Mark Romero 2

3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

So only just saw this and, whoa, that lav in the opening scene is massive compared to the top she is wearing! The lav is almost giving her more coverage than her clothes. 

Yeah, I know, couldn't stop staring at her Lav!!!

19 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Yep there's a good chance it's for Leica. I still hold out some hope for the full frame Panasonic cameras though, I really think there's some hints it may happen.

I notice a lot of panasonic users on other forums have said things like, "If only panasonic made a full frame sensor..." so I see there is a lot of interest in it.

but on the other hand, then you have the lens issue: All the people who own the m43 system are going to have to go out and buy FF lenses for the new FF panasonic bodies (or use adapted lenses).

With full frame bodies you can stick an APS-C lens on there and at least shoot in S35. Maybe not great, but at least workable.

But if you have a full frame panasonic body and stick an m43 lens on it, what are you going to get???

I think competition is wonderful so I truly HOPE that Panasonic come out with a killer full frame camera.

But the lens situation has me wondering how feasible it is.

I am sorry for your loss.

I have a good excuse: I am lazy.

On a (somewhat) more serious note, I often watch 80's music videos to be inspired. A lot of it is low tech (compared to today's tech) and I marvel at how much time and creativity that most have gone into shooting, editing and producing them.

A lot of the techniques are hackneyed but I think for ultra low budget they can be revised again.

Going off topic a bit regarding vintage lenses...

While I am tempted to pick some up, my concern (for video) would be regarding barrel / pincushion distortion (and vignetting to an extent as well).

I understand that that cameras will automatically correct (to a certain extent) for distortion and vignetting when shooting jpgs and video.

But with vintage lenses (or lenses that don't communicate electronically), how do you correct for distortion and vignetting???

I am assuming that lenses which were designed to be shot on film cameras - and thus had no automatic corrections - were manufactured to have less distortion / vignetting (at the sake of probably sharpness or CA or flare control or something else).

There are certainly a couple of minolta lenses I would like to use on my Sony cameras.

4 hours ago, jonpais said:

No color correction in post. Shadows pulled down a bit.

Thanks for posting. Looks real good. Very detailed with out being overly sharp.

Thanks for posting. It looks good.

Were you hand holding? Or did you have some sort of rig?

And did you just dial in the focal length for IBIS?

Thanks in advance.

Looks good. Thanks for sharing.

I look forward to hearing what more you have to say about SLOG 3 and Sony cameras in general.

On 7/10/2018 at 7:14 AM, jase said:

I really really would love to use the Voigtländer Nokton 40mm f1.2 and therefore I am in the market for a Sony FF body.

 

As mentioned above, the best thing is to try an a7 II first if possible.

One thing I didn't see asked before is WHY you want to use the Nokton 40mm f/1.2 lens? what is so special about this lens?

I think if you are going to be shooting close to wide open, then you will be less bothered by the moire and aliasing than you would if you were shooting with a larger DOF (that's the way it is for me on my a6500 shooting in 1080p).

A few people have mentioned various soft filters as well for shooting on the a6500 in 1080p.

There are other "interesting" things about Sony cameras you should consider as well, like the color science, the ergonomics, the LCD screen brightness (or lack thereof), the menus, the battery life, the SD card placement...

And note that this is coming from a 100% Sony FanBoy...

I mean, I am seriously considering buying a FF a7 III and using my aps-c glass on it - and taking a hit in resolution - for the sole benefit of the better ergonomics / usability.

Granted, the ergonomics on the a7 II are probably much better than on the a6500 / other Sony aps-c cameras. Still, something to think about.

6 hours ago, ntblowz said:

or P4A like I do

Yeah, the P4A has the same camera, right? Just P4P has the side sensors to prevent crashing I think.

9 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

Well if the camera will not be at least as good as the phantom 4, ill pass. 

Agreed. I will stick with my P3A (and try and find an inexpensive P4P) until they have a one-inch variable aperture camera.

I am sorry that I don't own an a7 II and can't give you exact advice.

My a6500 has poor quality 1080p and for me it is very annoying. My understanding is that the 1080p out of the a7 II is supposed to be as bad or worse than out of my a6500.

You might search youtube for things like:

a7 II cinematic

a7 II test

a7 II 1080p

a7 II grading

a7 II voigtlander

And look at the clips that show up. That should give you a pretty good idea of what kind of quality you can expect from the a7 II.

Of course, the best solution would be to rent one from a place that has an option to buy it if you like it.

8 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

Here you are

https://mega.nz/#!9yI3WI6Q!7vsyePwLM4ZNjLAvPgE5kF0tJzllNgPxRdGPDPJ3Xmc

Thanks!

@BTM_Pix

Would you mind terribly uploading your DNG file to drop box and making it shareable? I have always wanted to try editing a DNG file in resolve.

Best to use resolve 14 or 12.5 while 15 is still in Beta.

Ahhh.... the Mavica....

It was actually great for getting a lot of (poor quality) product shots on to a website real quickly.

I remember the day I sold it and got an Olympus 3030 Zoom instead. One of the only affordable little cameras that had a hot shoe mount. I put a PC Sync shoe in the hot shoe and used that to run my Paul C. Buff White Lightning (the Original Coffee Can) strobes.

Good times.

On 6/14/2018 at 2:12 AM, BTM_Pix said:

I forgot to mention that it does scent release as well.

So, yeah, if you want fart jokes then they can do a very decent dinosaur one complete with wind, movement and smell ! 

Ahh... I remember John Waters' Polyester with Smellorama.

2 hours ago, Dustin said:

Yeah idk what I’m going to do for a “kit lens” lol. Might pick up a kit lens on the cheap for that wide 18mm.

Well... there is a cheap 19mm Sigma f/2.8 (don't know how good the AF is in video mode though), and there is a 20mm and a 16mm f/2.8 sony lenses that are inexpensive. I don't know if the Sony lenses are much better than the kit lens though.

The sigma 19mm f/2.8 should be pretty sharp if it is anything at all like the Sigma 30mm f/2.8 and the sigma 60mm f/2.8, which are some of the sharpest budget lenses around for Sony e Mount.

8 hours ago, Dustin said:

@Mark Romero 2 Thanks man! I have purchased a two pack of the wasabi batteries with the dual charger so I’ll have three including the kit. Also went ahead and jumped up to a 128gb memory card. Since the camera is at 4-6 day shipping I’m still deciding on what to get lens wise. The camera was $869 so that’s put me quite ahead on my budget. With the accessories I’m only at $968 so I’m gonna pick up a dumb $17 adapter on amazon for the Nikon primes (speedbooster later) and one lens. From here I’ll probably save and maybe get the 18-105 f4 but we’ll see how well I like manual land now that I have some ibis!

Which Nikon prime lenses do you own???

Have fun and enjoy.

Gary Friedman might have some free videos up on youtube about the a6300 / a6500. He often explains the "hidden" features of cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gary+friedman+a6300

Maartech has good videos on "video settings" so you might want to check those out as well.

Learn how to set up the Fn menu and the M1 and M2 settings. Without those, you will go crazy.

For 4K video, you need a 64GB card.Don't get a 32GB card (or smaller). It won't work. Forgot to mention that. One of the quirks. Welcome to Sony land...

I use a Sony SDXC U3 10 95MB/s card (that's what it says on it... heck if I know what it means).

If you are ok with manual focus and want to pick up a cheapo minolta lens, look for an LA-EA1 (about $50 used), and then you could put a Minolta AF lens on it and it will read the EXIF data for IBIS on it. Don't confuse Minolta AF lenses with minolta MC or MD lenses, which are older manual focus lenses (nice, but they required different adapters).

The placement of the video record button will drive you crazy. There are little clear rubber buttons that you can buy that will stick on to any of your camera buttons. I don't have a link to them. I keep meaning to buy them and put them on the Fn button and the record button.

If you are going to be using your Nikon manual lenses, then you want to set 1 of your custom buttons to punching it to confirm focus.

As good as the focus peaking is on the a6300 / a6500, I find that punching in is still more accurate for critical focus.

The 35mm f/1.8 OSS is supposed to be a good lens. You will probably get a lot of mileage out of it.

You might be able to rig up a very lightweight dummy battery to use handheld / on a monopod. It should allow you to shoot longer and (theoretically) help reduce the likelihood of overheating since many people claim that the heat from the internal battery accelerates overheating. Pulling the LCD screen away from the body reportedly helps with overheating. I saw one person who had a rig with a small fan on it. He says it works well.

a6500 doesn't have a headphone jack...

Here is something to just tease you a bit:

A lot of people like the AndyCine monitors. I would avoid the IKAN monitor. It is supposed to be nice but it isn't all that much bigger than the LCD on the a6500.

Hope this helps. Despite the quirks, and the naysayers, lots of people use the a6300 / a6500 for videos and they create some really nice stuff.  Check out Brandon Li's stuff. Or just search youtube for "a6500 cinematic" and you will come up with lots of nice stuff.

1 minute ago, Dustin said:

Man have you guys given me stuff to think about. The a6500 / G85 have my attention. I will need to make a chart and figure out which one makes more sense. 

a6500 pros:

More detailed 4K
Better AF
120fps with AF
Better low light performance
Better dynamic range
Allows you an "upgrade" path to full frame (or maybe you can say that allows you to have a "system" that incorporates a full frame camera)
Great stills camera
Access to inexpensive Minolta glass with the right adapters that will have some limited AF funtionality

a6500 Cons:

Horrible LCD screen
Limited touch screen functionality
More likely to overheat
1080p is chock full of aliasing / moire (mostly a nuisance in static shots with large DOF and architecture, but depends on your level of tolerance)
Colors are wonky (but the EOSHD pro color packages do seem to help this out a bit)
Battery life is short
Poor ergonomics???

You can buy a cage and add a monitor and external battery and grips, or you can mount a monitor on to a gimbal and use an ultra-thin hdmi cable, and can mitigate some of the disadvantages to a certain extent. But do you want to do that?

2 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Not suggesting @Dustin get a Panny, but when mounting a lens with electronic communication, like the Sigma 16mm or 30mm DC DN or any of the Oly m43 lenses, IBIS adjusts automatically. When mounting a mechanical lens, a screen will pop up asking you to enter the focal length. It is super sinple. 

Yeah... well, when you register your Sony camera online, there is some small text in the End User Agreement that says:

"Camera user accepts that the word 'simple' is no longer in their vocabulary."

You will never see the word "Sony" and the word "Simple" in the same sentence unless it includes the phrase "Why isn't... ?" in it as well.

2 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Yeah there is plus and minus to doing Anything above normal for sure. But yeah there is some real bargains even in A Mount lenses, and they just about give away excellent Minolta glass. The Beer Can is a good example.

Yeah, I will probably pick up an LA-EA4 (to go along with an LA-EA3) if I move up from the a6500 to the a7 III.

I can certainly AFFORD to buy two a7 III (got to have a backup camera) and the Sony lenses for them, but I can't really JUSTIFY it. I am too much like my father was... and I guess I am ok with that.

How about this:

Maybe a synth with twice the number of oscillators but only a limited two-octave range???

(Sorry if I am not using the correct terminology).

1 minute ago, webrunner5 said:

You really need to use the   Sony LA-EA4 as it has PDAF AF in it. A lot faster and more accurate focusing. But it is expensive, and cleaning the thing is risky as it is fragile.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FSB7432/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp&camp=1789&amp&creative=9325&amp&creativeASIN=B00FSB7432&amp&linkCode=as2&amp&tag=phillipreeven-20

Well, there are advantages and disadvantages to the LA-EA4 (just as there are to ALL adapters).

Mostly, for me, the LA-EA4 has only a limited number of AF points, while the LA-EA1 / LA-EA3 allows one to use ALL the AF points.

Also, the LA-EA4 MIGHT require one to compensate (micro adjust) AF since the AF module in the Adapter might be at a distance different to that of the Sensor. I got sick and tired of doing that with my Nikon lenses (I had some Nikon zooms that needed -10 micro AF adjustment at the wide end, and +8 micro AF adjustments at the tele end - I have heard rumors that canon allows for micro af adjustments at two different focal lengths per lens). That is one of the reasons I went mirrorless in the first place; to avoid micro AF adjustments.

But the LA-EA2 / LA-EA 4 sure do open up a whole new world of lens options for sony users. Some nice minolta glass out there that is cheap as chips. Just need to watch out for ghosting / CA.

How about, "More Cowbell!!!"

In all seriousness, I find 4K helpful and to be honest, I think most of the really good 1080p cameras now have 4K.

My D750 has 1080p only, and it is a fairly good 1080p image with very good dynamic range and nice colors, but it is soft, no focus peaking, horrible AF, limited zebras, and is already pretty big so rigging it out makes it quite a lot bigger than most (mirrorless) cameras that have better video features... and have 4K to boot. I also did a low light test / high ISO test, and I thought the 1080p of my a6000 was better (and certainly the 1080p of my 4K-capable a6300 was less noisy).

So most really good VIDEO camera already seem to have 4K in them.

Of course, there are a LOT of people using Canon cameras for 1080p video and they seem to be doing well.

The other thing about 4K is that it does save me time on site, because I know that I can punch in during post for a different framing (I export at 1080p), so I don't have to stop, move in a little bit, and restart.

9 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Can't you by hand enter in the focal length into the Sony camera? Like you can with Panasonics

Yes, you can enter focal length by hand in the menus of the a6500, but like most things, it's a pain to so so, even more if you are on a gimbal.

Haven't tried doing it on a panasonic, but I would ASSUME that it is easier, just because it seems easier to do everything on a panasonic.

44 minutes ago, jonpais said:

First, let me say, I've got zero experience with either the a6300 or a6500, but my guess is if you're going to be using adapted lenses or shooting with the Sigma, you're going to lose much of the af-c advantage, particularly in video mode. 

I only have ONE adapted AF lens (a Sony A Mount 85mm f/2.8 SAM on an LA-EA1) and I can confirm your suggestion. And this IS a Sony lens on a sony made adapter mounted on to an a6500.

16 minutes ago, mercer said:

Look up Christian Mate Grabe on YT... he used the a6500 with the Sigma 30mm 1.4 for a while... I think he shot mostly 1080p with it as well. His stuff is gorgeous. 

Agreed, his stuff is nice.

Isn't he using a canon now??? Like a 6D II (aka, The Camera Canon Released So That Everyone Would Buy Sony Cameras)

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FWIW: I asked Brandon Li about using the 1080p on the a6500 and he said as long as you are using a fast lens and a shallow DOF the IQ of the 1080p out of the a6500 is fine. I think the fact that he is on a gimbal 99% of the time and using a lot of movement helps (as long as you don't buy a one-way ticket to Rolling Shutter Town).