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Glenn, in my usual condescend tone addressed to you (sorry, couldn't resist!), no idea if I must say I really do like this post of yours or not... LOL Something I know though, even when I am in doubt or I disagree with you, you still are one of my fav readings over here ;-) E :-)

reverently Man, chill out. You tend to freak out when people contradict your posts : ) Did I say it won't? I hinted that I don't believe it. A bit different. In a reverently distinct tone, someone else is already logical, why pal? Because me and you, we are his hosts or for a sort of colloquial paternalism upside down your posts along this thread express instead?! Funny you fail to offer the same behavior towards the camera maker when you don't appreciate the announcement... LOL ; ) Reminds me the Mavic drone you ended to fly : D BTW and following you now... Does Andrew know more than me or you? C'mon... wishful list is a wishful list :-D Actually, I wrote that would be a "welcome update to the latest one instead" so quite the opposite what you're inferring from my words. I am always used to read your B&W posts whenever any launch is made, before the product reaches the shelves. Your run-n-gun love dictates much more FUD than useful solutions. Problems don't pay the bills, learning harder the craft does ; ) There's no free soup ; )) No AF upgrade can save us when not! hehe Sorry mate but you're invariably too much stubborn on your (techie) criticism when anything gives you absence of total control about ;-) That's what it is, that's what I see in your usual 'but'(s) : ) Time to also share some doubts on the choices of your own, because your intended certainty you seem to look for applies enough predictability there as well :-)

Reason why you're also right : ) I love to quote Nils Bohr for such cases: 'The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.' As much as Coppola's choice towards GH2 is completely out of tune for many pros out there. Means digital has changed this medium. Deeper than people out of these boards tend to want to believe.

Under motion picture industry perspective, no. The fact is you can mimic any one of the big guys there in much more than 50% of circumstances though. I guess this is where reality fits there. IMO I think they are going through the spot pretty well on that one.

Luke, they want to firmly send a message these devices are at same level of those used by the big guys. It works. I recall when I was in the €103.000,00 F900/F900R camp... That's all! (E :-)

Nothing this won't solve... : D http://ambient.de/en/product_custom_cat/Timecode-en/ Sorry mate but you gave me a chance to debunk certain myths any sort of FUD (even that one involuntarily) can erroneously make : ) to some uneducated minds lurking over here (believe me, they live! Carpenter's was right! LOL) No trouble other than lack of IBIS will piss over the parade, once my pre-order does overcome it. Not even the extra $400 (since VLog L is $500 included) tax did it ;-)

So does banding for sure, so go external recording 'cause beyond 10-bit only solid high bitrate can end to help : ) Turn off AF continuous or/and use editing in order to prevent such hunting. Use tripod and slider old school or then IBIS, a gimbal or yet any other software (there is also hardware*) workaround to fix any shaky hands :-) *

Really? Who says so? Rumors spread on web? In any case, a combo should somehow mean a sort of match no? I'd rather tend to call a welcome update to the latest one instead...

At 8-bit for video, yes.

It will come. Sooner or later but will come... :-) Certain PR reps make us to feel children, uneducated or retarded... Make a triple pick LOL

David, my English pops up as foreign language so maybe non-native English may explain it? I guess under-X competitions bring that inaccuracy or misunderstanding? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship Hey BTW perhaps other English speakers can join for a hand to someone always willing to improve and learn :-)

On native ISO2500 or even higher, for sure because GH5 will always show less than any GH5S value. Doesn't necessarily more than 12 stops. But as you said, we'll know very soon.

Finally, I'm reading now someone to firmly concur my POV on topic, already expressed earlier in these pages. I could just diverge on the idea they don't matter to lose GH5 sales when I actually believe they're pointing their business decision only in order to collect much more money into their own pocket, not exactly the best to their customers' bank account. Sure, there's no charity organization over here. Takes for both sides as well. It is what it is. This won't put me out to have pre-ordered the GH5S as the best cinema camera available for the price, but doesn't let me the part of fool to play either :-)

Sure, as much as a billionaire will miss anything if only millionaire... : D I recall when people were used to shoot on film, besides the fact I concur noise can look very filmic too, Blackmagic noise @ low light included.

Well, isn't it the same thing...? LOL (under means up to a certain value as much as to say a teenager is under 19 or a camera under $10K can cost anything 'under' $10,000 included... I must confess certain posts fully puzzle me :-D) And no, the ISO12800 comes directly from the OP's video description. Wanna be picky? Let's be 100% accurate then. Under 100% is too little ;-)

Better to leave it stuck on 2500 going with the GH5S... :-D

Which one...? All of them as answer is not valid. 2nd question: And at what ISOs? ;-)

Life is a bitch. You ain't virgin anymore so no matter what, people will never forget the way they met you(r noviciate) for first time ; ) If you expose to the right, you'll struggle to see the infamous noise your nightmares warn you about :-)

David, nice scope you have on topic. I thought that had been written by me (except the fact you left the REDs outside), can you imagine? My finest vote would end on Blackmagics anyway. They fully deserve it! @IronFilm

They will keep their GH5 model on high. That was their strategy and will work.

Hope they had addressed such problems on that one.

[PS] Well, I see such low light technology brings a new aesthetics approach... The question is if that's good or not under this particular perspective. Night life all shot in the same way is... boring to say the least.

http://www.uavexpertnews.com/2018/01/introducing-the-evo-drone-from-autel/ https://www.pdnonline.com/gear/drones/autel-robotics-prepping-mavic-killer-compact-photo-drone/ https://www.autelrobotics.com/evo/

Here's more GH5S footage shot under ISO12800: O

Hey Don, I've just been trying to be silent on that one before to end crucified by the usual Sony boys, no more no less ;-)