Andrew - EOSHD

I just want the place to be even more constructive than it already is really.

 

Keep the suggestions coming :)

Just ran the test clip through 5DtoRGB using 601 (709 has no change) :

 

 

Nice highlight recovery. :)

 

Wow that turned out well. Good job.

 

Still I think the trick with this camera is to expose for the highlights as the shadows are very clean and can be lifted quite a bit.

This is pretty much exactly the kind of thing I am getting at.

 

People who don't properly 'get' or even read the main topic or article and make a quick comment.

 

It is like you're paying more attention to Ivan's words than my own.

 

Just this moment said it and clarified that I am not picking on beginners or non-professionals and yet you feel that is the case. Why?

I'm only posting this as a means that you might understand where (at least some) of the backlash is coming from.  Try to go easy on yourself and ignore the bashing.  The Internet is cruel like 3rd grade is cruel.

 

But, because you- like most content creators on the internet- are not a credentialed/degreed journalist- there are certain things that you (and most others) don't know about reporting, but probably should.

 

For instance, report facts only, and if it's opinion, then preface it by stating *clearly* that it is *your* opinion.  It just won't work when you are both the reporter and the op-ed guy.

 

For example, (not to belabor a point), how can you report fairly on BMD when you post the following quote the day BMD launches their new cameras:

 

"Their [BMD] existing Cinema and Pocket Camera user base is lost. It’s over."

 

It's fine to have an opinion, I'm not judging you.  I'm often wrong myself, and I, too, get overexcited.  But you need to find some way of separating opinion from news.  When it's combined, some people lose their ****.  I appreciate your site, your reporting, and these forums.  I'm just trying to help out (as a non-biased member of any forum or fanboy of any manufacturer.

 

A blog is by definition not traditional journalism in the sense that you only report facts.

 

For a start it is written in the first person perspective, as in "how I see it" like a newspaper column. If I take my personal opinion out of EOSHD I may as well just reprint some press releases and call it a day.

 

So you essentially are suggesting I actually do that. Wow!

 

Secondly it is written as a log (hence the origins of the word... web-log... b-log) of my filmmaking experience and the cameras I use and am interested in. It isn't Wikipedia.

 

I believe if you read the articles with any kind of level-headedness you can easily see what is my opinion and what is an objective fact.

 

Clearly me saying "the user base is lost" is, taken in context, an opinion. Based on the facts, but nevertheless it is my opinion. I am web logging my opinion and experience.

 

Most people who have 'called me out' for inaccuracies actually just don't agree with my opinion. I haven't got the facts wrong I have just got the wrong opinion and they don't like it.

 

Heaven help me if I ever write a satirical article.

 

I did that about Red once.

Thanks for all the views so far. It has given me a few ideas.

 

I think the vote system to relegate or delete comments is interesting but in practice it won't work because it would render a thread unreadable. It breaks the flow and may make a nonsense of the good posts that remain or cause them go out of context.

 

Sometimes the bad posts makes others respond with good posts, so maybe I should just keep the forum open to all.

 

Maybe it is a necessary process in life and in creativity to trawl through the rubbish to find the diamond in the rough?

I'd say, live and let live.

Not all readers of your blog are of the same professional level as you are, but still the same, they learn a lot from your post and the forum.

Throwing these beginners out, as some suggest here, not only undermines the whole concept of having a blog/forum, Andrew

 

Who says anything about throwing out beginners? I am not sure where you got this from in my post? Everyone is a beginner at the start, creativity is not exclusive to those with experience and high knowledge levels. It isn't beginners I have a problem with at all actually. It is some of the personalities and attitudes of hardened professionals that I find most challenging to deal with on the whole. Anyway it is wrong to generalise or point the finger at a whole group. This is not about pros vs beginners or anything of the sort. Membership of the forum should be on an individual basis and based on the quality of the posts.

Over the last few months it has been a shame to see such good information from level-headed people here on the forum being totally drowned out by poor quality posts, bullshit, rudeness and just general argumentativeness or stuff which has nothing to do with filmmaking or even reality.

 

Frankly it is becoming a real pain to moderate and I just don't have time for it.

 

All over the internet forums are the same, they are all a total PITA to read because of a disruptive few.

 

I am considering a change to the forum which would effectively see it closed but for a few selected members who have a proven track record of good posts. The forum would have a lot of exposure and readers. Like a 'second blog' to EOSHD that everybody can get something interesting out of.

 

In preparation for the potential change over the next few weeks I will name the top quality people on here. Those who contribute interesting and cool stuff to the forum...

 

This is so EOSHD readers can check their profiles and check their posts more often - essentially I want to start drawing attention to the good guys rather than them always being drowned out.

 

By quality content I also mean good attitude towards other members, not just regular posting of constructive and creative stuff. People who help other shooters out when they are in need of it... and people who avoid the inevitable mud-slinging when someone with 2 or 3 posts jumps in to stir things up for their own enjoyment!

 

To have so much good info here especially on the anamorphic forum, drowned out by a vocal minority of idiots is simply unacceptable.

 

I'm not going to start censoring and banning en-masse - it is a shit job and I won't do it. I will simply close the forum and when it reopens it will be a circle of friends and 100% constructive. No bullshit. Like a cool hangout before the tourists get hold of it and ruin it.

 

Some may feel this is undemocratic. I will listen to them and get feedback on the idea before I decide on it 100%.

 

I just really think a forum with fewer members but LOTS of readers would be more useful to the readers of EOSHD.

 

So to those who get a kick out of a fight or a kick out of annoying myself and other filmmakers on the forum, it's time to consider whether you want the forum to continue, or whether it will end up being closed but still readable. I am thinking this could be the most useful outlet for the good stuff on the forum and a way to assist me in running the site.

 

Cheers - Andrew

"All part of the media critique bandwagon"

 

??

 

I could swear it felt more like harassment and abuse of the legal process to me.

 

But I will watch out for those paparazzi next time I stumble out of a nightclub at 3am in a miniskirt and flashbulbs popping, thanks for the advice Olly.

$3299 is too much. Pros are unlikely to embrace in their masses with wobbly jello and wobbly HDMI cable and consumers are likely to snub it on an affordability basis if it is over $2k especially when they can get the more featured packed GH4 at $1699 and internal 4K without need to spend an extra $2k on a recorder.

 

Careful Sony, this is a promising camera... don't blow it.

 

Reduce the crappy jello and keep the price accessible.

CineLikeD does grade nicely. I think sharpness at -5 would help the codec and allow you to choose sharpness in post - add it from a lower baseline setting if needed.

 

I keep contrast at 0, haven't really experimented much with the flatter -5 contrast image and CineLikeD yet.

 

The standard profile gives good results too and the CineLikeV is very contrasty with blacks crushed if you don't plan to grade it.

Whats your experience with rolling shutter on the GH4 Andrew?

 

About the same as on the GH3.

Thanks for the clarification, many equate 4:4:4 to YCbCr not RGB. And the title of this thread and previous mislead.

 

Really? Misleading? Read the damn article Yellow.

Yes censored.

 

So I'll mention this on here instead...

 

A few years ago when I was starting EOSHD, I was banned from the DVXUser forum due to disagreements with some members and some of the moderating team. There was a bit of an element of a personality clash.

 

At the time I was also running some articles strongly critical of Red and their delays / price / spec changes with the Scarlet.

 

Landmine Media who run DVXUser actually went to Jim Jannard's legal department and together they sued me for $70,000.

 

Sued for forum posts and my own opinion at EOSHD.

 

In order to drop the case, Jim Jannard's lawyer said I would have to sign a non-disparagement agreement which I duly signed and faxed over under pressure of a very stressful court battle which I couldn't afford to defend myself over. I simply wanted a quiet life.

 

There's always been a very vocal anti-EOSHD group of users at DVX, BMCC and Personal-View. In recent months it has become borderline harassment.

 

I've been caused no end of stress from this and it is beginning to really get to me, personally and privately.

 

I hope this helps to give some perspective as to my strong feelings towards the BMCUser taunts.

Larger sensor is going to have more problem with rolling shutter. The solution should be develop sensors with global shutter.  Sacrifice some of the sensitivity in exchange for solving this problem.  

 

I don't think it's so much the physical sensor size as the amount of data to read off it. 4K is a lot of pixels. 2160 lines is double the number to scan than 1080. It takes twice as long, so to compensate you have to speed up the rolling shutter. Sony have not done this enough.

Thanks for the post, I have promoted it to the front page and given it it's own thread '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>>

That's not rolling, that's twisting.  They outta see if Chubby Checker music is available for the tv commercials. 

 

If Chubby isn't available about Den Lennie? :)

Oh dear. :D At least it can see in the dark.

 

There goes my dreams of ghost hunting with this camera. Going to be a lot of leaning Slimers in the frame.

 

>Here's a test from the EOSHD forum which shows me what I was a bit afraid of. The A7S looks to have similarly extreme rolling shutter to the AX100, at least in the early pre-production firmware stages.

Read the full article here

Yes raw. How about we do some more experiments then?

 

It is worth figuring out the best way to manage our SSDs.

 

Although thankfully I won't have this headache any more with compressed 4K on the GH4.

I think it depends on consumer expectations. Maybe people are used to firmware updates now and expect a constant stream of upgrades for free.

 

With Blackmagic that should have happened, no doubt about it, because for one thing it has been promised and for another, the cameras lacked basic features.

 

The GH3 has a ton of features and Panasonic haven't promised anything.

 

My firm advise is to upgrade! I don't say this out of any interest of Panasonic getting more sales off the back of my free publicity. I say this as one filmmaker to another. Do it.

Sony A7 what again? :)

I just got banned from BMCUser, so can't defend myself against what people are saying on this thread -

 

http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?8830-Firmware-Updates-for-Existing-BM-Cameras/page8

 

In light of the email and what I have explained, would any EOSHD supporter be brave enough to step in here and tell the truth?

 

I'd be eternally grateful for it!

Also the highly anticipated Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM ART now has a price - this will be an exceptional piece of glass to use on the GH4 with Speed Booster pre-order the Nikon mount version at B&H for $995 or the Canon mount version

This shot by EOSHD forum member Julian confirms that Panasonic have now completed the final production firmware for the GH4 (version 1.0). The unit pictured above was loaned to Julian but it is a good sign the camera will be shipping on time from stores - possibly by the end of this month in less than 2 weeks.

Read the full article here

Version 1.0? Very nice.

Bit cheeky if you ask me.  Grab the early adopters kit, take away the two most important components of the setup (the diopters), add a huge markup, stir it up and you have a fine anamorphic mess.

 

I agree with Rich here.

 

But it takes two to drive up prices... a buyer and a seller.

 

How about buyers exercise a bit more restraint as well...

 

To avoid further arguing I'm locking the thread.