MrSMW

My use probably (the opposite of ‘serious’ video use) and right now a very strong contender. Hybrid photo/video wedding capture where I rarely shoot anything longer than 10 seconds, ie, typically around 150x 10 second clips over a 10 hour day (plus around 3000 still images) spread over 2 cameras. Camcorder for long stuff such as ceremony & speeches. A pair of either with 28-70 f2 and 85 f2 could be a perfect match. But it’s an expensive solution for me and currently ranked third behind Nikon & Fuji so will see where we are in Spring 2021.

Heat exhaustion. Allegedly.

Plus if we had any work to be getting on with... 🤪 Too much time for too much speculating on speculations and spec! I'm just as guilty as the next fella and have a list for 2021! Fuji currently tops it, Nikon is a close second and Canon hanging in there in third...but all the specs & speculating aside, I'm not pushing any buttons or making any decisions until Spring 2021 and these things actually exist, - XH2, Z6s, R5/6.

I had a 5 Silver once and quite liked it. Ended up selling it to a colleague as I wasn't using it. Went with the Action last year and thought it produced really good results...for those few times I did use it, but the reality for me was that on a fast-paced wedding day, it was just one extra bit of kit too far to operate as a one man band as I was already juggling; 2x hybrid cameras, 1 camcorder, 1 drone, multiple audio set ups, lighting etc... I don't have any use outside of work so it's just been sitting here since last October.

Just for you @sandro

France. PM me if interested as I was going to put it up on eBay next week at a bit more than that.

What about a cheap used, but near mint DJI OSMO Action for 150 euros including a set of ND filters? I just happen to have one for sale and for sale for no other reason than I just haven't used it as I thought I would. Used it 3 times in total!

I answer the phone to cold callers as "Chow Yun Fat, International Movie Star, what can I do for you?". Yes, I do. Confuses the fuck out of the person trying to sell me a new kitchen. Other times, I try and sell them wedding photography but that also confuses them. Buuuuuuuuuuut otherwise, as above, agree with all that, - society is just becoming so shallow. It changes all the time because it has to change but currently it's heading in a pretty horrible direction. The thing I always ask myself is, "who are these people?" because I don't know any of them!

I used to ignore Markus Pix if it came up in my YouTube suggestions simply because he looked like a grown up 1970's Californian boy pop star...but actually, he has a decent channel and some of his stuff is quite interesting. He sort of does his own thing and doesn't seem to be selling anything ie, no obvious agenda other than running his channel and having some fun doing it.

The first is a classic film. The second is classic Lok wideo.

Hmmm..... Don't use auto exposure? Don't try and use IBIS as a replacement for a gimbal? Use a camcorder for recording longer static pieces?

Sorry, did I say 'FREE TITS'? I thought I had typed 'FERRETS' but this damned spell correct.

I make cat videos. Would this be any good?

Views have just gone up. They missed a trick here... Titled ‘Modern Art Twat Production’ and no one will watch it, but if it had been titled, ‘CLICK HERE FOR FREE TITS!!!!!” then maybe Olympus would not be up for sale.

I think that whatever it is, they will take the opportunity to drop the word 'pocket' and use 'backpack' instead.

I hear you @Danyyyel and agree that the Z6s could be just about perfect. For my needs anyway and their lens line up is great; 20mm, 35mm and 85mm f1.8’s over 2 bodies... Nails it for me. Nikon underwhelmed a bit when they launched their mirrorless but I agree in that they do seem underrated and overlooked. I think there has been more than a bit of an element of going stir crazy these last 3-4 months which has given most of us too much time to overthink stuff in absence of doing. I just wrote a list of what I need and am sticking to that and trying not to listen to the noise.

This was funnier than the Adolf Hitler rants bunker parody about PB’s cats.

My approach is very simple also: Shoot in 4k 60p so I can slow down any piece of footage anywhere and crop in far harder than I could if I shot 1080. I think that is the beauty of shooting 4k, - not to output it as such necessarily, but to have a higher quality and more flexible starting point. Batch convert to ProRes so my PC/Premiere can handle h.265 and overnight whilst sleeping, ie, takes 'zero actual working time'. Output at 1080 for everything, job done. Same as the above poster, - I am under no illusions that I am creating a Hollywood or even Indie Art House movie, but a 9-12 minute wedding film that's going to be watched on a phone. Or a laptop. Or even a large 4k TV where still no one will 'notice' anything. No one has ever even asked for 4k or discussed it. Ever.

I have 3 subscribers to mine. I think I'm doing it wrong.

Hold THAT thought...

I just want to tie him to a chair, get out the hair clippers and have at it. Maybe make a YouTube video about it...

Well now I have had time to look closer at and consider it, for my needs, it has to be a contender...if not the outright current leader. I'm a hybrid wedding shooter and I estimate I'm shooting maybe 70-75% stills and 25-30% video clips, rarely longer than 10 seconds, throughout a typical 9-12 hour day. I habitually switch off between shots/clips. Always have done as a Fuji shooter so would almost certainly continue that practise. Ideally, I'd like to replace what was 3 bodies and is now 2 with just a single and the R5 plus 28-70mm f2 plus battery grip with; 4k 60p 10 bit internal, backup/write 2 card slots, great IBIS, great AF, great colour... Closest I can get right now is XT4 with 16-55mm f2.8 with a couple of IBIS and AF niggles, greater lens range, but a couple of stops less DOF. I'm looking forward to some real world, non-sponsored reviews over the next up to 9 months and also waiting to see what Nikon's Z6s and Fujis XH2 are and then will make a decision but for my needs, I think we are just about there. I'll continue using a camcorder on a tripod for longer stuff such as ceremonies and speeches, though may update what it is to something more capable than I have now. I realistically think this whole overheating this IS an issue, but only for longer and continual type use, but time will tell...

@AndrewReid will you be getting the Panasonic G-100 for vlogging and agree it is the greatest camera launch of this year? If not all time. Or do you think the Canon R5 will be the ‘hottest’ camera of COVID-2020?

Don’t they say ‘within it’s class’ and these 2 cameras are in no way compar... hang on a minute... I’ve noticed this kind of thing before though. *updated* post crossover above saying the same thing!