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Atomos Ninja V - Problem with Input Gamma?


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On 3/21/2020 at 10:48 AM, androidlad said:

Atomos AtomOS 10.3 update for the Ninja V finally FINALLY added HDMI Full-to-Legal range conversion on the recorded input!!

https://www.atomos.com/firmware/ninja-v

Unfortunately NLE rec709 monitoring thru dedicated video card is totally off in firmware 10.3 vs firmware 10.2. I had to downgrade in order to be able to monitor the output signal. Values on waveform monitor and other meters are correct but image on screen is off with reduced dynamic range and very dim.

When output is recorded and viewed in NLE values return to normal and legalize switch activated recording shows  correct signal values is the on screen image that is off. Unusable for monitoring NLE output.

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On 3/21/2020 at 5:48 AM, androidlad said:

Atomos AtomOS 10.3 update for the Ninja V finally FINALLY added HDMI Full-to-Legal range conversion on the recorded input!!

https://www.atomos.com/firmware/ninja-v

It's actually a backwards terrible solution. Instead of properly displaying and recording the Full Range it converts it into legal range, throwing out data.

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4 hours ago, Fernando Monge Ganuzas said:

Unfortunately NLE rec709 monitoring thru dedicated video card is totally off in firmware 10.3 vs firmware 10.2. I had to downgrade in order to be able to monitor the output signal. Values on waveform monitor and other meters are correct but image on screen is off with reduced dynamic range and very dim.

When output is recorded and viewed in NLE values return to normal and legalize switch activated recording shows  correct signal values is the on screen image that is off. Unusable for monitoring NLE output.

Check the Ninja V monitoring setting, some default settings were moved around/changed, I didn't notice any difference in NLE output monitoring.

 

46 minutes ago, Geoff CB said:

It's actually a backwards terrible solution. Instead of properly displaying and recording the Full Range it converts it into legal range, throwing out data.

Haha no. It's just a flag in ProRes metadata, no data is ever thrown out, not before or after this update.

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