Video Hummus

I have the theory that the specs are no lie, that there won't be too many gotchas (beyond rolling shutter issues and the like that plague a lot of high mega pixel cameras with current CMOS tech). Why? I think Canon has the perfect opportunity, while the market has stagnated, to surge back and make sure the Canon brand is still what EVERYONE thinks of in the photography and video. Especially since Sony seems to have held back/stumbled with the A7S and their APS-C lineup. They went from relentless innovation and spec refreshes to mediocre name changes. In other words, they starting pulling a Canon. Case in point. My daughter has started to become interested in photos and video...what did she want not knowing anything about cameras? She wanted a Canon. Because thats what all the Pros use. You see them on the sidelines of games. You see them being used by YouTubers. You see an ancient 5D Mark III being used by the photographer that took family photos a year ago... For her photography meant buying a Canon camera. I think Canon has been forced into throwing out their best stuff to simply survive, and the timing is good now. They cashed in for years on their same old tech in new bodies and with a few tweaks. Very little development overhead probably went into the EOS R. It was basically the same old sensor, tweaked for mirrorless, with underwhelming specs but a good 8-bit no fuss image. But it had their new mount...where all the real hard work and planning went into. IF canon delivers a 4K120p camera, WITH IBIS, WITH their excellent DPAF, WITH 10-bit no fuss Canon codec and color science...you can't ignore it. You would nave to have a very specific reason not to be interested in buying an R5/R6 and investing in the Canon glass. Because so far, it's specs satisfies almost everyone's needs out there. The best AF, great no hassle colors SOC, 10-bit, 4K, 8K for the ones that care, a modern, adaptable mirrorless mount... It's a play for the FF market. It's a play to push out Panasonic and Nikon, and seize the mirrorless FF market and lock in another generation of video/photo people into RF/EF and Canon mirrorless. Panasonic's situation is looking pretty grim. They need to sort out their AF or their FF camera's won't survive, for sure. Nikon is looking pretty lame as well, but not as bad as Panasonics position. It has me, an avid MFT fan, that has invested thousands of dollars into the system, to hold my wallet to see what comes, regardless of new MFT or FF announcements from Panasonic. Because the R5 and R6 could potentially deliver everything I've have been waiting for in a mirrorless camera. IF I can basically have a camera with a LUMIX tech sheet AND unbeatable AF...sign me up.

There are business that produce content that are in the market for $13K cinema cameras with All the onset bells and whistle that make sense in that environment. Then there are a whole bunch (way more in my opinion) of aspiring photo/video content creators and small one-man-band companies doing work for smaller clients that demand a mix of deliverables. These are the people that are doing work for travel agencies and local business that prefer the form factor of a R5 over a C300 or even a C100 and don’t have the weight of “industry standards practice” of this is how it’s done. The later want the R5. The former don’t. They are separate markets for the most part. The problem lies, and I’m completely speculating here, in the separate imaging departments at the cameras companies. The cinema division was the old world and should get the better specs and image and that the consumer electronics segment should be get hand-me-downs. That the segments overlapped when they really don’t and there is just a tiny grey area. People know if they need a C300 or not. They know the difference. A C300 isn’t anything like a R5. They are separate flagship products in two different markets.

Maybe they never thought Canon would give them what they actually wanted and not what they settled for in the R? It definitely upsets the current state of the camera industry. Sony is the only real competitor as far as AF performance goes so it seems like the industry is going to converge around these two brands with Fuji filling in the rest. Not really sure what Panasonic is going to do as they no longer have the resolution and FPS advantage anymore that they’ve had with the GH5 and S1H with 4K60 in MFT and now FF. In addition, 8K is, at the moment, a hard wall. Going higher becomes exponentially more impractical. Resolutions 8K and higher become increasingly more specialized (360, volumetric imaging, sports broadcasting) and make less and less sense for consumer consumption and capture. Thats leaves Panasonic Lumix brand in a tough position. They need to deliver trustworthy AF as good as DPAF with the best Varicam color science and high dynamic range to survive in the coming market.

48Megapixels, 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic, IBIS, and tracking DPAF isn’t exciting for them? Seems to be the perfect camera for landscape photographers, wedding and event photographers, and corporate shoots. It definitely isn’t a family cam or anything.

I think most people are expecting this. Especially in 8K modes. RAW mode will naturally be limited by the insane bitrates! In practice it probably won’t affect most people. If you need longer recording times in 4K you would be better off with MFT or a cinema class camera anyway. Sub 15 minute record limit in 8K. Fine with me. Maybe not for you. 30 mins for 4K. Still fine with me. Maybe not for you. The Devil is always in the details with Canon.

These two. Sony was reaching a sort of critical mass with professionals that needed more video capability. So Canon seems to be swinging for the fences to win them back. R5 ~$4k, RF glass easily ~7.5K (holy trinity set), $1K in bits and bobs (EF-RF adapter, etc...) Thats $12.5K for a straight RF investment. Of course it is lower for people coming with EF glass, but eventually they will want some of that RF goodness. That’s $8K in lens lock-in (the ultimate form of lock-in for a brand). DPAF, 4K120p, and 10-bit clog are a tasty combo for many people, even Sony brand loyalists.

Yep 🙃

I can’t wait a few days. Spill the beans, man!

I know what a fecking tease. Pretty sure Andrew wouldn’t be excited about external RAW recording.

Since the specs are moving more into confirmed territory. I’m gonna say minimum $4,499 at launch. The 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 w/ Clog in h264 with DPAF up to 120p sold it for me and has me definitely holding on to my money even if a GH6 comes (I’m a MFT fan). I expect the RAW will have such a large bitrate it will be impractical with current CFExpress card prices and capacity. Anyway, good news from Canon stepping up their game.

Those R5 specs still sound too good to be true. If they do come true it will be enough for me to invest into R5 and RF as a whole. If the 4K capture is clean and DPAF works and I get 120p with AF...wow. Only problem is I won't need another camera for a long time....

Yes, the organizing features, keywords, show used media, favorites, rejected etc... are a sleeper features.

They need an extra 10 days tick the roman numerials from A7SIII to A7SIV.

I hope this is a sign that Apple is going to give FCPX some updates and new features. I know it’s not full featured or as good as something like DaVinci but I just can’t switch. It feels like home after so many years. It also has had solid performance and has maybe crashed on me a handful of times in the past 4 years. I bought FCPX on a student discount special. For $199 I got FCPX, Motion, Logic X, and Compressor. It was a great bargain. No stupid subscription costs. It could use some quality of life features that would improve its use: A neural engine that will speed up, and maybe even mesh with their accelerator cards, things like up-scaling, tracking, color matching etc... Built-in tracker to simplify masking in video. The tracker could be used for so many things as well (beauty mode for tracking a face, etc...) A more advanced stabilizer. More intuitive audio controls. Better integration with Apple Motion. Get rid of the cheesy effects and transitions and replace them with well-know effects and film orientated, low key ,transitions that can speed up workflows. Enhanced Performance with Mac Hardware! Go back to your roots. Give me something special. Integrated accelerating chips (a la T2) that give me edge when editing on an expensive 16” MacBook Pro or IMac Pro. If I was Apple I would definitely rip out the A13 Bionic Chip and repurpose it’s neural engine accelerator stick it in a Apple MacBook Pro. Makes so much bloody sense.

My post was tongue and cheek about not being able to see a DR difference on screens.

I would be pretty miffed if I got a defective or damage product. My trust of the brand would take a hit. There is a conspiracy in the camera world. How is it that all of them can’t seem to get it right. Panasonic can’t get their AF trustworthy. Sony Is allergic to 10-bit anything. Canon’s DR hasn’t been great and of course their schizophrenic cripple hammer and lack of 10-bit in anything sub $5K. FujiFilm, of all companies, has come around to having the best all-around camera for DSLM shooters since they released XT4 and even that has annoying niggles. My iPhone 8 Plus screen can definitely see the difference in DR mapping of those two cameras.

I would say yes, DR doesn’t matter much when you can control lighting. But go outside and see if 8 stops is the same as shooting 12 on your S1 or other high DR camera.

Lol, I think the cinema5d results are more indicative of real world performance. No way it’s 14.7 I think this is a respectable showing for the relatively compact S1H. Too bad they didn’t have a Internal ND solution for it.

All the latest CFExpress and the upcoming SD Card standard (SD Express; SDEX) are based off of PCI 3.0 protocols and even NVMe 1.3 protocols that the latest SSD use. Which, in the case of SD Express, raises transfer speeds to 900MB/s and capacities to 128TB. However, camera companies are loathed to adopt new standards. We have UHS-3 since 2017 which doubles the performance over UHS-2 transfer rates and we still don’t have one camera to support it. The move to the ubiquitous PCI Express standard is definitely better though. Cheaper hardware for all. So it will be interesting to see where they go. SD express or CFExpress. CFExpress has an advantage of being slightly bigger which opens up larger capacities.

It was on the older, larger floppys. I think I was in 4th grade or something. I remember when a member of our party died in game you could write a small message on their tombstone. You could imagine what our pre-teen brains came up with... When you came across a tombstone anywhere in the game you could read what was written on the tombstone. Good times.

We've come a long way from floppy disks. Now, one frame from a 400Mbps GH5 file at 24fps won't fit on it. I remember playing oregon trail as a kid. It was like 10 floppies or something.

I would say, based on my Dads life, he went to the cinema to watch Kubrick films. The pokey black and white tv was for reruns and the Johnny Carson show. DR is, in my opinion, the single metric that will improve the image coming out of your camera (there are exceptions of course). S1H ranges from 13.2 to 13.7. That’s a good enough increase from previous gen to make a difference.

A C100mk3 with 10-bit internal, clog, a decent screen, and 14 stops of DR and DPAF in all modes would do so well. No fuss, beautiful colors straight out of camera. I would rather have a solid 10-bit image than fuss around with 12-bit BRAW (good as it is) since most of the image content is consumed on compressed 8-bit streaming codecs over the Internet and viewer on phones, tablets, and laptop screens.

Maybe conceding sensor design and manufacture to a competitor with a competing camera line wasn’t very smart? What other companies do CMOS? Fairchild Imaging (BAE Systems) Samsung. Sharp? Maybe it’s time for them to go shopping somewhere else less they keeping sucking the toes of Sony.

I agree. The best camera for you is the one that makes you want to go out and shoot! Ive only held two Olympus cameras in my hand but they both left an impression on me. The combination of features just makes it easy and fun to shoot with. I know they get picked on for implementing Starry Sky AF and such but don’t knock it until you’ve carried it all day and realize it can bang out 50MPX landscape photos handheld, do long exposure Without filters, and end the day with some light handheld astrophotography. I just wish they would give me 10-bit 4K up 30p internal for video. But I’m still going to pick up and EM1.3 for photography. Maybe they will add 10-bit video in a firmware update. We all know it’s hardware is capable.