newfoundmass

The Panasonic G9 is a really underrated stills camera. It gets overlooked because it's M43 but it's awesome. The IBIS is a dream! Perhaps look into the a6600 as well, if you're not willing to go the M43 route? It's a little over your budget but not by much.

The GH5 with the Sigma 18-35mm/Speedboster combo or the new 10-25mm f1.7 is a killer set up even in 2020. Not to say the S1 isn't awesome. I wanted to pull the trigger myself after using one, but at the end of the day the GH5 was more than adequate. Heck the local production house my friend works at is still rocking GH4s!

I'd edit in 4K and export your finished edit in 1080p. Or just add the 4K footage to a 1080p timeline. No sense it degrading the quality by adding unnecessary transcoding the work flow.

Honestly it's worth every penny if you can get it for $400. You might be able to find it for slightly cheaper on Craigslist, but probably not much. I'd planned on getting a second one but stumbled on a GX85 for $250 and snapped it up!

I think you'd be able to get pretty close with the GH4 if you use a color checker and are willing to put in time. The GH5 or a G9 is probably your best bet though, since it'll give you better flexibility and the colors are closer. Maybe even a G85? It matches wonderfully with the GH5, so it might be able to match the S1? If you use a color checker you'll be able to get most modern cameras to match enough with a little time and effort. It's quite easy in Resolve, for instance.

My only real complaint with the G85 is the 60p in 1080p. Wish it had a higher bit rate.

I really can't think of a better value than the G85. What a gem of a camera! The only contender for better value would be the GX85 but it lacks the mic input and smaller battery. I currently shoot with the GH5 as my A-cam, the G85 as my B-cam, and the GX85 as my C-cam. Can't see much of a need for "upgrading" anytime soon!

I wouldn't count them out.

I was kinda meh at first, especially when people were doing videos without being able to actually show any footage but what I've seen so far is very interesting.

The funny thing about this to me is how little I want / need any of these specs. I have everything I need in my GH5 right now. I could do with better auto focusing, but other than that? It's pretty close to being perfect for my work.

That's a bit more than an H1... 😉 ------ I just upgraded to the Zoom H6 and I really like it. I still have two Zoom H1 recorders too and I don't think I've ever had this problem, but I'd look into the Zoom H5 or H6. They're big improvements over the H1 and H4N.

Doh, dunno how that happened lol I don't think they have released a follow up to the DVX200 yet because the market it appeals to (ENG) moves a lot slower. A lot of local network affiliates are using the same cameras they got when they changed over to HD. They ride their equipment until the wheels fall off. The DVX200 also still exceeds the needs of a lot of ENG shooters, so it's not really out of date. The local CBS affiliate bought DVX200's and my buddy Michael loves it.

I don't think they have released a follow up to the DVX200 yet because the market it appeals to (ENG) moves a lot slower. A lot of local network affiliates are using the same cameras they got when they changed over to HD. They ride their equipment until the wheels fall off. The DVX200 also still exceeds the needs of a lot of ENG shooters, so it's not really out of date. The local CBS affiliate bought DVX200's and my buddy Michael loves it.

The only real difference I see between my G85 and GX85 is the IBIS, the G85's is better I assume because of the larger body and weight. Otherwise they're virtually identical. Best $250 I've spent!

I just got a GX85 for $250! You can find deals out there! I dunno, I'd just spend the extra money it'll cost you since you'd be getting 80% or so of what you have in a GH5. G6 is good but it's just hard to justify getting it in 2020. Just looking at eBay the G6 and GX85 prices are nearly identical. $288 is not bad at all. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F402036976231

Do you need a mic input? Cause the GX85 (GX80 overseas) is a KILLER camera but it lacks a mic input. I got it as my c-cam for multicamera shoots. Combined with the 35-100mm f/2.8 it blows my mind. You could always attach a Zoom H1 or something for better audio.

Thought this was a good comparison of the camera vs S1H.

I wish I'd picked one up when they were like $250 new. I didn't know they still even sold it.

I just sold mine. It's a great lens but I think I'm done with adapting modem zooms to my M43 cameras. They're just too heavy. I wish they'd released a similar lens for the M43 system. I appreciate what Panasonic did with the 10-25mm f1.7 but that price tag is just too hefty for me. I think some of the e-mount lenses have been impressive. Maybe not exactly on the same level but very close. Tamron especially has released some excellent lenses.

? I wish @Andrew Reid had reviewed it. It didn't get nearly enough attention and still is an excellent camera. I do hope they were serious about releasing a follow up. They really thought outside the box with the LS300 and supported it with updates/features long after most companies do. Of the "big companies" only Panasonic has done that

No I know, but I recently saw a handle that has a battery built into it being used for other cameras and I really appreciate the creativity. The grip though is like $300.

Canon is king when it comes to documentary and corporate work. For those that got their start with Canon's DSLR cameras it's a natural progression. I see a lot of them for that type of work. The higher end cinema stuff though, I think they'll always be battling up hill. They don't really offer much that the other cameras listed can't do. I just don't think people at that level think of Canon when time comes to decide what to shoot on.

I really appreciate the creativity we're seeing. First the battery side handle, now this. The only thing I don't appreciate? The prices!

I don't think he meant to be condescending. Action cameras have their uses but outside of their incredible stabilization GoPro has done little to move forward. Honestly if I needed an action camera for anything I'd just get one of the cheaper knock offs before paying the GoPro premium. That's assuming I couldn't just use one of my Panasonic cameras to accomplish what I'd use an action camera for. They also lose their value faster than pretty much any other camera out there. I just can't see investing in one unless you really need it.

Sony I think is strongest with YouTubers that can't live without AF and think they need shallow depth of field while standing in front of their "sets" that all look the same. I don't think this site attracts those types. The Sony shooters here I've found to be pretty competent videographers/filmmakers. Sony's offerings provide the YouTube crowd good bang for their buck and quick results right out of the box. They're not too concerned with a lot of the things we care about. They do minimal, if any color grading, etc.