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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1964095-REG/gopro_mission_1_pro_ils.html A "dumb" m43 mount on 1"? Honestly, from my perspective, it's a perfectly fine idea. If people out there don't understand why a dumb m43 mount is going onto a 1" sensor, those folks can just stick with GPro's fixed lens offerings.  For those that know how to utilize the tool, it'll be fine and even a bit more than adequate -- as the people that'll use this gear/mount aren't really fretting about AF or e-iris. The big thing here, I think, is that with adapters you can put anything on there now. FF to C-mount. Hell, go back decades and buy some of the lenses camera companies were putting on their NTSC video cams, if that would work.   Whatever.   That said, my speculation is that they're not even that interested in this camera doing anything special sales-wise in the marketplace. Most likely this iteration of their product is a loss leader put out there for bragging rights. Basically, like, "Look, our products are a serious cinematic tool now!" "Lenses!" "Prestigious-Lens-Brand-This!" "Prestigious-Lens-Brand-That!" The real value in that sort of BS, in this era of YT marketing, is more than worthwhile. As for sensor size, the best footage I ever filmed in my life was captured on 1" sensors. So, it's hard for me to by too concerned about a small'ish sensor -- as far as that ever matters anyway.

🤷‍♂️ sexy as fcuk ? Perfectly legitimate reason to be honest.

🤷‍♂️ sexy as fcuk ? But being serious, a question I have already asked myself and pondering further on… Ideally, I’d like a longer version of the photo 28-45mm f1.8, something like a 45-90mm f1.8 also with internal non-extending zoom, but no sign of that as of yet…

It’s for a personal travel/ski film next winter in northern Finland (supplemented by a Sony rx0ii). I have several manual Nikon lens which I previously adapted to the Pocket 4k. The 85mm is a favourite. Plus all my M/ZM/VM (one of my favourites is the Voigtlander 50mm f3.5 Vintage Line Heliar). I want the Panasonic/Leica 100-400 (not sure why but it seems ridiculously fun to go to 800mm equivalent!). I’ve also ordered the 9mm f/1.7 Panasonic/Leica to replace a MFT Voigtlander 10.5 (far too heavy). A healthy mix of MF and AF. Shallow dof is certainly not a priority. Interestingly, I am finding that the “fun of using” is far more important that ultimate IQ… after all, none of this really matters!

What are you shooting and what lenses are you contemplating? I can't recall what your other normal equipment is, but MFT opens up a Pandoras Box whole world of possibilities with adapters etc too (if you don't need AF) so that can be fun too. I've been shooting street video at night with two combos that work incredibly well.. the first is my 42.5mm F0.95 with the Sirui 1.25x anamorphic adapter on the front, making it an equivalent of 68mm F1.5 and creating beautiful rendering wide open, but the combo is 1.3kg / 46oz so I also got a Takumar 50mm F1.4 on a speed booster, which is equivalent to a 71mm F2.0, which is much more vintage but is tiny and almost a full 1kg lighter. I'm contemplating a native 35mm F0.95 or F1.4 to replace both and have a less vintage but still lightweight for travel shooting. I also rock the 14-140mm for day shooting while travelling, and in brighter places the 12-35mm F2.8 is pretty hard to beat. So many great lenses. If you don't need crazy DOF then MFT is a great option, even with the larger body sizes.

I have used several c-mount lenses on my GX85/GH5/GH7 cameras without incident, along with many others on these forums. I have the right adapter that goes in a bit further and gives infinity focus, so there should be enough room. I can't speak for other adapters or OM1 cameras, but it's definitely possible with the MFT flange distances.

looks promising ,still being beta tested.Note in the comments "photojoegraphy" claims it works on his Z8 And Z6III.

Just curious what advantage the cine versions would bring in your application over the stills versions, particularly for the price bump ? Are they parfocal or have significant reduction in focus breathing ? Or are you looking at having wireless motor FIZ control with a Nucleus etc?

For anyone that is interested anyway… The new Sigma AF cine lens pairing of 18-45mm T2 and the longer 28-105mm T3. These could be and are indeed of great interest to a run & gun hybrid shooter like me. The wider lens is internal zoom but the longer lens is not but having said that, it doesn’t extend much at all. Moderately chonky but nothing too outrageous. Probably going to replace 4 primes with this duo in 2027 for my pair of S1RII’s. Too much expense for me this year as I’m running a much tighter ship in ‘26 with my only purchases being a new drone (the old one flies too wonky after various err, ‘incidents’) and new wireless audio gear after a few issues with RODE WG2. But anyway, these new Sigmas look the business and I’d like to see some real world AF as the principal example they gave in their promo video is of a woman slowly wobbling towards the camera on a tripod in a studio…and that is not ‘real world’! Anyone else interested?

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I'm trying to figure out whether a shorter focal length C mount lens is safe in both an OM1 MKII and an E-P5 using a Fotodiox MFT-C adapter, mainly being concerned about sensor contact with IBIS movement and shutter hits.

Remember what kye wrote about ;- )

I mean, the lens mount makes it very adaptable, but not having auto focus seems like a big deal breaker.

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All hail Chinese camera menus! : ) A bit hard to beat Blackmagic anyway...

On the other hand, looks like Insta360 are leaking images of their own MFT camera... all speculation at this point, but it could also be a viable entry in the "small modern MFT camera" category. https://www.43rumors.com/the-mft-revolution-is-here-first-leaked-images-of-the-insta360-mft-camera/

I needed a colour sensor for a specific project (my primary camera being a M11M) and just picked up a G9ii - it’s a fun little thing. Seems well built and easily customised to play nicely with individual requirements. Even with a (Smallrig) cage it’s a convenient size (identical to LUMIX S range I think - although lenses are presumably smaller). Currently just the Lumix 14-42mm but plenty of exciting options. Until I read this thread it wasn’t really an option I’d have considered. Glad I can read!

Z6 III vs ZR, you said? Both are full frame, both use the Z mount, both have subject detection AF for 9 subject types, and both offer internal RAW up to 6K/60p. The Z6 III has a 24.5MP full-frame sensor, and the ZR also uses a 24.5MP full-frame partially stacked sensor with EXPEED 7. From there, though, the split becomes pretty obvious. The ZR is the one Nikon has shaped as a compact cinema camera. It gives you internal R3D NE, RED colour science, Log3G10 / REDWideGamutRGB, 32-bit float audio through the internal mic and 3.5mm jack, plus a 4.0-inch screen designed more for actual filming without leaning as heavily on external accessories. Nikon is very clearly positioning it as a compact cinema body. The Z6 III, on the other hand, is much more complete as a stills camera. It has a 5.76M-dot EVF, burst shooting up to 120fps, Pre-Release Capture, mechanical and electronic shutter options, and up to 8 stops of stabilisation with Focus Point VR. It is simply the more all-round camera of the two. Physically, the ZR is noticeably smaller and lighter at around 134 x 80.5 x 49mm and 540g body only, or 630g with battery and card, whereas the Z6 III is larger and heavier at roughly 138.5 x 101.5 x 74mm and 670g body only, or 760g with battery and card. The viewing setup also says a lot about the intent behind each one. The Z6 III has an electronic viewfinder and a 3.2-inch vari-angle screen. The ZR goes the other way with a 4.0-inch rear monitor and is not really being sold as an EVF-centered body at all, but as a video monitoring-first tool. Audio is another area where the ZR is in a different class, because the 32-bit float recording is a major selling point and still quite unusual in this form factor. The Z6 III has serious enough audio for video work, but that is not one of its defining features. Even the card slots tell the story. The Z6 III uses CFexpress/XQD plus SD UHS-II, while the ZR uses CFexpress/XQD plus microSD. That alone already says a lot about the difference in philosophy between a photographic hybrid and a compact cinema camera. The Z6 III is still the more rounded hybrid camera, while the ZR looks much more like a compact cinema body built primarily around video use. On paper they overlap in some important ways, because both sit in the same broad full-frame Z-mount ecosystem and both are clearly meant to appeal to shooters who care about strong video features, but the intent feels different. The Z6 III is the camera I’d look at first if the job includes serious stills as well as video, because it gives you the EVF, the more conventional hybrid ergonomics, the stronger photographic identity and a much more all-purpose way of working. The ZR, by contrast, seems aimed at the person who is leaning far more into filmmaking and wants a smaller cinema-oriented body, RED-style workflow influence, more specialised video tools and a more stripped-back approach that is less about being a do-everything camera and more about being a focused moving-image tool. That is really the core of it. The Z6 III is the safer all-rounder. The ZR is the more interesting specialist. So if somebody mainly shoots photo and video in equal measure, I’d say Z6 III. If they are really after a compact cinema camera in Nikon form, then the ZR is the one that makes more sense.

Some nice updates, but even if they were available in my country, I'm not sure there's anything in there that would make me upgrade from the Pocket 3 that I already have. I took the train to Chicago last weekend and made a short film with some friends and I brought the Pocket 3 and the Ursa Cine 12K LF. It turned out to be less of a crazy combo than one might think. HIgher maximum frame rate? 🤷‍♂️ Higher bitrate for video? Nice, but not a "buy now" 10-bit D-Log vs 10-bit D-Log M? Also nice, but not a "buy now" Higher resolution for photos? 🤷‍♂️

I think you're right. The 5D II has some sort of full frame 4K raw if I remember right, but that's well out of the price range. I think you mentioned the C70 in another comment - used prices on them are just about in your price range. If you don't anticipate shooting in >4K for any reason, the C70 is really a hell of a camera. The DGO sensor + somewhat soft OLPF really makes some of the loveliest images that I've ever seen. Canon's focal reducer can also be locked onto the front with screws so anything that can adapt to EF will look full frame-ish. Built-in ND's are fantastic. Though it lacks IBIS. I really don't think it's the camera for you, but the DGO sensor is a really big deal. You understood right and I was just flat-out wrong. My mistake, sorry about that! A Z6 III that costs less than a ZR? As dreamy as the small size of the ZR is, for me, that'd be an easy choice. Sheesh!

Very small mice are operating pulleys to physically move the lenses in and out of focus. Hang on, it’s not mice it’s small motors. Nikon’s FTZ adapter takes care of the AF Nikkors and for manual focus ones you just use the M mount one with additional M to F adapter stacked. And indeed the same for any other type such as C/Y and M42 etc that have M adapters. The other Z mount adapter that you may or not be interested in is the MegaDap E mount adapter which opens up the world of small and affordable primes. There is even a Fuji X to Z adapter which is obviously only for APS-C lenses but would come in handy if your additional down the line Z camera was the not at all shit Z50ii. It would be a tacit admission that the end is nigh 😂

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It seems to be the case. Pretty amazing what Nikon has accomplished in the past few years. That is a pretty cool feature, even though my mind cannot grasp how the Techart is accomplishing it. I had a quick look on BH and they only seem to have an EF to Z and a Leica M to Z... do they make an F to Z? The M mount one is kinda interesting because the more I get into shooting film, the more I have become interested in an M6 or earlier model... again completely perverse for my needs considering I usually shoot with an FE or the random Pentax/Canon/Minolta camera, but there's just something unique with a rangefinder. Speaking of the FE... the FE/FM variants are damn near perfect cameras for stills for the type of stuff I shoot so as I started researching Z mount cameras, I almost forgot about the ZF and I instantly got a little excited about it... even though it lacks a lot of the video requirements I want for a hybrid... but so does the ZR... anyway after a quick search I found this... Then I searched for a size comparison of the ZF vs. the DF and other than the grip, they were basically the same size... I thought mirrorless was supposed to give us smaller, lighter bodies. I mean my GH6 is only a little smaller than my 5D3... What a joke in some ways... Rant over. The Z8 would be amazing, but I don't know if I could do it. I think I'd rather have a ZR/ZF combo or just a Z6iii. Maybe if I could figure out a way to make some money from this stuff, a Z8 could be in my future... but then that would open a whole new set of possibilities... an R6iii/C50 or C70 combo... And this is the problem I have been dealing with since I started this hobby. No camera meets all my needs (wants) but it's obscene for me to really have more than one camera. Another off topic rant... I've been seeing social media posts from the filmmaker Pete Ohs... I posted about him a long time ago because he made a film a year with a 5D Mark iii with ML Raw and his films were screened at SXSW and Sundance and they all got some type of distribution deal... well he's still making at least a film a year... his films are still being screened at SXSW and Sundance and he still gets distribution deals and he still makes his films using his 5D Mark iii with ML Raw and when asked, his reason is... "that's the camera I own." I immediately feel like an a complete asshole for chasing these other cameras. Of course, he's a tripod guy with very static shots that he shoots in basically one location (or very few) whereas I am trying to shoot more run and gun and stealing locations whenever possible., so I've realized how important IBIS is to my style of shooting and AF on some level... but not as important... END RANT. Anyway, I'm still in my early phase of thinking this through. I guess if I was smart, I'd dust off my tripod and shoot with my 5D or FP... or learn how to grade Log footage and use the GH6... but I really want 32 bit float audio and R3D/ProRes files... or nRaw/ProRes files... and IBIS in FF with some halfway decent AF... is that too much to ask? first world problems... Do it!!! You're a Nikon guy at heart it seems and you've been taking about it for a while... how nice would it be to have your "forever camera?"

Good to know, thanks. All of my Nikon lenses are non-ai/ai/ai-s but I did see that the special edition of the 50mm 1.8G is available refurbished from Nikon for $199... so that's kind of interesting. Of course the 40mm f/2 Z is only a little more, so it'd be a little redundant. Either way, it's good to know that option is available. Do you know if the EF adapters for Canon R cameras have the same level of consistency as the Nikon adapter does? Also are there good portrait, AF-S G lenses that are relatively inexpensive but still good lenses... say 85-105mm?