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If this camera had come with internal electronic ND and global shutter then this entire forum would be up and on their way to the underwear drawer walking like that Honda robot.

 

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Tony and Chelsea Northrup -

He doesn't want to ruin his relationship with the brands to the point they don't send him the new cameras twice as good as previous gen. 

To virtue signal that he isn’t a gear pimping shill, he’s declining to review a camera that he doesn’t rate ?
Surely the best way of doing that would be to do a review and actually state that he doesn’t rate it IN THE FUCKING REVIEW.
You know, like someone who actually reviews gear rather than just blindly promotes it would do.
Another twat in a hat.

To virtue signal that he isn’t a gear pimping shill, he’s declining to review a camera that he doesn’t rate ?
Surely the best way of doing that would be to do a review and actually state that he doesn’t rate it IN THE FUCKING REVIEW.
You know, like someone who actually reviews gear rather than just blindly promotes it would do.
Another twat in a hat.

The line was absolutely leapt over for me when we started to see £1500+ MFT bodies.
I haven’t bought anything new since 2019 and even then it was because I was developing products that necessitated it.
Obviously, I’m an addict, so I’ve bought other cameras since but they’ve all been used ones and if I was to buy a new one again then I would be fishing in shallower waters where there is some great value like the X-M5 and Z50ii.
I am definitely getting a used Z8 in the winter as it’s as peak camera as I would need and is also peak price as I’d be prepared to pay these days.
And at the point at which I buy it, then it will only have taken me two years and a half years to finally pull the trigger.
For someone with the impulse control of Jim from American Pie, I’m counting that as progress.

I still have my G7 -- I got rid of my GH1, nice though it was back in the day, but kept this little camera; the simplicity of using it remains an attraction. This was my first camera test with it:
 

Here's the original video. Of course, this is for testing purposes only as I don't usually shoot like this. I just wanted to see how stable I could make the G7 and see how fast it could reacquire focus once in a settled position. What I learned is the smaller you make the AF box, the faster continuous will reacquire focus. I just went from subject to subject, placing the framing where the focus point was. I doubt the footage of my Panasonic VX980 would have been better, just WAY noisier.
 

My favourite AI outcome would be for it to fuck right off.

The line was absolutely leapt over for me when we started to see £1500+ MFT bodies.
I haven’t bought anything new since 2019 and even then it was because I was developing products that necessitated it.
Obviously, I’m an addict, so I’ve bought other cameras since but they’ve all been used ones and if I was to buy a new one again then I would be fishing in shallower waters where there is some great value like the X-M5 and Z50ii.
I am definitely getting a used Z8 in the winter as it’s as peak camera as I would need and is also peak price as I’d be prepared to pay these days.
And at the point at which I buy it, then it will only have taken me two years and a half years to finally pull the trigger.
For someone with the impulse control of Jim from American Pie, I’m counting that as progress.

The line was absolutely leapt over for me when we started to see £1500+ MFT bodies.
I haven’t bought anything new since 2019 and even then it was because I was developing products that necessitated it.
Obviously, I’m an addict, so I’ve bought other cameras since but they’ve all been used ones and if I was to buy a new one again then I would be fishing in shallower waters where there is some great value like the X-M5 and Z50ii.
I am definitely getting a used Z8 in the winter as it’s as peak camera as I would need and is also peak price as I’d be prepared to pay these days.
And at the point at which I buy it, then it will only have taken me two years and a half years to finally pull the trigger.
For someone with the impulse control of Jim from American Pie, I’m counting that as progress.

That’s honestly my favourite bit!
They need to have a proper hardcore mode where you can only “carry” four rolls of “film” with you and use the app like Pokémon Go where have to go and find a virtual chemist or photo store nearby to get another roll when you run out.
I’d make these virtual shops have opening hours as well !
Would be a big fan of the app making you have to load the “film” into the app in the dark and you then having to do all your “developing” in the app with the screen having a faint red glow across it.
You could even use the gyro sensors in the device to make you have to agitate the “film” to develop it.
I wouldn’t even be averse to you having to post off for a code when you’ve shot a roll of  “film” using a reversal simulation and then having to wait a week to get a code back that will unlock the roll and develop it with a non changeable preset process.
 

My wife and I just got back from a trip to Indonesia...

Jakarta?
No, she came willingly.

Immediately put me in mind of this.
”No, she went of her own accord “

No, I was there the whole time!

That’s honestly my favourite bit!
They need to have a proper hardcore mode where you can only “carry” four rolls of “film” with you and use the app like Pokémon Go where have to go and find a virtual chemist or photo store nearby to get another roll when you run out.
I’d make these virtual shops have opening hours as well !
Would be a big fan of the app making you have to load the “film” into the app in the dark and you then having to do all your “developing” in the app with the screen having a faint red glow across it.
You could even use the gyro sensors in the device to make you have to agitate the “film” to develop it.
I wouldn’t even be averse to you having to post off for a code when you’ve shot a roll of  “film” using a reversal simulation and then having to wait a week to get a code back that will unlock the roll and develop it with a non changeable preset process.
 

And underlensed.
And overbrod with the wrong type of shills.
Marketing/timing’s loss is our gain now at those prices, particularly with the 18-40mm lens.
The Hybrid Zoom function they introduced with the S9 and now have on the S5ii etc makes it an 18-62mm in 4K and 18-125mm in HD.
This cheap HDMI powered EVF that popped up on here recently might also be a good “in the pocket in case” pairing.
 

That’s honestly my favourite bit!
They need to have a proper hardcore mode where you can only “carry” four rolls of “film” with you and use the app like Pokémon Go where have to go and find a virtual chemist or photo store nearby to get another roll when you run out.
I’d make these virtual shops have opening hours as well !
Would be a big fan of the app making you have to load the “film” into the app in the dark and you then having to do all your “developing” in the app with the screen having a faint red glow across it.
You could even use the gyro sensors in the device to make you have to agitate the “film” to develop it.
I wouldn’t even be averse to you having to post off for a code when you’ve shot a roll of  “film” using a reversal simulation and then having to wait a week to get a code back that will unlock the roll and develop it with a non changeable preset process.
 

In 1988 I wasn't too displeased with the result, though...

How about a mode to simulate when you get the bleach and the fix steps back to front because you're a bit drunk?

That’s honestly my favourite bit!
They need to have a proper hardcore mode where you can only “carry” four rolls of “film” with you and use the app like Pokémon Go where have to go and find a virtual chemist or photo store nearby to get another roll when you run out.
I’d make these virtual shops have opening hours as well !
Would be a big fan of the app making you have to load the “film” into the app in the dark and you then having to do all your “developing” in the app with the screen having a faint red glow across it.
You could even use the gyro sensors in the device to make you have to agitate the “film” to develop it.
I wouldn’t even be averse to you having to post off for a code when you’ve shot a roll of  “film” using a reversal simulation and then having to wait a week to get a code back that will unlock the roll and develop it with a non changeable preset process.
 

I did a post about it a while back on the OG Pocket where it’s kind of accidentally par focal at f5.6 but maybe on a native Panasonic body it might be properly corrected ?
I did a video of it on the P4K to illustrate the functionality of the BM controller app that I wrote and it was so so with that as you can see when it shows the servo zoom function .
If you’re looking for a cheap 12-32 then the Panasonic f3.5-5.6 kit lens one is limited functionality wise (no manual focus or aperture) but has OS and is absolutely tiny.
I did some stuff (again with the OG Pocket) here. And it also has a companion lens in the same vein in the 35-100mm f4-5.6 to make a tiny two lens kit with a great range.
 

I feel for them a little bit.
Full-frame mirrorless camera with a 24.1MP partially stacked CMOS sensor Powered by a Venus Engine for fast processing, refined colour and low noise Over 15 stops of dynamic range with Dual Native ISO support 1.6x faster Phase Hybrid AF system with 779 focus points and AI tracking Records uncropped 5.1K open gate video at up to 60p and 6K at 30p Supports 5.9K 60p and 5.8K Apple ProRes internal recording via CFexpress C4K and 4K video recording up to 120p in 10-bit for high frame rate capture 10-bit HEIF captures rich tonal detail, smaller file sizes and HDR-ready stills Real-time LUT preview and false colour for on-set monitoring Features 8-stop in-body image stabilisation without crop 32-bit float audio recording achieved via optional XLR adapter Dual card slots with CFexpress Type B and SD UHS-II support Supports direct USB-SSD recording for high bitrate capture and fast offloading Compatible with UltraSync BLUE for wireless Bluetooth timecode sync Blackout-free electronic burst shooting up to 70fps for fast action capture Tilt and vari-angle 3.0-inch LCD with 1.84M-dot resolution 5.76M-dot OLED EVF with 100% frame coverage and high refresh rate Dust and splash-resistant body, weighing only 800g Includes a 3-month Capture One licence in the box After producing something with that spec, they're entitled to be a bit like..

By the same token, we are probably entitled to say "we might have been a couple of years ago and if it was cheaper".
I've said it before but the S5ii continues to be Panasonic's problem child in that it raised expectation for the 2nd generation of cameras and at a price that was pretty surprising.
That camera got the upgraders from Panasonic's MFT cameras (myself included) and this new one is asking the question "2x the price, 2x the camera?" for both the holdouts of to the MFT system and those who already moved up to the S5ii and are looking to go up again.
I think it probably is 2x the camera for some people but I can't see anyone who isn't in the L mount prison (and that is what L mount is) walking into a shop and paying 50% more for it over the Z6iii let alone paying the 10% more than a lightly used Z8.
Hard reality is that they are not Nikon, Canon or even Sony and they're going to struggle with flagship cameras.
Annoyingly for them, they can create the cameras that will attract a premium price technology wise and produce a fine image as they've been doing it for years with Leica branded versions but, again, when it comes to the other type of image they aren't Leica.
They have the opportunity to do a FujiFilm and offer an alternative but they've left them to it to pursue two companies that absolutely out heritage them and another company that  they are at the mercy of when it comes to sensors.
This will all end with someone at corporate HQ dispassionately looking at the Lumix division and striking a red pen through it.
Exactly like what happened to Samsung.
Cameras that I think they could look at doing to offer some difference would be :
New GX80 with the bulk of the GH7 inside or at the very least the GH5 and then not charge a stupid amount of money for it  as it should be possible for sub £1000.
A Super35 bridge camera with a 7x or even 5x zoom, no compromise video internals, ND and then not charge a stupid amount of money for it  as it should be possible for sub £2000.  Essentially a grown up version of the FZ2000.
I'd buy either of those and I don't think I'd be alone.
Currently, Lumix are like the smart, quirky indie girl that you fell in love with and now ten years later she's got hair extensions, fake tits, a trout pout and two ton of fillers because she wants to be a Kardashian.
 
 
 
 

You might want to have a look at the Xreal range 
https://www.xreal.com

I've now got a vision of the prostitute reaching for the marketing team's trousers and whispering "Lets Get Undone".
Thanks for that.