Shell64

Apparently xt3 has amazing 120p. If you can live with micro for thirds gh5 has fabulous 1080p. It is oversampled up to 60p and still very nice at 120p. Also at a very nice 10 bit codec and the best ibis you’ve ever used. Again, only Micro 4/3 and lowlight sucks

2 hours ago, docmoore said:

https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon-eos-c100-mark-ii-w-dual-pixel-cmos-af

Any camera is a compromise but the EOS Cinema cameras are wonderful for this type of shooting. Add a monopod

and a lens with IS ....

C100 II is so nice if you don’t need 4K. Basically perfect with everything you want. Beautiful, detailed, organic image, c-log that a two year old can grade and get good results, canon color, built in ND filter, dual xlr inputs with very high quality preamps, no overprocessing or over sharpening. If you don’t need 4K it is about as no compromising as it gets. 

Let’s just say my favorite color is no longer RED

1 minute ago, docmoore said:

The new firmware (2.01) for the Z6 and Z7 addresses a couple of bugs in the previous eye AF firmware upgrade (2.0)

This is not the highly anticipated Raw upgrade ....

I don’t know why this takes so long. Would’ve been much easier if they have us DNG raw internal, but they want that $$ from brand deals

The e2c is a cheap version of the e2. It shoots 10 bit 4K and will eventually shoot raw for less than $1000. I kinda want one lol

It also restricts 1080p 30 and 60fps to 20 and 27 minutes. Weird. AVCHD still has no record limit for me. And 4K has no limit at 24 and 30fps. 

18 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Here is the video. It doesn't state Anything about Raw. Just 10bit 4K 30p.

 

Disappointing.  It’s as if the raw announcement was marketing hype to gain sales. The z6 isn’t a bad camera but with the s1 being similarly priced to the z6+ninja v and the bmpcc4k being significantly cheaper, lots of people bought the camera probably because of the raw announcement. I feel bad for all of you who did so. Honestly they may never announce it. 

Yes the idea behind a phone is it could also serve as an upgrade to my iPhone 5s while being a wide-angle b-cam. In the end then it would save me money and filmic pro log v2 does really good in terms of dynamic range. 

2 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Yeah, it's a little bit of an abundance opening so many similar threads, should've just stuck to one. xD

I know my bad   My first posts had to be verified and the first g7 thread wasn’t verified my a moderator so I opened a second and here we are. I’ll keep it to one thread if you all want to move this discussion to the one with 5+pages. 

I can confirm that the unlimited 4K recording hack works on the latest Panasonic g7 firmware. V 2.2

Yeah all-I only really is easier to work with on pc unless the Bitrate is vastly higher. 

6 minutes ago, Mako Sports said:

They wont do internal ND, there isn't space for it.

There was space in the fs5 which had the same lens mount and same flange distance. It is totally possible. 

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

For me the master of deep depth of field photography is the iPhone.

On a large sensor, the whole point for me is fast apertures and that subject separation even at a distance. Very three dimensional.

I wish somebody would do another Digital Bolex for when I want deep DOF cinema.

Maybe, maybe not. What if it's all just coolaid marketing from Sony... And the real reason for the no-show, is that the A7S II didn't sell all that well compared to the others and cannibalised some of their FS sales too. If that's the case maybe Sony are just not giving the project the priority it deserves, which is why it's taking so long.

Who knows...

Just have to wait and see.

It's very disappointing to have to wait 4 years though... Given the innovation showed by others (Fuji, Panasonic, Blackmagic, even Nikon.)

It's a nice list isn't it... Reads like our unrealistic dream wish lists from just 2 years ago.

Here's how Sony can add to it:

Better AF
Built in ND

Erm. That's about it. I don't need 8K. I am not sure what else they will bring in the A7S III that will be more useful and practical than being able to focus and expose properly without hassle.

I don’t want 8k either. An internal nd and some form of 10 bit / raw would seal the deal. Unless it is $4000 and only records 8bit 4:2:0 internal and 10 bit 4:2:2 external. The gh4 was doing this in 2014 and can be had for $600

Mistake on my part about the different threads. Let’s keep all conversations here. 

31 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I've lost track of all the simultaneous conversations about this G7 to be honest so was answering the right question in the wrong thread or the wrong question in the right thread.

 

Sorry I should’ve kept it to one. Will do so in the future

Just now, mercer said:

It’s my understanding it’s better.  Some people are using it as b-cam for their C100. 

Is it at a similar level to my g7?  Cause similar quality but fantastic DPAF would be nice. I don’t use 4K nearly as much as I thought I would. 

The tz100 would be neat. I could also put it in my pocket when I want to travel light. 

If I were to upgrade my g7 instead of buying a second camera, what would be a good upgrade?  If it’s really good 1080 that is fine. I shoot 1080 on my g7 most of the time. 

How is the 1080p compared to the sl2 or 70d?  Is it really that bad?  

Really impressive, but it needs to be smooth like DPAF. Right now it looks way too jumpy to be usable. Any chance this will happen?  Either way, this is still insanely impressive!  Would love one of these on my g7!

59 minutes ago, mercer said:

Most cameras are more expensive than a used G7. I don’t know if the CineLikeD hack works with the GX850, but maybe that’s an option... @BTM_Pix ?

I had a G7, a GX85 and a G85, and if I were to go back to Panasonic, at that price range, I’d go with the G85. In fact, if I were @Shell64 , I’d consider selling my G7, buying a G85 and getting a GX85 as my B-Cam.

Good deal... now use the profit from a GH4 sale, to help fund the GH5.

The gx850 is a no go because they severely hampered it. It has an identical sensor to the g7 but they disabled manual video and any control over the picture profile settings. 

I can only afford to either upgrade my g7 or buy a b-cam, not do both. 

Agreed. Especially if you only need 1080p. The quality is a lot better than previous low end canons and you get fantastic DPAF and canon colors. Part of me wants this over my g7 as I mainly shoot 1080p on it. 

You must be getting good use out of it then

Yes, an external monitor is key for manual focusing. On my g7 I can’t use an external monitor while recording so I have to focus off of the tiny lcd screen. I end up missing focus a lot when i am outside because of how bright it is. It also doesn’t help that panasonic’s implementation of focus peaking is crap, and is barely effective unless you are shooting a super contrasts scene. 

Did you like the a7rii?  Would you still recommend it for video?  

Yeah the lx100 is appealing because the lens alone is better than the 12-35 2.8. Instead of buying that lens for my g7 I can get another camera thrown in for free!  Seriously considering that or a Panasonic fz1000

A gh1 is $90

A phone with 4K 100mbps log is $0

And the canon 1dc is sub 3k

and the c100 is $800

and 2.5k RAW video with the eos m is $120

These are crazy times to get into filmmaking. There really are no excuses other than laziness. Back in the day we dreamed to have what these cameras offered for $4000. Now we can get these features for $120. WHAT DA HECK!?

Yeah another g7 would be nice. Though the lx100 has a lens that is better than the Panasonic 12-35 2.8, so it’d be like getting a g7 and a free 12-35. 

I could just get a better camera like a g85 or Sony a6400 and reserve the g7 as a b-cam. 

Mayby I should just invest in better lenses, lights, etc, instead of a second camera. because I’m pretty new to this and don’t have a ton of gear. Thanks for the advice though, it really helped.