Eric Calabros

48 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

I saw that they're 14-bit raw

I believe 120 mode is 12 bit.

21 minutes ago, androidlad said:

Early testers commented on the dynamic range to have taken a "slight but noticeable" hit

If its noticeable its not slight. Again, its new for us, but its not new in CMOS sensor industry. Global shutter is usually capped at almost 12 stop DR. With smaller pixel will be even worse. Even Chinese are making them. But the question is why they didn't use the hybrid solution that a single sensor can use both rolling shutter for maximum quality, and global shutter for speed. They have lots of patents for that solution. 

Famous Sony footnotes kicks again:

Sync speed with "External" flash is 1/500. With base ISO of 250, its the same as 1/200 with ISO 100.

4 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Sony doesn't care for overheating. This one shoots 120fps at 24MP, but for only 1.5-1.6 seconds or something.

Making a CPU with state of the art node doesn't make a PR fenzy, "World's first" in sensor tech, does. They really really want to show they're leader in sensor tech, all else is secondary. 

10 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

4k120 without crop

Its pixel binned at 120. Sensor can do full res 120, but the CPU is the bottleneck.

11 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

they just laid the foundation for the future sensor tech.

They did it in machine vision few years ago. Its a refined scaled version of that. 

23 minutes ago, wolf33d said:

4K120p 10 bit. Still no 4K240p

Camera Conspiracies will address that in new video. 

That 61mp Sony sensor is noisier that it should be without even being stacked and nobody knows why. A1 sensor is better and there will be no crop in 8k. But I guess its not for sale. 

Imagine this applied by camera processor with accelerated hardware for this specific effect. 

2 hours ago, MrSMW said:

I’m still trying to decide if this feature is a gimmick or not because of course you can set any modern camera to shoot raw + Jpeg and then select any B&W option any model offers.

BW switch is just a retro vibe UI. The point of this comparison is the quality of SOOC in tonality and contrast. The popular notion is that its not easy to get "leica bw look" with bayer pattern sensor. Which is nonsense.

We hear the same in videography forums: its not easy to get Arri look from any camera! 

Black and white compare between Zf and Leica Mono. Unless you shoot at ISO 51200, you don't see much difference. In most shots its criminally close.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dyZ1X0xD6BI

Once a landscape photographer said all I want is a 90mm f/4 to be optically flawless at f/4, but nobody makes that, because they think nobody would pay good money for that.

You can always design a relatively compact full frame lens to show cinematic character at f/4. But the industry is focusing on "general purpose" approach with high profit margin. 

8 hours ago, Michael S said:

having an 8k bayer sensor, with an OLPF to avoid aliasing would provide an excellent source for a 4K video

8k bayer is 8k. It doesn't need math, you only need to see with your own eye. Modern demosaicing algorithms with the help of AI are more advanced than you think.

18 hours ago, BabsDoProd said:

With a 7" screen, you can tell that size isn't a factor for me, it's going to end up being more of a box version of the Blackmagic Pocket

With 7 inch it becomes so wide that will be unusable for still photography.

The problem is they never figured out how to make a external monitor solution. The best scenario would be a 4" built-in and 7" inch wireless with 60Ghz and internal battery. 

I'm following some YouTube channels covering Audio Video exhibitions, and what I'm noticing is that apparently Video Wall business is booming. Its very expensive and power hungry, like $150,000 price tag and 3kw/h is quite normal. But few years ago it was way higher than that. Common pixel size is 0.7mm, so you can cover a 6m wall with 8k image. With 0.5mm pixels you need 12k for the same wall. 

2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

target it it primarily at photographers

Targeted photographers and 16:9 screen? 🤔

2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Cinema DNG raw in 2.8K

Dictates very low res sensor. We can't use pixel binning for raw. 

3 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

F1.8 or F2 was for sharpness, F1.4 for portraits, softer skin, more ethereal look.

They can make a compact f/1.4 lens today, especially in wider than normal focal length that short flange of the new mount can help, but it will be soft wide open, at least by recently established standard. They marketed mirrorless lens as optically superior to DSLR lenses, now they can't distance from that. I have no problem with a relatively soft f/1.4 lens if price is reasonable, but the YouTube backlash will be enormous. 

1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

The only things I don't like about the S5ii are; the rear LCD could be higher res

I think the overall size of the display is a problem too. iPhone 15 Pro now records prores 4k60p to external SD in log, and its a 6.7 inch state of the art display.

Somehow relevant to my question.

Now they're comparing iPhone 15 pro 5x camera to 24-70mm lens at 70mm. 

Yes, DSLR image has higher quality, but the fact that we're now doing this comparisons shows that a $3000 camera lens combo should deliver a lot of value to stay attractive for younger generation. 

Let's assume you are product manager in a Japanese camera company. You want to add a new video oriented hybrid to your line up. By video oriented hybrid I mean a video camera that can be used for still photography, rather than a still camera that can shoot video very well.

Please be specific about the specs. And consider, as a product manager, you should have a clear plan for future updates releasing every 2 years, and at least one firmware update in between. Also be realistic to keep the price at $2k.

I don't want to know what you personally want. I want to know what you think the market wants.

Thanks.

The thing is back in DSLR days, f/1.4 purpose was not giving a balanced option in performance/size/price. They made f/1.4 because it was the fastest AF lens they could make for the mount, AND 200% zoomed in sharpness wasn't such a big a deal as is today. 

Nikon started at 2018 and now has more 400mm lens than Sony has 40mm. Glass business is hard, and Canon/Nikon are basically optics company. Canon didn't start the full frame mirrorless transition with a bold sensor message, it started with a bold glass message: 28-70mm f/2.

I just need somebody test its IBIS in video. 

On 8/8/2023 at 2:34 AM, Eric Calabros said:

This phone has active cooling fan.

Thickness and bulk is no longer an issue.

Yea, not using this tech looks intentional.

Another active cooling solution I forgot to mention:

Just now, newfoundmass said:

can't imagine identifying so much with a billion dollar corporation that I have to defend them no matter what

To be fair its mostly a Sony thing in our community. A lot of video/hybrid shooters these days know nobody other than Sony (a side effect of superiority of one brand's marketing strategy over the rest of industry), so when you question Sony, you're in fact questioning their career. 

1 hour ago, SRV1981 said:

if you fell 422 is noticeably better than 420 I am merely asking for video evidence.

https://youtu.be/K4586b8iR2Y?si=rG-m8TUfkH8L0kgc