Andrew Reid

Clone me and I'll consider it. As far as the filming of reviews go. Philip is very good at that, his reviews are almost an event in themselves. But I prefer to write, I find often coming across info on the web and not having the time to absorb a video. It is quicker to read a blog post.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/G44C0207.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/G44C0207.jpg[/img][/url] Panasonic's Philipp Wolf showed me the inner-workings of the new GH3 at Photokina today. I was then let loose with the camera to shoot some test footage in 1080/25p ALL-I and 50Mbit 1080/50p mode. This camera was running firmware version v0.4 and so by no means final yet. What I found impressed me.

[quote name='nigelbb' timestamp='1347870717' post='18304'] I suspect that Nikon & Canon just got the same answers from the extensive marketing research & focus groups that these vast corporations use to find out what consumers really want. [/quote] Or hire a Steve Jobs. Much better.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gh3-official.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gh3-official.jpg[/img][/url] Described by Panasonic as a semi-professional 'creative HD hybrid' and a flagship model for the company, the Panasonic GH3 is finally here - 2 years after the GH2 arrived. The official unveiling answers some of the mysteries too.

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/canon-6d-full-frame-dslr.jpg[/img] The full frame Canon 6D has just been formally unveiled as Photokina opens for the press. A competitor to the Nikon D600 (also to be unveiled today)Â this is a near identical camera to the 5D Mark III in many respects especially video it seems. But like the 60D compared to the 7D, it is cheaper and smaller. It features a new 20MP sensor but a similar (if not identical) DIGIC 5+ processor of the 5D Mark III. It has built in WiFi and GPS unlike the bigger brother. The only real compromises seem to be in the AF system, lack of 100% viewfinder, lack of headphone jack, slightly slower burst rate for stills and lack of left side button panel.

[quote name='KahL' timestamp='1347865857' post='18297'] No it did not and that bit of strong misinformation was further perpetuated by this site as well. [/quote] More like it was perpetuated by people misunderstanding the article and all the words. Misinterpreting information is very common. At no point did I say on the blog that the GH2 was technically superior to an Alexa, Epic or F65 in the Zacuto shootout.

[quote name='Chrad' timestamp='1347860864' post='18295'] Probably just run of the mill mild corporate espionage. There's no way that in this day and age Canon and Nikon would be able to hide such major projects from each other. [/quote] If it is 'mild' espionage in terms of solid evidence that one of the companies is producing a certain kind of product, then yes.

[quote name='Zach' timestamp='1347853648' post='18292'] what exactly would be suspicious about it? [/quote] Canon and Nikon are supposed to be separate companies. Everyone who knows about their cameras as they are being planned or developed are under an NDA. As far as I know, a company doesn't make a massive product decision based on rumours or whispers so if a Nikon guy came to a Canon guy in a Tokyo pub and said "hey we're making a cut price full frame DSLR!" I don't think Canon would suddenly create a 6D. But it could just be a coincidence. They are matching each other at every step. It seems the D800 caught Canon unawares in the high megapixel territories - they don't have an answer to that yet.

I will be travelling to Cologne in the morning for Photokina 2012. [url="http://twitter.com/EOSHD"]Follow the EOSHD Twitter account for updates[/url] [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/8991/follow-my-live-panasonic-gh3-and-canon-6d-updates-from-photokina-today"]Read the full story here[/url]

[quote name='markm' timestamp='1347800106' post='18251'] Cameraboy Some speculation. Would that lead to the sort of softness we see in Genesis do you think? Maybe its got a filter for moire and aliasing that adds to the softening we have seen? [/quote] I am amazed people don't know the difference between 7Mbit and 72mbit. VIMEO IS A 7MBIT STREAM!! It was 720p even, until yesterday evening. Of course it looks soft and macro blocked and crushed.

And GH3 has a quad core CPU. Impressive.

The Olympus OM-D E-M5 Sony sensor is 16.1MP effective, 16.9MP in total.

Regarding the sensor, the partially complete specs at Samy's hint at multi-aspect ratio, made by Panasonic. This Sony sensor rumour is just that, a rumour. I'll try and explore this a little more at Photokina and dive into the details, like whether it still has a 1:1 crop mode, whether the HDMI is uncompressed 4:2:2, etc. The specs say 17.20MP total pixels, 16.05MP effective. It then says '17.3 x 13.00mm IN 4/3 MODE' suggesting the sensor size changes to 19 x 10.5mm in 16:9 mode like the GH2.

Yes cinema Pierre, like that screened at the Skywalker Ranch for Coppola. You don't know it doesn't have a flat profile yet. You don't know if it looks better than the GH2 yet because you're judging massively compressed web footage at 7Mbit - not ALL-I 72mbit 1080p. Muppet post of the year?

I can't believe some people are complaining about the $1299 price tag. Have you forgotten what you're getting and what a big step this is up from the GH2? Blackmagic is considered a bargain at $3000, and it is. But the GH3 has 1080/60p, a larger sensor, stills, swappable internal battery, better low light performance, is smaller and lighter, likely better handling, more physical controls, the list goes on. And next to the Blackmagic after you've graded raw, ALL-I 72Mbit H.264 stands up very well with a fine grain of noise and as much detail. What the BM does better is 2.5K resolution, the advantages of raw for grading and likely an extra stop of dynamic range. Very different cameras but if the BM is a bargain then the GH3 bloody well certainly is. I love both personally even though I've not used either yet. My view may swing one way or another once I do.

Thanks Gary. The dealers seem to be making the best of the 2 units the UK received. I'm in Germany then Croatia until October so I won't be dropping in on Jigsaw24, I just want the shipping to start properly.

The skin tones look awful because you're watching a 7Mbit stream. That is one hell of a compression! Wait for Monday and hopefully Philip will be able to turn on the download option.

[quote name='Simco123' timestamp='1347731051' post='18143']I can see some emulation of the 70s Milk Tray ad and similarity of both this and Reverie.[/quote] !?

Rubber is bat**** crazy indeed! But I like it.

[media]http://vimeo.com/49420579[/media] Could this be the moment Panasonic finally get the wider acceptance they deserve for the GH line? Here's the first promotional short movie shot on the Panasonic GH3 by [url="http://philipbloom.net/2012/09/15/genesis/"]Philip Bloom[/url].

I'm not in the least bit sad because of a nasty comment on what was a very positive thread. I just think it is a sad situation. How can I stop this from happening again? Censorship? Ban? Humour him? Nope the offer is there to Simco, if he wants to continue he'll have to put his real identity out there and not hide behind a grey shadowy figure.

[quote name='Simco123' timestamp='1347680770' post='18081'] Philip Bloom is "the face" of videography technology demonstrator, like the man from Del Monte they need him to say "Yes" because all the lemmings need to be told what is good and what is not by someone with an English accent. Quite frankly I find him condescendinig on his reviews and actually rather rude. Thats said he is pretty good at what he does as a filmmaker. Does Andrew feel the hurt of not being invited? If I was Panny I probably won't extend my invite to Andrew because he is too opinionated and goes off on a tangent like a drunkard on a pup crawl, not the sort of PR guy a manufacturer look for to promote their gears :o [/quote] It is such a sadness that you feel comments like this are necessary Simco123. You're entitled to your opinions but why make it personal? Our names are out there, yours isn't. If you want to stay in the forum I'm asking you to do a simple thing - change your username to your real name and put a real picture up there. If you don't do it before your next comment, I'll ask you to leave. Maybe think about your contribution and how useful it is too. I can tell you the value of that comment above - it is zero to people wanting to discuss the GH3. If only I had the time back from responding to off-topic slander on web forums, I'd be able to design my own damn camera.

A cheaper 5D Mark III from Canon [img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/1/5053770367ae6_canon6d.jpg[/img] I very much doubt video will be improved but the price should be more attractive. Thanks Photo Rumors http://photorumors.com/2012/09/14/pictures-of-the-canon-eos-6d-and-powershot-s110-cameras

[quote name='Steven Phipps' timestamp='1347646012' post='18025'] thanks guys. andrew do u think we ll be dealing with shipping delays again like w gh2? or were they strictly earthquake related woes? [/quote] For reference, related to your earlier question about AF... Contrast detect AF on the GH3 is faster than the Nikon D3's phase detect. The only flaw of CD AF is if you have a very low contrast area of the image which you're trying to lock focus onto, you will get some hunting.

The GH2 shipping woes weren't Earthquake related, more mundane than that - they allocated more units to Europe and Asia than the US. Mirrorless hasn't gone well in the US. Blame the people who see a BIG camera and think it is BETTER. Max... How is 72mbit too low for ALL-I? Trust me on that, it isn't low. I did love the OM-D in-body stabilisation. IS is important for some people but I prefer to shoot handheld with a shoulder mounted rig, the results are better than with IS.