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After taking over Minolta, Sony took over the AF, mount and IBIS technology but did kind of almost nearly make a spiritual successor to the TC-1 with the Full Frame RX1 series with its Zeiss 35mm F2 lens that is very comparable to a GX80/85 form factor.

Ignore the 64% thicker figure because they obviously measure the RX1R with the fixed lens and the GX80/85 as body only.
It doesn't quite get the target weight of 200g but its still not a heavyweight (again weight is measured without lens on the GX80/85).
Video is only 1080p and Sony don't appear to be interested in following it up with a new model despite the fact that the camera they were going after (the Leica Q) has had two more additional iterations in the meantime.
So I doubt we'll see a new one with uprated video specs, which is a pity as despite its price it was a very nice camera but I'm guessing they can get more mileage out of people buying the A7CR and developing a lens addiction.
 

It was until they got into serial numbers, date of production and defining what the "early 70s" actually meant as in a show that came out in September 74 had already had 37% of the 70s behind it so couldn't count.
No, really.
I am printing this out for the next time my wife says I waste too much time on the internet.
Wait until a Welsh speaker goes on there and tells him the translation they use for cappuccino .
It will blow his mind.

The big issue a while back was people making their first post to ask a benign question so it got through the initial moderation and then editing their post a couple of days later to insert a link to some spam nonsense.
They then invariably replied to their own post with "Thanks everyone, I've found the solution" whilst inserting more spam links into that.
When the edit was removed we then had a series of "Please advise me which camera to get" posts from first time posters who then disappeared never to return. The reason they never returned is they couldn't edit their posts to put the spam link in. These threads wasted a lot of good intentioned advice from regular posters.
On balance, I think preventing that kind of stuff (which was rife at one point) is worth not having an edit function for, particularly as we have had some absolutely mind numbing pedantry on here of late which would be made worse if people who want to argue a point into the ground could go back and edit their bullshit in order to remove an assertion that was proved wrong.
Incidentally, I saw a thread on Gearspace recently about the use of the MiniMoog in TV scoring in the early 70s and I would swear that at least one poster involved in it must be on here under different names.

I had the chance to get one about four or five years ago for a reasonable price but went the poor man's route with a 2nd hand A7Rii and Samyang 35mm f2.8 thinking I was being smart because, hey, video and interchangeable lenses and its cheaper.
Yeah, that was a bad call really as particularly now I'd have welcomed the simplicity of the RX1rII for everyday use.
And as you say its held its value !
 

Yes that would be a good niche for them.
I had high hopes for them to be coming up with innovative stuff but from what they've offered so far it feels more like a management buyout/sweat the brand name affair.
I think the latter was kind of expected so its a great pity really that it currently looks like that is the reality.
Sigma have the background in making fixed lens APS-C compacts with f2.8 lenses in the original DP series (before they went weird with the design of the latter ones!) so even not withstanding them using Merrill they could make a very nice CMOS based fixed lens APS-C camera with good video facilities in it and an even faster lens now.
They've been very quiet for a while so you never know.

Yes, I use an AFX focusing system* on mine for AF-C of native and adapted electronic lenses and motor control of manual focus ones (both on BM or other cameras).

The removal/inactivation of BLE in this new camera means that such control will not be possible for native and adapted lenses and will be motor only.
Which is a bit silly really as if I can control a Sigma 18-35mm electronically, why would I want to have to then strap a follow focus ring on to it and bulk up the rig with a motor.
 
* Well, technically speaking I suppose you could say its a 3rd party device for other people who use them but its a 1st party device when I'm using one as I created it.
 

After taking over Minolta, Sony took over the AF, mount and IBIS technology but did kind of almost nearly make a spiritual successor to the TC-1 with the Full Frame RX1 series with its Zeiss 35mm F2 lens that is very comparable to a GX80/85 form factor.

Ignore the 64% thicker figure because they obviously measure the RX1R with the fixed lens and the GX80/85 as body only.
It doesn't quite get the target weight of 200g but its still not a heavyweight (again weight is measured without lens on the GX80/85).
Video is only 1080p and Sony don't appear to be interested in following it up with a new model despite the fact that the camera they were going after (the Leica Q) has had two more additional iterations in the meantime.
So I doubt we'll see a new one with uprated video specs, which is a pity as despite its price it was a very nice camera but I'm guessing they can get more mileage out of people buying the A7CR and developing a lens addiction.
 

Remote focus control doesn’t mean it needs to be auto focus.
They are not the same thing.
It is precisely because BM cameras don’t have continuous autofocus (well mine do actually) that a remote follow focus is required.
Claiming that people don’t use current BM cameras on gimbals because they don’t have continuous autofocus is a complete nonsense.
The box nature of this new one makes it even more applicable as it is easier to balance.

Leaving Bluetooth control out of it is a ridiculous decision.
There are of course different ways to control it and yes it is primarily for broadcast but they must know full well that this camera is going to find its way into a lot of filmmaker's hands (hence why they've included the recording features) and in particular onto a lot of gimbals.
Leaving out the option to control it without those other pieces of interfacing gear is real cripple hammer territory.
If its in there but just disabled then they really should enable it toot suite.
At least the original micro had the expansion port connector to enable controllers to be made for it.

I've been saying that for the past 40 years and I almost mean it now.

I've been doing a fair amount of editing on LumaFusion again recently since I got a new(er) iPad Pro.
I've been using it with the interface that I created (but never released) to enable it to be controlled wirelessly by a Contour Jog/Shuttle controller.
It turns the whole thing into more of a dedicated device and is far, far quicker to knock something together with, particularly as the new iPad blasts through content.
LumaFusion does have the depth to it now it do everything including correction, multi cam etc etc but its not sat there in your face going "tweak me, tweak me!".
It has the FCPX exporter plugin now if you want to send the whole thing to a FCPX for navel gazing/finishing but I haven't bought it as I haven't felt the need.
The issue I have with the MacBook for editing is the same one that I have with it for doing music.
It can do anything but I prefer the tactile immediacy of dedicated devices.
 

Subscription based versus €30 one off for LumaFusion seals it for me !
The mobile version of Resolve is worth a look and can also work with their SpeedEditor unit to get the same deal going that I've got with LumaFusion.
To be fair, I had to invent that one myself !
No, its lag free.
I've got Logic but being a gentleman of a certain age I prefer Cubase so I don't really use it.
However, being a gentleman of a very certain age, I've recently re-bought a totally hardware solution in the form of the Roland VS-1880.
I just much prefer the tactile hands on approach and for £100 its a lot cheaper than when I originally owned one 20 odd years ago !

I think its eminently feasible now.
The new iPhone seems capable enough, LumaFusion runs on the iPhone too (and you can cheat with an HDMI out for a big monitor) and all the audio and music apps are up to it.
Be a fitting tribute if you could find a way to do it on his behalf.

FYI for anyone who is looking to go Z mount and has manual MFT lenses then there are a bunch of different dumb MFT>Z adapters for around £30-50 such as this one.

I don't think you're following what he is saying. Go back and reread. 

Subscription based versus €30 one off for LumaFusion seals it for me !
The mobile version of Resolve is worth a look and can also work with their SpeedEditor unit to get the same deal going that I've got with LumaFusion.
To be fair, I had to invent that one myself !
No, its lag free.
I've got Logic but being a gentleman of a certain age I prefer Cubase so I don't really use it.
However, being a gentleman of a very certain age, I've recently re-bought a totally hardware solution in the form of the Roland VS-1880.
I just much prefer the tactile hands on approach and for £100 its a lot cheaper than when I originally owned one 20 odd years ago !

I think its eminently feasible now.
The new iPhone seems capable enough, LumaFusion runs on the iPhone too (and you can cheat with an HDMI out for a big monitor) and all the audio and music apps are up to it.
Be a fitting tribute if you could find a way to do it on his behalf.

FYI for anyone who is looking to go Z mount and has manual MFT lenses then there are a bunch of different dumb MFT>Z adapters for around £30-50 such as this one.

Leaving Bluetooth control out of it is a ridiculous decision.
There are of course different ways to control it and yes it is primarily for broadcast but they must know full well that this camera is going to find its way into a lot of filmmaker's hands (hence why they've included the recording features) and in particular onto a lot of gimbals.
Leaving out the option to control it without those other pieces of interfacing gear is real cripple hammer territory.
If its in there but just disabled then they really should enable it toot suite.
At least the original micro had the expansion port connector to enable controllers to be made for it.

What intrigues me is that the Z mount does offer the possibility to hoover up all of the customers who are disenfranchised with MFT but have a large lens collection that they want to keep using. Which I suspect even from gauging comments on here is a fair number of people.
JVC with the LS300 showed that you can have an APS-C sensor sat behind a fully electronic MFT mount and the flange distance difference is there to enable an adapter to Z mount.
The Z30 is not too far out of GX80 territory size wise and is actually smaller than something like a G7 so it would be nice little platform as a transitionary camera from MFT should such an adapter appear as people would have the option of dipping their toe in the Z lenses if they felt like it or just keeping going with their MFT ones.
Well, maybe not this version of the Z30 as it is only 8 bit internal.
 

I've been doing a fair amount of editing on LumaFusion again recently since I got a new(er) iPad Pro.
I've been using it with the interface that I created (but never released) to enable it to be controlled wirelessly by a Contour Jog/Shuttle controller.
It turns the whole thing into more of a dedicated device and is far, far quicker to knock something together with, particularly as the new iPad blasts through content.
LumaFusion does have the depth to it now it do everything including correction, multi cam etc etc but its not sat there in your face going "tweak me, tweak me!".
It has the FCPX exporter plugin now if you want to send the whole thing to a FCPX for navel gazing/finishing but I haven't bought it as I haven't felt the need.
The issue I have with the MacBook for editing is the same one that I have with it for doing music.
It can do anything but I prefer the tactile immediacy of dedicated devices.
 

This is the sort of thinking that logically should end up in the "fuck it I'll get a Z8" category.
I'm with you on transcoding but indeed increasingly the faff of any kind of NLE.
I'm quite interested in whether people felt they were more productive when they had hardware devices, as in camcorders and tape decks.
The immediacy of coming home, getting the tape out of the camera and then putting it in your playback deck and assembling it onto the recording deck had a lot going for it in terms of productivity.
Maybe if we had equivalent hardware devices now instead of everything going into the multi purpose computer it might be more enjoyable to actually edit things.
And would stop the fall down the rabbit hole of tweaking the bollocks off every single shot. 

I've been saying that for the past 40 years and I almost mean it now.

I've been saying that for the past 40 years and I almost mean it now.

I've quoted this before during the G9ii saga but, yes, its right there on the front page of the Micro Four Thirds association official website.

That was the point at which they changed from being "Alternative Music" to "An Alternative To Similar Types Of Music".
They went from being The Smiths to being Coldplay basically.
He is absolutely churning the content out at the moment for some reason.
If you went for this version of the Zfc you could live in both an under $1500 world and a Barbie world simultaneously.

I've been saying that for the past 40 years and I almost mean it now.

Leaving Bluetooth control out of it is a ridiculous decision.
There are of course different ways to control it and yes it is primarily for broadcast but they must know full well that this camera is going to find its way into a lot of filmmaker's hands (hence why they've included the recording features) and in particular onto a lot of gimbals.
Leaving out the option to control it without those other pieces of interfacing gear is real cripple hammer territory.
If its in there but just disabled then they really should enable it toot suite.
At least the original micro had the expansion port connector to enable controllers to be made for it.