Eric Calabros

On 10/31/2021 at 11:48 PM, androidlad said:

Sony Semiconductor manufactured the Z9 sensor

And you have no source for that.

16 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

500Mbit in 1 bit per pixel 12:1 compression for DCI 4K 60p. Which could mean 4K/24p cinema at under 250Mbit!!

Its bitrates at 12:1 is ideal for me, but does RED let them use it? I mean if they let Nikon do it, everybody else is going to ask their green light. If this raw is edit-friendly as intoPIX claims, RED would feel threatened. We think a giant like RED shouldn't be worried about hybrid camera market, but they don't think like us.

57 minutes ago, cookietub said:

How do you know this? Source, please

https://www.nikon-image.com/products/mirrorless/lineup/z_9/features04.html

Ok, I want this RAW, RIGHT NOW!

High Efficiency raw size is LESS than size of high quality Jpeg!

They have licensed the raw technology from a company called intoPIX. Its kinda a surprise, because their new raw technology announced just one month ago!

Here is what they call TICO-RAW:

https://www.intopix.com/tico-raw

Waveform monitor comes with firmware update.

who would have thought the first still camera maker that introduce internal Prores HQ and Prores RAW will be the same company everybody were saying "not serious about video", and not those companies that have been in Cinema camera business for decades.

3 minutes ago, androidlad said:

There's no such thing as "percentage of a second".

Of course there is. Your camera is blind to the events happening "between the frames".

4 minutes ago, androidlad said:

120fps is not the shutter speed, you can use 1/4000s shutter speed to shoot 120fps and every frame will be pin sharp.

And you only cover 3% of a second with that combination of fps and shutter speed.

120 fps is probably a 2x2 binned raw converted to HEIF. Nikon has done that before; their binned raws in D850 were soft, had some artifacts (only visible when zoomed in), but were clean in high ISO. Enough quality for social media.

What most people forget about capturing the right moment with speay and pray is the shutter speed. If you need 1/1000s to freeze a moving subject, even at 120fps you only get 120s of one milliseconds. So you only cover 12% of a second! 

4 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Am certain the pro sports photographers on the sideline at the next Winter Olympic Games won't be wastefully spitting out images at 120fps. Just because a camera can do it, doesn't mean you must.

But you can blame Sony for this spec wars. Now everybody is trying to deliver just higher numbers.

Just now, ntblowz said:

8k60p! They definitely going all out!

 

Love that monitor tilting design too! Wish more camera can do that.

I doubt thats "internally".

3 hours ago, androidlad said:

Resolution 8208x5472, pixel size 4.386μm, high dynamic range mode readout time 2ms, high speed mode readout time 1ms, same readout speed for both video and stills, double stacked back illuminated CMOS sensor

Read out speed is 4ms. Slightly faster than A1.

It can't be useful for any pro project, but many pros would love to use it. At least somebody is thinking out of the box in the industry. 

I tested cinematic mode and it was better than I expected and instantly realized 98% of the users have no idea how to extract the most of its creative potential.

You read too much into it. Apple as corporation is addicted to high profit margins, so they have to sell expensive iPhones. But they're struggling to convince people they still need to spend $1200 on a phone, while Chinese brands with half the price can do 90% of the job. Apple is facing the same problem Japanese camera makers has been faced for years: the "good enough" dilemma. The only thing that will force me to upgrade my flagship Chinese smartphone, is a dead battery! And I'm not alone in this.

And by the way, adding Prores to codec options of a phone, is not innovation. While I understand the decision, its sign of a big failure of this industry that couldn't finally implement a solution optimized for mobile devices. We have super powerful SoCs consuming only 3 watts in a hour, but have to use an ancient codec designed for ancient ASICs. 

I want to be a troll for a moment and comment RIP Sony, but I resist. 

10 hours ago, herein2020 said:

@newfoundmass 

Additionally, XLR was designed from the ground up to be low noise and high quality; I can't say the same for USB.

Most of us are not doing any Hollywood level project.. my mic is always 20 cm away from my camera.. how much noise may I get in that distance?

However, have you checked Tascam TM-250U mic? The output is already digital in this case. You can plug it to your mac, to your iPhone, to your Android phone.. but not your mirrorless camera! 

https://tascam.com/us/product/tm-250u/feature

7 hours ago, kye said:

Audio is significantly more important than image, and yet camera companies basically go "we're not going to use audio pre-amps that cost $80c more - instead we'll make the customer spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars to buy external audio interfaces / recorders and spend time in post syncing the audio on every project".

They even could create an open standard for USB mic input, but didn't. XLR is really ancient for this "mobility and convenient" world. 

If the only option is copying this huge Sony mechanism.. I'm afraid its not practical for mirrorless still camera.

Their user base is still far bigger than Sony. Its not about Sony users selling all their gears and switch. Its about keeping their own customers who are not doing video seriously...yet.

"First camera company to drop the mechanical shutter."

Thats not true. Unless you mean the only "full frame" camera without mechanical shutter. And even with that clarification, its not an innovation. Without very high speed read out, removing the mechanical shutter is just prioritizing the convenience of the producer over convenience of the customer. 

9 hours ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Or it is a new kind of programmed obsolence - again, using TV sets as example, now there are some initiatives to "true cinema image"...which marketing will promote as the new cool thing, to make people buy the new trend.

Whenever I change any of my relatives TVs settings to these new "true cinema" modes and explain to them why its important, they look at me like they understand and accept the change; but next time I visit and check the TV again I see it's returned to Standard or Dynamic 😂.

f/2 on this sensor should be like f/5.6 on full frame. Are we getting f/5.6 DoF? 

Well everybody is buying Sony sensors.. its like saying there is no differences between android phones because the cpu inside all of them is made by TSMC!

A1 sensor has its own downsides.. the big amount of data it handles has moved the noise floor. Z7ii is now the cleanest high resolution senor in ILC market. Top notch quality is kinda originality. There is a chance they apply some tweaks they used for Z7ii to A1 sensor. Also there is a chance its not Sony-made at all. Actually its Sony semi that is losing its uniqueness. First Quad pixel AF introduced by Omnivision, highest density sensor, best in class in-sensor HDR, dual ISO at any exposure, deep trench isolation, and many other features are all developed and delivered by Samsung.