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The S1H is really special, I got a photog friend uses it mostly for photo and some videos, he also had dab with Sony for a while but back to Pana S1H for everything he do.

https://www.wired.com/story/28-years-later-danny-boyles-new-zombie-flick-was-shot-on-an-iphone-15/
 
Unlike previous film shot on iPhone which was on limited budget, this one is proper budget and the whole setup for that iphone looks like 70k in total. But then 28 days later was shot on xl1, I guess they want to keep the consistency? 

The S1H is really special, I got a photog friend uses it mostly for photo and some videos, he also had dab with Sony for a while but back to Pana S1H for everything he do.

In the last two weeks I did film two horse show jumping events including the international one with most of the top riders in the world.
I also covered a track and field event with some Olympics athletes in not great lighting, I was there for photos, but I did play a bit on the B competition with some slow motion.

The good:
Battery life is quite ok (no grip), much better than R5c and it does not burn battery while not recording, I could keep my camera on while not filming. As I film a lot in 8k 50 RAW is a liberation to not need a cage + external battery + cables.... my only big complain about the R5c.

I find it a bit easier to expose with Clog2 than 3, I get less noisy shadow and better highlight, it seems to have a bit better DR. I was filming with both R5c and R5 II at the same time and the R5 II seems to show a tad better DR. Is not world changing but is noticeable.
AF is imo a big step forward for action/sports compared to R5c and R5. The fact that you can draw the area where you want to find faces and the way it tracks head looking forward, backwards and with helmets is quite amazing. It has the same feature and behavior in all modes/frame rates. 
C1-C3 presets super useful, I'm missing this so much on the R5c. Super quick to change from 8k RAW 50, 4k 10bit 100fps and 2k 10bit 200fps and back.
2k 200/240 in CLog2 with full AF is insane, nothing available that I'm aware close at this price.... quality is ok but more than usable imo. If you use a high shutter speed, you can easily use Resolve Motion Estimation to interpolate to 480fps. My athletes were super impressed by the image that they got.

Did not have any overheating issue but horse show jumping is always 1-2 min recording and 1-2 min waiting, and I don't film all the athletes but only the ones from the 3 teams that I cover so is not really a taxing scenario.
Is fully compatible with RS3Pro and Raveneye, I can start stop and change settings via the DJI Ronin app. R5c is partially compatible, I can start stop but cannot change settings. 

It has a tad faster RS at 8k 50 and is noticeable on panning that there is a bit less leaning of the obstacle's posts.
 
The bad:
Waveform cannot be resized, and you cannot assign a button for turning it on or off, even more funny is that you cannot add the menu item to mymenu... seems a last-minute addition that is unfinished. At least it does the job but once I have set the exposure it annoys me as I want to focus on tracking well the athlete.

I had two lookups 😞 while starting to film at 200fps, it did not happen (yet) in any other mode, I had to pull the battery. Funny enough I had also a lookup with the R5c while stopping a recording, fortunately I did not lose the file. Bad day? The two at 200fps seems too much but let see.
Not a big issue but the formats menu is a mess imo. Too many choices easy to mess it up. I prepare beofre the event my C1-C3 and never touch that messy menu.
 

Some slow motion examples, again tons of aliasing and a bit soft but what else give you good DR, full AF, at this fps in an affordable price?
 
No1 in the world at 240fps and interpolated at 480fps (sorry I left the audio track in 😞
Detail at 400fps interpolated (sorry I left the audio track in 😞
 
Track and Field 200fps


It can also take picture, at 30fps you can get a bit better timing, and it has better RS but not sure is worthed over the R5 for photo only:

I have been shooting with the Canon R5 Mark II for about two weeks now for various small projects, mostly just testing the camera out in the types of conditions in which I usually shoot; very hot, humid, run and gun with little to no control over the lighting or venue. I mostly shoot event work and work quite a bit with models and fashion as well. I plan on replacing my Canon R7 with the Canon R5 II as my hybrid run and gun camera. To fill that role it must have one usable mode that does not overheat, and must be reliable in less than ideal conditions. 
So below are my thoughts on the Canon R5 II so far, some bad, mostly good and possibly some of it was just due to me not fully getting used to the camera, so my opinions on some of the bad things may change over time as I get more familiar with the camera and hopefully as new firmware is released for it.
THE GOOD
Ergonomics - As usual, Canon hits this one out of the park. The grip is even more comfortable, the dedicated photo/video switch is way better than fiddling with a custom function switch, and everything is pretty much exactly where I expect it to be. I do miss the thumbwheel around the joystick like the R7 has, it made changing the Aperture a little faster while keeping the camera steady, but the R7 was the only camera to have this so its not a huge loss. Video Quality - I tested everything from 8K60FPS to 4KSRAW to 4K HEVC S and it all looks good to me. I will probably use 4K30/60FPS HEVC S 90% of the time with 4KFine for interviews, and 4K30FPS HEVC S for long form content. I believe it will not overheat in that mode so that is another place where it will replace the R7. Dynamic Range - I don't pixel peep or use charts and graphs, I just get out and shoot; so far the dynamic range seems acceptable, not really more or less than other current cameras in my opinion. The one simple test that I do with each camera is have the sun directly behind the model and try to film her face without a fill light...basically the harshest possible scenario possible; and the R5II looked no different to me in that scenario than every other camera that I have tested. CLOG 2 - All I can say is wow....this to me is the biggest improvement in image quality that I have seen in any mirrorless Canon camera. I have always shot in CLOG3 because I was used to it and with the C70 I used CLOG3 because it had to match the R7. I had no idea CLOG2 could make such a big difference. The highlight roll off, colors, and overall image quality in difficult lighting conditions is pretty incredible when compared to CLOG3 out of the R5. Any camera can get a good image in ideal lighting conditions, the real test is harsh lighting, highlight clipping, and highlight roll off, and with CLOG2 the camera excels in these situations. This one feature alone makes it hard to compare IQ out of the R5II vs other Canon mirrorless cameras; I can't tell if the sensor's DR is that much better, if its CLOG2 doing the heavy lifting, or both; but I am definitely satisfied with the image quality. Viewfinder/Backscreen - Both seemed good to me, I still to this day prefer my OVF in my 5D4 vs any mirrorless EVF, but that's just me. The EVF in the R5II seems acceptable as EVF's go, and the backscreen was easy to see regardless of the lighting. Dual Slot Recording - Of course the R5II can record to dual slots but only for a few modes due to the data rate limitations of SD cards. The main modes that I will use; 4K30/60FPS HEVC both can write to the SD card so for most of my work, I will have redundancy. One nice feature is that even when shooting video that can only record to the CFE card, the camera can be set to still save images to both cards. Photography Features - I don't shoot sports so I don't really care about all of the new AF settings, I did test photography as well though and it performed exactly as expected. For me, there's nothing really new in this area that interests me; it triggered my remote flashes when it was supposed to, triggered the hotshoe flash properly and reliably, and overall felt like the R5 and every other Canon mirrorless camera. Auto Focus - It has so many AF modes that I need to practice more in this area for video. I found myself switching modes more than I expected during the test shoots because the AF wasn't working the way I needed. Not the camera's fault, but just due to the sheer volume of settings, I need to get better at figuring out what mode is best for the situation. Low Light - Haven't done almost any testing with this yet, but a second native ISO at 4000 is perfect and is the most useful place for a second ISO. I believe this second native ISO is only for video though, so it is a little murky to me what happens to noise when you set it to 4000ISO for photography. I will be shooting a lowlight event this coming weekend so I will do some more testing then. So long story short, the Canon RII predictably builds on the R5 with the biggest surprise for me being CLOG2. After using the R5 and R7 I believe it fix the small things that I did not like about the R7 (no dual native ISO) and add things I didn't even know I was missing (4K SRAW, CLOG2, etc.). 
THE BAD
Firmware Bugs - I really hope these things are fixable via a FW update, but at this point I almost feel like I need to bring a backup camera to shoots. I never felt that way even with FW 1.0 with the R7.  Screen Shuts Off Video Display - This one is bad.....3x now the back screen has gone black and will not show the video. It will show all of the configuration data on the screen such as WFM and histogram, but no video feed. If I switch to photography the display comes back, switch back to video there is no feed. The sensor is still working because the histogram shows changes when moving the camera around, but it will not display on the back screen. The only fix for this so far is to restart it. Stops Communicating with Lens - This happened twice for me. The Aperture read F00 and I had no Aperture or AF. This was with my Meike vND adapter and an EF lens. I tried changing EF lenses, removing the adapter then reinstalling it, etc. The only thing that fixed it was putting on my one RF lens then taking it off and putting back on the adapter. Of course  I will get no help from Canon because the adapter is a 3rd party adapter.....not good. Lost Settings - It has only done this one so far but it reverted some of my settings back to their default settings after a restart. IBIS - Compared to my R7, the IBIS in the R5II is not as good. Its correction is very harsh when it reaches the end of its travel, and it jerks the image back to the center of the IBIS. If you do not reach the end of its travel then it is fine, but if you try walking for example, no matter how carefully you walk, the IBIS will jerk the image around instead of slowly correcting back to center. My Smallrig cage is on order, I am hoping when I get it installed that I will have better control over the camera when shooting handheld. Battery Life - The battery life is noticeably worse than the R7. I went through 2 batteries shooting short clips with the camera mostly turned off in between. I was shooting 8K/4K RAW/Compressed up to 120FPS but they were still all pretty short. My battery life could have been so bad because I set my EVF to smooth, but I barely used the EVF because I was shooting video. Overheating - The overheating warning came on when shooting 4KFine. I was shooting approximately 4 or 5 very short 30s clips and two bars showed up and it looked like it was going to climb pretty quickly. The ambient temps were around 90 degrees Fahrenheit and 80% humidity. No other mode displayed the warning for the rest of the day. Electronic Level - Still a pet peeve of mine, it still disappears while recording. 4KSRAW - This codec has some major moiré issues that are not fixable in post. If the scene has nothing that will bring it out then the mode is fine, but it definitely has major issues. On a production shoot I don't think I would ever trust this mode for paying work. THE ODD
The camera also has some weird quirks that take some getting used to. Once you know them and if you can remember them in the middle of a shoot then you are ok, but they are annoying nonetheless.
Histogram - The histogram will only display if Exposure Simulation is turned on. I do not like exposure simulation in certain lowlight situations so turning it off means I lose the histogram. WFM - It is great that they included the WFM, but you can't move it, you can't resize it, and you can't turn it off/on via a button or even via a direct option in the Favorites menu.  Aspect Ratio Bars - They finally included this in the R5II, but it is only visible on the backscreen, so if you are shooting photos with the EVF you are out of luck. The Panasonic S5 had this years ago and displayed them in both places. 8K Compressed - 8K Compressed options disappear from the list if the recording option is not set to CFE only. Instead of just greying it out and telling you that when you try to use it, it completely disappears.  Even odder, 8K RAW does not disappear and it tells you that you must use the CFE card only for recording. 8K60FPS - This is not documented clearly anywhere I have seen, but 8K60FPS is only an option if you pick compressed raw. I am fine with that, 8K is massive as it is, but I never saw the advertising materials mention 8K60FPS RAW is compressed raw only CONCLUSION
If the bugs get worked out this is a worthy successor to the R7 for me. The image quality and features are what I expected when getting the camera.  The bugs though really make it hard to trust this camera, it stopped communicating with the lens after a 1.5hr drive to a shoot that could only be done that day.....if I had not brought along my RF70-200 lens (which I usually don't for a video shoot), I may have been unable to get the camera working again...not a good feeling after buying a $4300 camera.
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT
Here are my reviews for:
The S5 - Panasonic S5 User Experience
The C70 - Canon C70 User Experience
BONUS
I shot a camera test video with some local models and exotic cars to put the camera through its paces. This is the way that I will be using the camera every single day so that's how I tested it....no control over nature, lighting, venue setup, etc. For this shoot I used the Meike vND RF to EF adapter, Sigma EF 50mm F1.4, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8, and the Canon RF70-200 F2.8. Mostly handheld, but I did use a gimbal for some of the longer walking shots.
 

Here is one of the guys that I really trust for reviews, he makes a living every day as a videographer, not a YT reviewer. Funny thing is, he said almost exactly the same things that I said in this thread (C70 is almost too soft, C70 falls apart after 3200ISO, if you already have the C70 it might be all you need, etc.). Honestly, his video makes me want the C80 more than anything I have seen so far (but I'm not upgrading).
I fall squarely into the category where the C70 is more than enough for my needs but the C80 would fix everything I don't like about the C70.
 
 

Maybe the social work he is referring to is counselling people who bought one two weeks ago at the old price.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DG9C6CR9
 
Basically C400 sensor in C70 body

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21542/end-of-the-road-an-anandtech-farewell
Very sad to see the news of Anandtech stopping.
Canary in the coal mine or what? If this can happen to a PC / tech website which is part of a thriving market compared to DPReview, then it can happen to ALL quality journalism on the world wide web.
Anandtech is owned by Future PLC, they are the British company behind some of the earliest mainstream tech journalism in the UK such as the PC and Atari magazines on shelves in the 80s and 90s.
In a nut shell smartphones are killing long form written content completely and the internet is going away as we know it.
It is turning into cable TV or sensationalised clickbait tabloid news.
Just look at the camera rumors sites and YouTube.
A big shame if you ask me and it would be great to know what to do to preserve the written word, written journalism and written knowledge outside of just books, if the internet is no longer the right medium for it.
Time for an internet 1.0... That can only be accessed via a desktop or laptop?
The problem with phones is that you just don't have the large enough screen space to do anything useful, content wise. It lends itself only to scrolling and short captions, or photos and video.

Watched on 16" MacBook full screen and my takeaway/opinion was:
Best detail 4k 25p = Canon
Best detail 4k 50p = Canon
Best low light 4k = Sony
Best colour = Lumix (which surprised me)
Best DR = Lumix and worst DR = Canon
Best image of the lot, Lumix 6k 25p, especially in open gate.
Does the 6k mode reduce IBIS ability slightly? Maybe but as Lumix already has arguably the best IBIS as a starting point, it's probably comparable at least with Canon and better than the Sony which most reckon is still a bit behind.
Lumix 6k 25p open gate for the win then. I prefer 30p for various reasons.

I stand corrected, contrary to what people were saying SRAW seems very good, on pair to 4k Fine (oversampled) and much better than 4k 50p (line skipped), so it is not line skipped but what it is?
The guy could record > 2h continuously in SRAW....

Also, 2k 200fps seems better that what I was expecting. 100fps no improvements 😞
 


PS: my R5II did arrive yesterday, I will test out in the next few days and share my first impressions

good example. I guess my eyes are attracted to the goodies. hahaha.

I didn’t realise you had an OF channel.
Where can I find it?

And for the other 0.1%, may I offer you a very warm welcome to the forum.

Of course content is the key
When you watch on Onlyfans would u care if they shoot on iPhone or Pro grade camera? I think 99.9% users of OF don't care. 😉
 
Anyway I moved from Sony FX3 to Canon R7 this year as my personal main cam. Most client couldn't careless, and image quality wise most won't tell the difference except that low light which I hardly shoot.

Of course content is the key
When you watch on Onlyfans would u care if they shoot on iPhone or Pro grade camera? I think 99.9% users of OF don't care. 😉
 
Anyway I moved from Sony FX3 to Canon R7 this year as my personal main cam. Most client couldn't careless, and image quality wise most won't tell the difference except that low light which I hardly shoot.

Of course content is the key
When you watch on Onlyfans would u care if they shoot on iPhone or Pro grade camera? I think 99.9% users of OF don't care. 😉
 
Anyway I moved from Sony FX3 to Canon R7 this year as my personal main cam. Most client couldn't careless, and image quality wise most won't tell the difference except that low light which I hardly shoot.

I think a used EOS RP will suit ur need, since it is FF it still beat any apsc out there for low light capture, and should be in ur budget too.

Yeah, 1080p cropped for vertical is like 600*1080.. even less than 720p resolution.
With 4k you can do fake dolly or slider in post or punch in for close up, much more to play with and give you abit of headroom for errors.
 
Does people even shoot only 2MP photo nowadays?

We shoot 4k for flexibility in post, and if u want to make portrait video for social from the same footage then the 1080p will be too low res for that.

Yeah that is your opinion, I also shoot occasional 8k for virtual production or those showing on big LED 
And 8K is needed for VR applications, those 6k 360 cam is not really sharp for Vision Pro..
Raw on the other hand I rarely use it so it must be gimmick 😉 

Yeah that is your opinion, I also shoot occasional 8k for virtual production or those showing on big LED 
And 8K is needed for VR applications, those 6k 360 cam is not really sharp for Vision Pro..
Raw on the other hand I rarely use it so it must be gimmick 😉 

Sure, it should arrive tomorrow, sold my R5 last week.

As somebody that shoot mostly in 8k RAW with R5 (now replaced with the R5 II) and R5c I do strongly disagree with the above sentence. 

Says the guy who research a lot of cameras 😆 
I am definitely keen to try filming in super 8 though, should be simple compare to modern camera? Just the film is expensive to buy and develop and only 3 min for each roll.