Andrew Reid

7D on the way!

 

Will likely get the anti-aliasing filter for it too. Image is so sharp, it just needs that tiny bit of low pass filtering to be flawless yet still very sharp.

Is a tripod that inconvenient for stabilisation? The pocket form factor saves you a ton of weight over the BMCC.

 

The only time I'm 100% happy shooting handheld with no rig is when there's a very good stabilisation system on the camera or if I can slow the footage down from 60p to 24p - that reduces the jitter.

 

You could put a Z-finder on the back of the Pocket. Then you have a steadier rig but it's still tiny.

It made Engadget. Well done Florian :)

 

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/05/first-canon-7d-raw-video-shown-courtesy-of-magic-lantern/

 

How much interest is there in 7D raw video coverage on EOSHD? It is quite an old camera now (over 4 years), still a lot of users around?

> How on earth can you NOT use a tripod, when you know the whole world waits for your shots ???

EDIT2: Dammit, doesn't this thing up til now look poorer than GH2 stuff? Do you actually see any better DR? What's going on?

 

There's two ways of looking at it. Would you prefer to see a more marketing orientated eye-candy shoot, or just honest snaps on the street? If you look at the recent Dragon test, that had a hell of a lot of effort put into it and looks incredible but to be honest it was just TOO good. Too good for Vimeo, too good for 1080p, and no frame of reference to compare it to. So I don't mind that John has put these very basically shot real world clips out at all.

 

The screen grab you posted above is badly compressed, badly graded (too much magenta, steep roll off in the blacks and highlights). It doesn't do it justice. Sorry!

Zzz.

 

Anyway - Pocket Camera mirror is up. URL is - https://copy.com/a3Ye8xLctRNy

Some people have literally no concept of price. Are they hedge fund managers?!

Surely it can't be softer than the 1D X? Hmm.

I'll create a mirror at Copy. Uploading...

Big Lebowski is too fringe and Alien is too adult :)

Download from Dropbox

John Brawley has released a few ungraded ProRes files from his card, shot with the Pocket Cinema Camera and SLR Magic 35mm F1.4.

[url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10971/first-prores-files-from-the-blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-released]Read the full article here[/url]

If you grade raw, project raw and view it on a big screen alongside the same graded H.264 mush, you won't be having any doubts about what a leap it is in image quality.

 

It's not fully conveyed from watching compressed streaming video on the internet.

 

Even the Dragon test footage looks normalised on Vimeo.

 

Get a camera and shoot something :)

George Clooney is a canny fox. The director and actor has launched a tirade at the hedge fund manager Daniel Loeb, who has taken a 7% stake in Sony and is encouraging the company to spin off a stake of its movie division as a separate company.

He says it is becoming more and more difficult to get films like Argo green-lit, echoing the concerns of other top talent in Hollywood.

[url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10952/george-clooney-lashes-out-at-sony-pictures-carpetbagger-daniel-loeb]Read the full article here[/url]

I really hope they do this for the 5D MarkII.

 

Erm raw video? They already have.

Just arm yourself with the facts and knowledge, then choose the camera that suits best what you want to do with it.

 

The C100 is in a totally different price bracket to a DSLR.

 

I'd rather invest the difference in lenses.

 

The brickbats are becoming tiresome.

Stick to 2x 64GB cards for now. The new 128GB ones are giving mixed reports and there's rumours of 1200x cards on the horizon.

When you say it's the next after the 5d mkiii and above the 50D, where does the 5d mkii fit?

 

Pretty well close to 7D but more expensive and full frame users may as well choose the 5D Mark III.

 

Check out this chart for full overview on capabilities

 

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.0

Anyway some of you seem to think that weell paying commercial jobs is more important than producing something creative on a shoe-string budget. I know which crowd I would rather associate with.

 

You can be creative on a paying job as well, but yeah - the creative filmmaking community for too long has been held hostage by the pro video community and their needs always get taken more seriously, because they make the most money.

 

EOSHD seeks to associate itself more with the creative producers on a shoe-string budget than with the pro video community and their industry tools.

 

I suggest both sides stop viewing each other with distain, realise their differences, and stops trying to ram one's own needs down each others throats, C100-luvva man especially.

[media]http://vimeo.com/71649487[/media]

Test footage by Florian

The Canon 7D is shaping up nicely for raw video, with image quality that makes a pretty grave for H.264.

[url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10947/canon-7d-raw-with-magic-lantern-1st-sample-footage-in-the-wild]Read the full article here[/url]

How much footage do you plan to shoot? Raw is 12 minutes per 64GB card, so you will need to be apt at dealing with the data and have time for the workflow.

 

However the cameras that do raw in your price range all have moire (50D, 7D, Blackmagic).

 

If you already have a 7D, raw is worth experimenting with. Big leap in image quality over the factory settings, and the moire is much less severe, but if you need no moire at all then the GH2 or G6 are the best options and significantly cheaper than other cameras.

 

The GH3 has hardly any moire but still slightly more than the GH2 and G6. The sensor downsampling creates moire but the use a low pass filter on the output to minimise it. It has less aliasing than the GH2 and G6.

 

What lenses do you plan to use?

Likely not faster as they are the older DIGIC 4 chips from 2009, but the write speeds are similar (91MB/s and up) so good for continuous raw shooting later.

 

Still only at silent pics burst mode stage.

 

Moire like 50D but easily reducible in post or with VAF, it only affects the very highest frequencies.

 

Not better than 5D Mark III but definitely heading for second place!

Too much trolling in this thread.

 

You have one guy who mentions his C100 love relationship in EVERY POST on this forum.

 

You have another saying ridiculous libellous things about BMD going out of business.

 

If you can't improve the quality of contributions, then I will relieve you of posting duties and raise the average post quality two full notches for the rest of us.

Given how hot the Pocket cam apparently gets as it stands, I think we can cross RAW off the list of possibilities. Nearly all cinema cameras, we note, have active cooling systems. They may be able to squeeze compressed RAW of some form onto the SD cards just to pretend to make good on campaign promises.

 

Solid reasoning, after all I can't think of any other camera that does uncompressed 1080p raw to 95Mb/s cards with no fan.

 

http://vimeo.com/66033769

Let's see if all the happy sounding punters come back in 12 months on the forum when they still don't have a camera. Then we will see how they really feel.

So $300 for basic hardware, plus touch screen, lens electronics, metal body, etc....  I would bet, it costs BM between $1000-1500 to produce a Cinema Camera max, and that was at the start.  Now, it's even cheaper like they said, so selling it for $2000 means they're still in the black.

 

Hmm. You forgot to add staff wages, marketing, taxes, a cut for the dealer, shipping costs, firmware development, R&D, fluctuations in raw material prices and the low shipping volumes.

 

I think they are doing another bait and switch.

 

mFT BMCC was one of those. QUICK put a passive mFT mount on it! Too many people on our BMCC EF waiting list!

 

Like with the mFT version it could be some time before 10,000 people get to own a $1995 BMCC.

 

A Blackmagic rep recently hinted at 20,000 Pocket camera orders.

 

Good luck filling those at 100 a month!

I can totally appreciate how that sucks for those people, I wouldn't be happy for wasting $1000 just like that if it happened to me, and I always defend that companies should have ways to compensate recent buyers when they do something like this, even if they split the difference, I believe a $500 voucher would have been a good solution in this case.

 

However, regardless of how much this may suck for early adopters, this is indeed a good thing for the industry and the indie community, which in the long run will be a good thing for these same early adopters.

 

So am I still a lost cause? :)

 

That's not what I'm picking up on. Good for the industry is another subject. You said people wouldn't be annoyed if Canon dropped their Cinema EOS prices.

 

Why is it these days people are incapable of arguing on the point without throwing in loads of straw men?

 

We need a straw man bonfire!