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That's true, but since its their own codec, it doesn't make sense to hold it back from their own customers. Especially since it's open for other manufacturers to use. I'd say its 100% going to be implemented, and 99.9% it'll be free. Nice. I mean, we could all sell stuff to offset the cost of any camera. Just like we all have our own lenses and accessories that only work with one system so it makes sense to stick to that system. I was just thinking about it myself and the only this the Fuji really has for me that the BM doesn't is the photo mode, which to me doesn't warrant the extra price, especially considering lenses etc. even if I did sell off all my current gear. It's much more stress too, I hate selling on the 2nd hand market, people here are cheapos.

I've also suddenly jumped back on the fence. I've come to the conclusion though, that the only thing the XT3 offers me over the P4K (in my usage, yours may differ) is an infinitely better stills mode. The XT3 is also more expensive and I'd have to replace my lenses, so it doesn't make sense for me to change my mind. Add on the new RAW codec in a few months and I'm more than happy. It makes it a 'better' camera than the one I pre-ordered 6 months ago, at no extra cost. (It's incredible that they're adding that, when other companies charge extra for log mode) For holiday snaps that will never be printed, I think the stills from BMD will be adequate. Certainly better than my phone. if not, I'll still have my trusty gx80 for stills and I can use all my lenses. Not sure what this adds to the thread.

Have you guys seen this? Seems to be a new way to use a gimbal. Low mode HDMI sender for live playback on your phone/tablet Extra zoom and focus controls. Shame the rep doesn't know about the price or release date though haha! Sorry about the Cinema5d link, it's all I could find ?

@CaptainHook In the raw player, is there an option to toggle the sidecar file, instead of having to quit, move it and reopen the app? That would be a great feature.

This is the best one yet.

@Alt Shoo The gyls300 has been out for 3 or 4 years.

I might be misunderstanding something. But with Braw, could you bake in a lut for fat turn around, and then if need be, take the lut off in resolve for better archiving?

That chart only shows max frame rates, and we already know 120 is windowed. I think even at 24/25/30/50/60 it's still going to stay 'windowed' though, because even Ultra HD is. Essentially it's just pillar boxing, but the camera crops the black bars for you, instead of you cropping a DCI image to 16:9 later.

Yes, Grant Petty says it will come in that long video about it. But also on B&H, where they normally just say 'We'll pass this on as a feature request', they say this: Also, you can download the Braw player here (Mac only for now) https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/nl/support/download/9cadff466707404487123c114efce572/Mac OS X Edit OSX 10.12 and up only - Hopefully someone else (VLC) will build it into their software soon enough, I won't be updating my OS just for this.

And Nessie is a wrongly convicted murderer.

Don't forget emailing hundreds of sidecar files to and from a colorist, like it's nothing.

I told y'all they'd come the week after ibc. Hope these aren't jokesters

Grant said they have patents on it. But that doesn't mean others can't use it. Also, I don't think it's a middle finger to Apple. They work closely as proven by the now obsolete BMD e CPU

Isn't this some Pied Piper, middle out kind of ish?

@MattH I suppose it'll sit somewhere between ProRes and cDNG in terms of power consumption then? With ProRes using the most processing power and cDNG using the least.

As it's more processing, moving the de-bayer onto the camera hardware, I wonder how that will effect battery life. Will it take more resources than using ProRes? Certainly more than cDNG.

Haha, so BM made the C.Fast and USB-c recording feature obsolete before their camera even made it to market. Also their eGPU isn't needed to use the footage at all.

It will come to the Pocket 4K in a few months. They've already released the sDK, it's now up to Adobe and others to build it into their software. I doubt it'll take very long for them to pick it up.

At around 22 minutes, Grant talks about shooting in Video Gamma, but the background 'sidecar' files have the metadata of Film Gamma. Does that basically mean with this new format you can shoot for a straight out of camera file, that has the flexibility of RAW should you need it later on? That's absolutely amazing for TV and news work. Broadcast ready files that can go out straight off the cards, but can be archived and graded later. It's pretty much game changing in my field. That alone is a reason to go Blackmagic.

Done - nice idea.

Today at IBC, BMD announce a new Blackmagic RAW codec. Available in a number of variations, depending on your needs for image quality over file size, it appears to overtake ProRes RAW, and will be usable in a number of NLEs thanks to their free SDK for developers. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/nl/media/release/20180914-01 From @sanveer It seems to address 2 Huge things: 1. The ProRes RAW that Apple was attempting to push across all RAW shooting cameras (which has issues, since it doesn't have any specific flavours and only has a Wrapper for the Proprietory RAW from different camera manufacturers). Blackmagic seems to even show the fundamental flaws with that approach ("Blackmagic RAW is much more than a simple RAW container format. Its intelligent design actually understands the camera and the sensor."). 2. Not enough Compression Options in RAW. Most RAW compressions weren't actually pushing RAW closer to manageable territory (ProRes and H.264 size). This new RAW codec seems to address that (Blackmagic RAW 3:1, 5:1, 8:1 and 12:1). The only question is would it succeed without being open source for other camera manufacturers or only NLE support is good enough.

BMD announce new Blackmagic RAW codec, are they taking on ProRes RAW? https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/nl/media/release/20180914-01 EDIT: This is the menu from the 4.6k camera, so some of the resolution options won't apply to the P4K.

Mistaken post, my bad, please delete this one.

Does that make it a 2.7x crop in 4k60p? That's quite a jump. So the advantage of h265 here is filesizes then?

I've tried looking but am I right in thinking the 4k60p is 400mbps in h265? If so, isn't that equivalent to 800mbps h264? That's quite astonishing. The only downside really is the 4:2:0 in camera. It's already 1.5x crop, is there extra crop for video? I also see that it's rated at 30 minute record times. is that based on 30fps recording? If so, does that mean 60fps is limited to 15 minutes?