? It was used to shoot this (which was actually a clothing advert masquerading as a short film; the trailer was released and the other segments are available on Vimeo but no full-length film was ever released):
 

This music video was shot on the 5D II, still looked good today 
 
 

I don't see anything wrong on this release TBH...
Only lacks 4K 120fps.
But, you have no time limit if you need. Promising dynamic range on FF small and lightweight form factor.
5.9K recording from HDMI + anamorphic 3536x2656/50p there, affordable price...
Well, I even think I will be tempted myself to buy it, one of these days ; ) After all, it will match the inventory of fine glass for my 6K FF Blackmagic camera too!

I am not sure i understand what kind of movie you  actually have in mind. I am with you that due to the recent streaming wars the market is oversaturated at the moment and this boom is over but on the other hand my watchlist is growing longer and longer with great films and series.
And of course that's not the fault of the EOSHD Forum - but the forum has been a great documentation of the change that has happened in the recent years.

We wanted democratisation of the art of filmmaking not so much the business of it.
It is important in the business end to always have demand outstrip supply. When anyone can pick up a cheap piece of kit and go and shoot adverts, then you have a problem.
Evidently not everyone can pick up a cheap piece of kit and shoot something artistically interesting, so it's still of value to do that.
The problem with that however is that you have to be very fortunate to make any money doing so.
The film industry has put group-think, profits and franchise filmmaking before creative interest, and is now struggling with an unappealing product that is watered down and too much in abundance, i.e. mediocrity in creative terms now passes for the gold standard as long as it has a high production value and gets made by one of the big streaming channels.
It doesn't grab people's attention in a world that is very demanding on one's time and attention.
This isn't the fault of the EOSHD Forum btw.
There's the technology side which is causing the supply and demand problem in the low-end of production and the lukewarm content, oversupply of material killing the high-end of production.

If you were a 22 years old vlogger, you would buy FX30. Not because its a better camera, but because you've seen it in hand of many of other vloggers you are trying to replicate their style of work. Sony marketing has established a collective belief that if you wanna do video, you've got to use Sony. You can't beat a better marketing with better IBIS. 

I can't help but feel panasonic didn't do anything wrong here. They had a small announcement, so they didn't hype it. The only hype was the outlandish rumors a bunch of people started throwing around. There was no reason to believe there would be a big cinema announcement... if panasonic had a big announcement, they would have hyped it themselves.
What we got was a bunch of firmware updates, a refresh of a low end camera, and a pretty cool new compact lens. I'd actually love their new 18-40 for backpacking trips. Again, if they had indicated in the slightest that there would be a major announcement, that would be a different story.
Kind of amazing if people get disappointed that the thing they made up didn't happen. 

Not always. If the one who leaks the specs is a photographer who has access to pre-production unit, would exaggerate about the experience, like "AF is two generation ahead of the competition". You know its probably not true, but you know why he would make that statement. That's different from a bullshitter that think sensor resolution determines the price, or a single model changes overall market share in a meaningful way, and does it instantly! 

...aren't all camera rumors written by children?

Some of these rumors are written by a child I assume

Yes this video so absolutely incredible haha

Another vote for Camera Conspiracies. 
Doesn’t get everything right but he’s having fun and trying. Transparent and honest and not afraid to make fun of himself. Very refreshing in the 2024 Douchtube space. He will take a theory and go out and shoot to test it. 
 
I’m tired of camera reviews and gear videos but I watch these 5 channels pretty consistently and find inspiration here. Some thoughts below. 

Camera Conspiracies 

Kyle McDougall

GxAce 
Stefano Federico
Ed Prosser 
 
What drives me crazy these days is the lack of originality and this insane copycat culture. A trend will start and all these people jump on the craze and suddenly it’s everywhere. 
 
Over using promist and “cinebloom” filters. Low saturation and washed out grading to replicate film. Too much film grain added. Nostalgic for an era many of these gen Z never experienced. 
 
Holding the lav mic or transmitter in their hand while filming themselves. Using an old school handheld mic to be ironic and different. 
 
Neon tube lights behind them at their butcher block workbench desk from Home Depot. Then cutting to close up shots with the plastic engineering mat desk protector. 
 
It’s just gotten so, so boring to hear people read the camera specs to me off the website with no original thinking or unique take on any of it. 

Simply hilarious...
So actual... : ) This usual (un)suspect is actually more often brilliant than not ;- )

@eatstoomuchjam Nice to know more about you and your insights, much appreciated indeed : ) and thanks for your findings :- )
Still wondering about it, though then:
https://www.amazon.in/Cooling-Adjustable-Universal-Streaming-Outdoor
No idea why that silly light anyway : D
 

They're all pretty bad/cringeworthy now, but sure - here's one where you can see me confused by the Osmo Raw.
 
Apparently airflow matters a lot.  While it ran for about 13 minutes the other day and merely felt warm to the touch, I set it up by the window of my house today.  The house is about 25C inside, but there's no breeze like there was by the river aside from it being a bit warmer.  After 12:10 of recording ProRes 120p, the BlackMagic app stopped recording due to high temperature.  When I picked up the phone, it was uncomfortably hot and so was the CF adapter.
So rolling long takes at indoor concerts doesn't seem like it'll be a thing!

These guys already have it on small form factor:
https://www.youtube.com/@BACKBONEca/videos
 
Pity no option for the best of them (Insta360 Ace Pro) too so far...

These guys already have it on small form factor:
https://www.youtube.com/@BACKBONEca/videos
 
Pity no option for the best of them (Insta360 Ace Pro) too so far...

Simply hilarious...
So actual... : ) This usual (un)suspect is actually more often brilliant than not ;- )

Listen Marty, I will be very straightforward and friendly as always with you.
1 - Yes, I am not upset.
2 - Life is well beyond art, filmmaking, whatever.
3 - I admit people can be lot of times committed with creating beauty and all that stuff.
4 - But admit you too : ) when you have "gazillions" (as you call it : ) of concerns (let alone private/personal/family life... I brought a 94-year old aunt, like a mother to me, from hospital today where she was with a multilobar pneumonia all week long in the same year I've lost my father just in less than a minute) on keeping your business running up where you need many people to help you in your team... you probably are less focused or even don't give a damn for deep discussions on this or that aspect of aesthetics or technique or even some other angle.
5 - Do I praise a smartphone look? Have I ever purchased an iPhone yet? (a rhetorical interrrogation to respond some other)
6 - They have delivered ProRes from an external device recording, Log and now 4K 120fps.
7 - It's not where 4K 50p/60p distinguishes from 120fps because they actually do (for some reason there's a "p" versus "fps" there ; )
8 - I wonder then on their new thermal management which claims to be 2 to 2.5x superior now.
9 - That's where I am focused. I won't change the world, unfortunately. Apple or pure marketing other than electing the wrong one to the White House which is actually prone to bring some effective difference to our world instead wherever we belong to... phew, that is, everything else doesn't bother me at all.
10 - That said, I think of 4K 120fps on mobile side without overheating as an extra layer of income. When your team stands as your primary way of thought. So, not because of a high life standard or alike. But operating in a complex industry like this one digital has brought nowadays, any open gate for increasing our chances of a survival suit is an oxygen breath.
 
And remember:
I) The best camera is not that cinematic one but the one you're able to bring with you when you'll need to ; )
II) Digital has fiercely this meaning too.
 
Probably why me and @eatstoomuchjam, who is the same of those other threads cine-like related but also praises miniaturization after all, both share here the same pages of this thread.
 
- EAG :- )

Simply hilarious...
So actual... : ) This usual (un)suspect is actually more often brilliant than not ;- )

Simply hilarious...
So actual... : ) This usual (un)suspect is actually more often brilliant than not ;- )

Anything pales in the light of tragedy and some things give us comfort in harsh times, sometimes opportunity. For me it was the GX85 which helped me to get through and to cope. I used to carry it with me every day, not around my neck but in my backpack. I mean, Roger Deakins wouldn't carry his camera around the neck after all!:) My kindest thoughts to you and your aunt, dear Emanuel. I am sorry about your dad. I hope you can find more and more comfort day by day in your friends and your art and the positive things around you. Please forgive my harsh tone and words. best, Marty

Listen Marty, I will be very straightforward and friendly as always with you.
1 - Yes, I am not upset.
2 - Life is well beyond art, filmmaking, whatever.
3 - I admit people can be lot of times committed with creating beauty and all that stuff.
4 - But admit you too : ) when you have "gazillions" (as you call it : ) of concerns (let alone private/personal/family life... I brought a 94-year old aunt, like a mother to me, from hospital today where she was with a multilobar pneumonia all week long in the same year I've lost my father just in less than a minute) on keeping your business running up where you need many people to help you in your team... you probably are less focused or even don't give a damn for deep discussions on this or that aspect of aesthetics or technique or even some other angle.
5 - Do I praise a smartphone look? Have I ever purchased an iPhone yet? (a rhetorical interrrogation to respond some other)
6 - They have delivered ProRes from an external device recording, Log and now 4K 120fps.
7 - It's not where 4K 50p/60p distinguishes from 120fps because they actually do (for some reason there's a "p" versus "fps" there ; )
8 - I wonder then on their new thermal management which claims to be 2 to 2.5x superior now.
9 - That's where I am focused. I won't change the world, unfortunately. Apple or pure marketing other than electing the wrong one to the White House which is actually prone to bring some effective difference to our world instead wherever we belong to... phew, that is, everything else doesn't bother me at all.
10 - That said, I think of 4K 120fps on mobile side without overheating as an extra layer of income. When your team stands as your primary way of thought. So, not because of a high life standard or alike. But operating in a complex industry like this one digital has brought nowadays, any open gate for increasing our chances of a survival suit is an oxygen breath.
 
And remember:
I) The best camera is not that cinematic one but the one you're able to bring with you when you'll need to ; )
II) Digital has fiercely this meaning too.
 
Probably why me and @eatstoomuchjam, who is the same of those other threads cine-like related but also praises miniaturization after all, both share here the same pages of this thread.
 
- EAG :- )