Video Hummus

The R5 may very likely end up with 1DXM3 specs and a 3,999 price tag. Think of it as Canon’s flagship mirrorless camera. The 1DX is a whole other market segment. It’s primary a pro sports camera with fast shutters and an optical viewfinder for all people that just don’t care to switch to mirrorless. The R5 is for the wedding photographers/videographers that don’t need speed so much as a reliable autofocusing hybrid. The R6 will be for more casual shooters who want something more than a Rebel but don’t want to shell out 4K + 2K for a body lens combo. I think canon understands not many people hand a DSLR form factor anymore.

A dual-gain, ~33.2ish MP, BSI sensor would solve most of your problems. I don’t think their is a need for a S35 camera from Panasonic. If they can push up to 6400 iso clean and 10,000 ISO useable that is more than enough for most people. Especially since we are getting better and better noise reduction for still shooters. I also think we are more likely to see 8K in an open gate 4:3 only offering. Which is fine by me. That would give you 8K anamorphic and 8K video to do a 4K 16:9 crop in however you like. They could also do something seriously cool with open gate 4:3 8K and advanced EIS for super smooth 4K or 1080p. That’s a lot of room to let the edges warp and keep the center 16:9 area crop steady. They have to do something special because the market is heating up and the FF frenzy is full swing. I actually think we are only going to see vague teasers this year for the GH6 to let people know it’s coming. But I think the release will be next year. Not sure there are any compelling enough 4:3 sensors from Sony.

Shit, my 36 hour static still life video will burn in?

The iPhone is clearly built to correct for our Presidents skin “tone”.

The competition in 2020 is finally caught up to the 2017 GH5.

Canon’s product development announcement is working as intended.

Yeah it’s kinda crazy there are literally billions of devices out there with small OLED screens in small form factors and a camera company, any of them, can’t see the benefit of delivering a screen bigger than 4” or, at the very least, a bright 4” OLED panel. But then again I don’t know many people that have dropped more than $500 on a stand-alone camera...

That’s 25% of their profit gone!

Well based on the rumored specs they are saying 8 stops with a OIS lens so thats even better than Olympus! I’m skeptical. Because it’s 5 stops with just IBIS (which is Sony levels) and then suddenly jumps to 8 stops with a OIS lens...so I think they are doing something funky. Olympus IBIS gets you 6.5 with just IBIS and then a small bump when paired with a OIS lens...maxing out at 7.5. Canon has to be using some kind of aggressive EIS to get to 8 stops.

I'm happy with the lowlight performance of MFT with regards to the GH5S. Gives us a GH6 with a dual gain sensor thats performs a bit better and it will be good as a A7III or A7SII....and no one complained about their performance. I've shot candle lit scenes in a cabin in Norway with a f2.8 12-35 at ISO 6400 to 8000 on the GH5S. A few shots at 8000 needed some noise reduction that took about 5 mins of my time to process. I've shot video of Elk with a 50-200mm f/2.8-4 at dusk on the GH5S at 200mm f/4 ISO 3200-6400 with a monopod. Video came out great. I had other photographers and video people there too lugging around 400mm FF and crop lenses...they absolutely HATED to re-position. I wonder why? So I no longer fret about lowlight ability with the GH5S. IF the GH6 can take what they did with the GH5S and improve upon it, I am more than happy. Especially if I get glorious IBIS and full V-Log. I have never yet needed to shoot something wider than 18mm and faster than f1.7. When I do I guess I'll buy one of the new Laowa f0.95 ZeroD primes that are coming out this year. I prefer to have my humans subject's eyes and ears in-focus in my talking head shots. If you shoot f1.2 FF like Tony...well god help you.

Interesting....

This is why the IBIS in a Canon (finally) is going to be so attractive and hard to pass up even with a bit of crippling in other specs. Battery life weather resistance is also extremely important to me. Some of the best shots are in adverse conditions.

The obsession with the “large sensor look”. Which, ok granted, you can get shallower depth of field with wider lenses with a larger sensor. But the quest to blur the background out is definitely missing the point of “cinema” and while we are not all chasing to do “cinema” the extreme shallow depth of field is becoming almost cliche and meme worthy. Not to mention there are other concerns at play like overall weight, packability, friction-to-use.

That’s just the SDK to work with BRAW...for NLE developers. EDIT: Actually, your right. BRAw and the SDK are free for companies to use for products.

@Andrew Reid with all the rumors and hype I say you start a betting system. People can put money down on the “rumored” features. Higher payout for rumors more unlikely (like 4K120p). You take a small percentage commission on all the bets. You make more money than YouTube AdSense ever would make you. 🤣 Proceeds go to buying the camera on release for an in-depth review.

Canon if your reading...this is your demographic. It seems Sony users (having switched from something else) have no problem investing to “come home”.

This camera has been so hyped and delayed and anticipated that I’m afraid whatever they do will disappoint. Unless they add internal NDs and RAW or something crazy.

I haven’t really run into this problem with my GH5S but I have a habit of hitting record and then directing the actor or talking about how I want the scene to play out before I put my eye up to the view finder or look at the screen. And like fuzz said, I always look at the timecode to confirm I’m recording. A side benefit of this is inline voice memos in my footage lol.

I hope this puts a fire under the butts of Panasonic to really come out swinging (maybe for the last time) with a MFT camera that does the GH line proud. It has to compete with BM cameras as far as codec and Image quality. They could do it by adding practical features that every person would use: internal NDs, improved IBIS, better AF, better screen and EVF, 6K options, and perhaps ProRes. If it needs a bigger body that’s fine. Most of the savings with MFT is in lenses (especially as you scale to telephoto). They already have small MFT GX10 coming...

Don’t forget about that insanely hard to develop and expensive 24p license that only canon has trouble with. Im pulling for them!

This is exciting but I’m checking my expectations at the door. This is Canon. There is almost always a deal breaker. I just can’t bring myself to believe The R5 will have useable specs above and beyond their LATEST 16K Cinema EOS camera. It sure looks to me that the IBIS mechanism is in the lens and they’re doing some kind of lens OIS and EIS to achieve the amazing 8 stops. Depending on how they implement it we could be seeing a large crop for the EIS. This theory makes even more sense when you see it’s like only 5 stops and then jumps to 8 stops with the R5. So this could mean: 1. New, expensive OIS lenses or... 2. Requires EIS to achieve the 8 stops so requires a massive crop and only works in 1080p modes. Rolling shutter has always been a problem. If it has rolling shutter like the EOS R’s 4K, then it’s essential useless (not that 8K is important for me). Internal RAW, if like the 1DX3, with it’s insanely impractical 2.5Gbps bitrate makes that practically useless for me as well. I am exciting for possible super clean 4K recording (hopefully up to 60p and without the fun house rolling shutter) that has the canon image mojo and DPAF with eye tracking.

Probably natural +2 for GH5S... Problem is it really throws off the yellows.

I am shocked it doesn’t have at least 10-bit options with its “new” processing engine and a new EVF!? There is almost nothing compelling here... I’m not sure it’s even a good upgrade for the fast majority of EM1.2 owners!