ND64

Body only is 10,000 yuan in China. Its expensive for these specs, unless the target market don't give a f about specs, which apparently Fuji believes is the case. 

Now its even a better camera

3 hours ago, Framed_By_Dan said:

As long as it's not a behemoth.

Its not

6 hours ago, Al Dolega said:

I would assume Z too?

No Z for now. Sigma is not much interested to work with Nikon, for whatever reason. 

5 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

Surely the best way of doing that would be to do a review and actually state that he doesn’t rate it IN THE FUCKING REVIEW.

He doesn't want to ruin his relationship with the brands to the point they don't send him the new cameras twice as good as previous gen. 

I also don't buy this argument that if someone released a camera twice as good as what we have, we still don't need it! If thats the case, then what the hell are you doing in this competitive environment? When every teenager has a camera in his pocket capable of shooting 4k log video, you need better gears to up your game. Gear is not everything, obviously, but you're in a competition and you need to grab everything you can to be always one step ahead of the crowd, and soon ahead of the AI.

2 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

Though I'd still be far more apt to get the R5C or Z8 than the FX2, but at least now it's not more expensive than they are

I guess their original intention was matching A7iv price but had to release it with baked in tariff inflation.

3 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

Maybe they had to go back and edit out any minor criticism they might have had.

They released the video 1.5 hours sooner than Sony's own scheduled video. 

37 minutes ago, Davide DB said:

I really want to see what all those shilltubers out there will have to say.

"Canon doesn't want you to know about this camera"

"This camera changes everything"

"Why I sold all my gears to get this camera"

"Why Hollywood loves cropped 4k"

7 minutes ago, ND64 said:

Congratulations to Kasey for having another case for black and white meating with Japanese boss

Was it necessary to make the EVF so long? Its like a camcorder from 90s. 

Congratulations to Kasey for having another case for black and white meating with Japanese boss

1 hour ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

In fact, the Z5 II is VERY well priced. It made Nikon take the lead in FF sales in Japan for the 1st time in years.

What's interesting about Japanese market, which by no means representing the global market tho, is not Nikon taking the lead, which is a sudden jump by a single product, but Sony's steady decline, despite all previous generation alpha cameras they were selling at lower prices.

1 hour ago, Thpriest said:

Dacia Sandero used to have a model that cost around 8000€, now the cheapest is 14000€.

A lot of EU regulations happened in that period tho, and regulations are costly. 

2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

An EVF less Z30 with a big screen sounds very much like one of these to me.

Easily doable even with the Z mount, but I doubt Nikon goes so big. So far, nobody among Japanese camera makers have implemeted 5 inch display into their morrorless bodies. Its like a taboo over there. Maybe because they think it ruins the ergonomics of the body.

Thom Hogan:

"Nowhere in Panasonic's press releases or marketing information I've seen so far do they actually seem to know how to market their six different 24mp cameras (S1II, S1IIE, S5II, S5IIX, S9, and BS1H). In the S1IIE features list the sensor is listed as "inspired by the performance characteristics of the Lumix S5II," which tells you nothing. Those of us in the press these days are dealing with AI driven press releases, but I'm failing to even see the I in Panasonic's. Nothing tells me which 24mp camera to buy, let alone why I should buy it instead of Canon's, Nikon's, or Sony's. This feels like "stuff the channel and see if it sells" product management, not clear, user centric marketing."

from Nikon Rumors:

Brick-shaped, video-oriented design, without pentaprism and EVF – a combination of the current RED models design, the Sony FX3, and the Nikon Z30

Many features and tech from RED will be incorporated inside (not a new RED camera with Z-mount – we already got that)

Z6 III sensor inside

Very large LCD screen

The official announcement is expected later this year, most likely in the third or fourth quarter of 2025

I don't know what Frankenstein of a brick body would be the combination of RED/FX3/Z30, but "very large" LCD gives hope its a bit different from whats already available in the market.

So what will the price of FX3II? $5000? 

46 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

I don't think Lumix gets nearly the credit they deserve for everything they throw into these cameras. You could argue that they almost put too much in. The codecs, frame rates, and aspect ratio options could be considered overwhelming by some folks. 

 

Here is the summary: give Panasonic engineers a random sensor, and they give you the most video featured camera around that sensor that you could imagine. The problem is 1. Nobody gives them the state of the art sensor (or they don't like to pay high price) 2. They're asked to repeat themselves for similar sensor/bodies with overlapping customer target. 3. What they do is attractive for niche part of the hybrid market and not enough to absorb new customers. 4. "Similar offering to big three but at cheaper price" could kick the can down the road for a while, but even that strategy is no more with these prices. 5. When a market is saturated, and there are big players in that saturated market, the only way to survive is to be bold and different. Just like what Chinese discovered in the lens market, and so we're seeing 15mm macro! 

37 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

That post really irks the Sony shill in the group cause most of the comment is about the title or wait til Sony releases.

Thats exactly what he wanted.

Nikon now can do the funniest firmware update in history of hybrid mirrorless industry. 

Price will be probably lower. This $3500 is likely post-crazy-tariffs calculation and they would revise that, given the newly released tariff numbers. 

1 hour ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

This seems to be another entry in the "if you already have a big investment in L-mount lenses, maybe you don't have to sell them, but it's not going to bring you into the system" category.

Its amazing that this situation doesn't change a bit with every new product announcement.

1 minute ago, ND64 said:

Full frame 6K30p OG, 5.9K60p 17:9, 5.1K60p 3:2, 4.8K60p 4:3, 4K120p 16:9/17:9, FHD240p

If its Z6iii's sensor, why they use these weird crop modes?

So here is the deal:

15-stop dynamic range V-LOG (dynamic range enhancement mode on)

14+ stops dynamic range V-LOG (dynamic range enhancement mode off)

24M new sensor

Full frame 6K30p OG, 5.9K60p 17:9, 5.1K60p 3:2, 4.8K60p 4:3, 4K120p 16:9/17:9, FHD240p

APS-C 3.3K 120p 4:3, 4K120p 16:9/17:9, FHD240p

S&Q 6K 60fps, 4K 17:9 75fps, 4K 2.4:1 120fps, FHD 240fpsFF

120Hz 5.76 million dot EVF

779-point phase focus

Dual native ISO100/800

Five-axis image stabilization with 8 stops in the center and 7 stops in the periphery

1/8000s mechanical shutter

70fps continuous shooting with electronic shutter, 10fps mechanical shutter