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Newsflash: Almost every large company is run like this. Once a company achieves a certain scale, old school management principles come into play. A strict hierarchy is established and innovative minds

These staff comments give an insight into what it is like work for the camera companies and for those who stayed many years, how their career prospects fared. For Blackmagic and Canon around 40%

when i joined the forum all the talk was about the  p4k. Stylish was not a word that came up often,  but that didn't bother me. i came from dslr's so the p4k design didn't seem to dissimilar from a ds

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13 minutes ago, anonim said:

As far as is written Apple promised that mighty iPhone 11 will have 625 nit screen. Actually, BM screen is around the same max nit value. Anything less than 1000 is unusable on sunny day.

So it is 625?

Or 1290?

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The iPhone 11 has a bog standard LCD panel with no HDR.

The iPhone 11 Pro is the one i am talking about http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone_11Pro_ShootOut_1P.htm

This is a modern high end smartphone screen.

This is what cameras should have. It's that simple.

It shouldn't be that your $800 smartphone has a better screen than your $2800 cinema camera.

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2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

So it is 625?

Or 1290?

I don't know - I have Alcatel from 2012 :)

Apple promises a maximum brightness of 625 nits for the iPhone 11 and screen contrast ratio of 1400:1. We measured 644 nits of maximum brightness and combined with the not so dark blacks, the contrast ratio turned out 1500:1.

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Surprised Blackmagic haven't considered the screen from your Alcatel yet

Samsung S7 screen costs $50 at retail if bought in bulk, far cheaper for Blackmagic if you are ordering 1000's in a business wholesale arrangement.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000046577679.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7fc822667Gjhv8&algo_pvid=2b301ae6-b9d3-45b6-ab7b-e8631e2ea891&algo_expid=2b301ae6-b9d3-45b6-ab7b-e8631e2ea891-9&btsid=0b0a050115816967028701506e0e24&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Specs:

2560x1440

5" AMOLED

At least 900 nits

So why are we stuck with the horseshit that is the Pocket 4K and 6K LCD panel?

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How is that offensive?

Pointing to a spare part on ebay?

You are a very weird man :)

2018 standard was the iPhone X with HDR OLED panel, very bright and visible outdoors.

Samsung S7 AMOLED is from 2016, would be a massive improvement on what Blackmagic provides in 2020 on the Pocket 6K.

All I am saying is.... It's a joke. An absolute joke. We are being diddled or they don't know what they're doing, one of the two, or even maybe both!

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I guess they think as I wrote - screen is bonus for 1200$, average 500-600 nit, even 1000 external monitors are not so common.

But it seems they actually robbed so many of us for 1200$ with their black magic that even not give best and more power hungry screen at the moment.

And what rests than to use non-offensive paraphrase: surprised Blackmagic haven't considered superior common sense attempts from you, instead of my weird Alcatel-level one.

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11 hours ago, IronFilm said:

what if they implement IBIS worse than Sony? No thanks

We want Panasonic levels of IBIS!

Well based on the rumored specs they are saying 8 stops with a OIS lens so thats even better than Olympus! I’m skeptical. Because it’s 5 stops with just IBIS (which is Sony levels) and then suddenly jumps to 8 stops with a OIS lens...so I think they are doing something funky.

Olympus IBIS gets you 6.5 with just IBIS and then a small bump when paired with a OIS lens...maxing out at 7.5.

Canon has to be using some kind of aggressive EIS to get to 8 stops. 

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2 hours ago, KnightsFan said:

Battery life is already atrocious, maybe a brighter screen would make it completely unusable?

Engineering challenge

Problem = Battery life is atrocious.

Solution = ???

Engineering meeting at Blackmagic = ??????????

CEO of Blackmagic = ????? You're promoted

Outcome = Battery life is still atrocious.

Actual solution = A larger and better battery! Who would have though that? Certainly not normal people like me, way beyond my intelligence.

Bonus information

OLEDs are actually far more power efficient than LCD. No backlight.

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It's not a question about powering just screen but powering balance in system as whole. And it's hard for me to see why it is question addressed to camera maker that made still one and first breakthrough to 5 inch screen in comparative cameras world.

OLEDs are much more sensitive to heat (here from inside camera processes), especially regarding more pronounced danger of burn-in images.

Really, why BM engineers didn't use respectively the most expensive and more vulnerable screen technology two years ago, found a place for NFP 9900 battery, why they didn't consider electronic viewfinder, hinge-on screen and find  at the same time way how to protect themselves not to be criticized why body is not more boxy? 

Maybe answer is that they just wanted to keep price at 1300$ P4K level with 60p 4k RAW, USB disk writing, full HD 5 inch extremely sensitive-accurate screen, slot for CFAST card, invention of n in house brilliant codec, give free Resolve, free firmware anamorphic updates, with well founded strategic idea to sell bigger quantity for lowest possible comparative profit margin - and not to fulfill all our dreams?

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1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

Engineering challenge

Problem = Battery life is atrocious.

Solution = ???

Engineering meeting at Blackmagic = ??????????

CEO of Blackmagic = ????? You're promoted

Outcome = Battery life is still atrocious.

Actual solution = A larger and better battery! Who would have though that? Certainly not normal people like me, way beyond my intelligence.

Bonus information

OLEDs are actually far more power efficient than LCD. No backlight.

Yeah it’s kinda crazy there are literally billions of devices out there with small OLED screens in small form factors and a camera company, any of them, can’t see the benefit of delivering a screen bigger than 4” or, at the very least, a bright 4” OLED panel.

But then again I don’t know many people that have dropped more than $500 on a stand-alone camera...

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49 minutes ago, anonim said:

Maybe hard to understand answer is that they just wanted to keep price at 1300$ P4K level with 60p 4k RAW, USB disk writing, full HD 5 inch extremely sensitive-accurate screen, slot for CFAST card, invention of n in house brilliant codec, give free Resolve, free firmware anamorphic updates, with well founded strategic idea to sell bigger quantity for lowest possible comparative profit margin - and not to fulfill all our dreams?

OK let's look at it this way... They do 4K 60p RAW, USB SSD recording, full HD 5" screen, CFast, BRAW, Resolve for free, anamorphic updates and then...

Go and let it down by using the wrong BATTERY?!

And forget that people need to be able to see the screen IN DAYLIGHT

I still think this was Steve Jobs real genius, forget the creativity, the ideas and the founding of Apple... It was his ability to see the BLOODY OBVIOUS and call people up on it before it was too late and the product was out.

According to GlassDoor, Grant Petty makes all the decisions and no department moves an inch until he signs stuff off...

So there you go... Somebody take Grant out on an actual shoot with the Pocket 6K and get him to realise what a pigs ear it is to use, then maybe, just maybe, Pocket 8K will have a proper battery and LCD backlight in it.

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I really got it and agree (who would not) - it would be much better if/that Pocket cameras have 1000 nit screen.

But here I see two moments - first, it becomes discussion in absolute terms, and to my logic I find it ok just if BM is used merely as represent of all camera makers. Because there's no any better screen anywhere in comparative camera world, actually it seems that BM has the best one quality at the moment, and surely quasi revolutionary the biggest. Every camera that I had was unusable 3.x inch screen in daylight, and seems that it is trend to be continued with so called beasts and monsters.

Second, I think it's no so easy to comment all engineering tasks without being extremely high specialized in every of aspects (including mutual dependency) of their multi collaborative work. As everybody know better than me, camera is now highly sophisticated computer, heat dissipator and transmitter, optical instrument, net of different wired and wired protocols, field of chips etc - so it is easily possible that any mm more in body size (battery wise) makes the whole out of balance, especially when goal is to keep it "pocket".

Third, I can comment Grant Petty even professionally, but I'm afraid that my CEO here will send me again  Amy Winehouse as  lovely gift :)

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15 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Truly the lightweight camp with me as well, I never want to pick up an Alexa, it's a camera for a crew on a set. It isn't for documentary or one-one man auteur projects.


I've many times worked on documentary shoots, with a minimal skeleton crew of just myself (sound), DoP, and director and we're shooting on the likes of an AMIRA or Alexa Mini. It's doable. 

 

2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Go and let it down by using the wrong BATTERY?!

 

I've always thought of the battery in the BMD cameras (except for URSA series, which are V Mount) as an added bonus. As no matter of you're using a BMCC, BMPC4K, Micro, or any of the Pockets, the internal battery is just there to allow you hot swapping of external batteries. Very handy indeed! Or for super stripped lightweight shooting in short burst, specialised shots such as gimbals or car rigs. 

 

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2 hours ago, anonim said:

I really got it and agree (who would not) - it would be much better if/that Pocket cameras have 1000 nit screen.

But here I see two moments - first, it becomes discussion in absolute terms, and to my logic I find it ok just if BM is used merely as represent of all camera makers. Because there's no any better screen anywhere in comparative camera world, actually it seems that BM has the best one quality at the moment, and surely quasi revolutionary the biggest. Every camera that I had was unusable 3.x inch screen in daylight, and seems that it is trend to be continued with so called beasts and monsters.

Second, I think it's no so easy to comment all engineering tasks without being extremely high specialized in every of aspects (including mutual dependency) of their multi collaborative work. As everybody know better than me, camera is now highly sophisticated computer, heat dissipator and transmitter, optical instrument, net of different wired and wired protocols, field of chips etc - so it is easily possible that any mm more in body size (battery wise) makes the whole out of balance, especially when goal is to keep it "pocket".

Third, I can comment Grant Petty even professionally, but I'm afraid that my CEO here will send me again  Amy Winehouse as  lovely gift :)

Yes I'm afraid she is coming out again

kill me suicide GIF

All I know is that I can see the image on my S1H screen outside, but not my Pocket 4K

I don't even think of it as a complicated issue.

Grant picked the wrong part on Aliexpress.

11 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

I've many times worked on documentary shoots, with a minimal skeleton crew of just myself (sound), DoP, and director and we're shooting on the likes of an AMIRA or Alexa Mini. It's doable. 

Of course it;'s doable but is it necessary or even pleasant and by the way how's your back afterwards?

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