Nikon Zr is coming

[ND64]

38 minutes ago, Jahleh said:

According to CineD S1ii seems to have quite heavy NR baked in, unless you shoot Prores Raw and edit in Final Cut.  

I think that NR was a unavoidable side effect of the algorithm they used to combine the two images.

40 minutes ago, Jahleh said:

As seen from those same charts, from ISO 800 to 6400, where NLog is shot, S1ii has DR of 12.6 to 10 with NR, and Z6iii DR of 12.3 to 9.6, without NR

Right, after ISO 800 (6400 in log profile), there is practically no difference, because both are at their High Gain territory. DR boost only works at Low Gain ISO. 

[eatstoomuchjam]

1 hour ago, ND64 said:

Its in DR boost mode that for whatever reason Nikon didn't use. Slop based DR is irrelevant as it doesn't represent the "engineering dynamic range" of the sensor, which is at 1:1 signal ratio. 

The engineering DR range in the DR boost mode is well above 12 on the S1 II, nearly 16-bit, even.  And when you say "Nikon didn't use," you mean on the Z6 III, right?  And not on this upcoming camera that nobody has seen yet and which may use sensor modes that weren't used on the Z6 III?

I'm not going to argue any more about a camera that nobody's seen, but outside of "has Redcode," or "uses a Red sensor," it's kind of hard to imagine what Nikon would claim makes the camera a hybrid with Red.  Nikon's colors are already very nice so "has Red colors" would be basically garbage for advertising.

[Jahleh]

25 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

I am in that camp and very happy with the current offerings and the lens line up...so hope the ZR is awful so I won't *need* to flip to Nikon.

Being happy in whatever camp is important. With Nikon and it’s lens options it can get expensive and out of hands quickly😆

Got 135 f1.8 Plena in the Spring, to prevent any ideas of changing back to Panny or Canon.
The Z6iii firmware was also updated at the same time, and need of NR in low light was gone, as was the flickering.

Not sure Panny has something like the Plena. Shooting with that is a pleasure always, and it takes good photos too.

Found also a used 400mm f4.5 before the price hike, and now I am quite firmly in the Nikon camp. Been shooting all year mostly N-Raw, to see how much space it takes. Editing N-Raw is quite easy now with M3 max 128GB and 3x4TB Nvme’s. No complaints about the DR and just happy about the results IQ wise. 
Hope the ZR is not too big step up from Z6iii, as this shift to Nikon has cost some already😂

[MrSMW]

2 hours ago, Jahleh said:

Not sure Panny has something like the Plena. Shooting with that is a pleasure always, and it takes good photos too.

No they don’t as such…but Sigma do and Leica have a 135 f2 APO in the works, but the price of that will make the Plena seem ‘cheap’.

Just a couple of years ago, I thought the weak link in L Mount was the lenses and whilst I think there are a couple of holes still, I’ve gone round in a big circle and ended up with a set of f1.8 primes, the; 18,35,50 and 85 and with the addition of a 28-70 and a 70-200, over 4 bodies, I’ve got all bases covered for my needs, video and stills.

2 hours ago, Jahleh said:

Being happy in whatever camp is important

For sure. I wrestled with all kinds of combos of brands, bodies, lenses and each time I thought I’d found my best set up, I found flaws if not outright issues.

In the end, I decided to just go back to basics and creativity has shot up as a result. As has logistics, workflow and a load of other basics.

I have no further needs and instead, only wishes and intentions and none of those are kit related.