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Well, I made a total liar out of myself and went and bought another Panasonic GH5 with V Log in it. And to make it even more crazy I bought a Canon FD 300mm f2.8 lens, the big white one, with it, and the older 14-140mm Panny lens, the black and gray one.
With the newer firmware updates the GH5 has gotten a lot better than when I had mine before.  Pretty hard camera to beat used even today.  The 300mm ought to be good for birding and well why not. I am going to use it with my EF to M4/3 Speedbooster so will be interesting. So now I will have even more stuff.

Most of those people are probably dead by now.

Exactly. Looks to me that the tech is there. 

Most of those people are probably dead by now.

Well, The Sony Xperia Pro 5G has a HDMI port in it, and an Apple 13 Pro has ProRes in it. So, it is not like they can't or won't be able do it.

Also way to revive an ancient thread 😁

Good for you. 

There is a lot more going on with the Atomos with regard to the custom FPGA that does the processing, HDMI input/Output interface, audio interface, SSD interface, expansion interface etc that requires not only additional space but additional power and heatsink/cooling solution that wouldn't make it practical to use the same form factor as your iPhone.
The reality is that it would be far easier to turn the Ninja V into a smartphone than the other way round.
However....when it comes to the screen part of the equation, this is an amusing/infuriating story regarding Atomos and smartphones from the original Ninja where the screen they used was actually a concealed off the shelf HTC phone screen and its housing.
INCLUDING the logo and phone buttons !
https://themagicalworldofsakie.wordpress.com/2018/06/19/atomos-ninja-screen-replacement-rant/
 

The way I think about it is that every camera takes the real-world and creates a stylised version of it, with a unique way to represent colour, luminance, noise, etc, etc.  Some scenes will look better when given the treatment that camera A gives rather than camera B, but a different scene might be better with camera B instead.
This is kind of like when you grade footage, you take the input and change it in a unique way.  In just the same way that a grade that works nicely on one project won't always look nice on the next, every camera probably has its own unique situation where it provides just what is needed.
Maybe the GH4 is the camera you've always wanted for filming hysterically happy mannequins in high-DR mixed lighting?

Maybe this one from the same guy above helps on a decision with the GH6. More focused on it no pun lol.
 

Oddly, I found myself drawn to the imperfections of the GH4 in the test, which has never stood out to me at all. Interesting.

The one big problem with color output is that men and women see colors differently, and there are more people than you think that are color blind, mostly men, I think. So, I would guess other than brightness levels B&W would be seen on an equal footing by the vast majority of people the same.

thanks! I figured it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xylbwiWkAPE
Here comes the FERARRI
(still didn't find out how to insert U2B video straight into post😅

The "through the fence" shot  at 38seconds I found spectacular. Colour, spatial feel, perfect! @kye

I think colors have an effect on perceived sharpness. Back in the film days it seemed to me that no color film could be as sharp as B&W was. Slide film seemed the sharpest, and B&W still beat that when exposed perfectly, same way with slide film.
This new to me Canon FD 300L 2.8 lens was touted as the sharpest lens in the world back in the day. Will be interesting to see if that is true if the damn thing works lol.

That lens is working well for you. Looks good, amazing for what they are price wise used.

Well, I made a total liar out of myself and went and bought another Panasonic GH5 with V Log in it. And to make it even more crazy I bought a Canon FD 300mm f2.8 lens, the big white one, with it, and the older 14-140mm Panny lens, the black and gray one.
With the newer firmware updates the GH5 has gotten a lot better than when I had mine before.  Pretty hard camera to beat used even today.  The 300mm ought to be good for birding and well why not. I am going to use it with my EF to M4/3 Speedbooster so will be interesting. So now I will have even more stuff.

I am not too fond of sharping in camera or in post at all. I think doing that with a great lens known for sharpness, Zeiss comes to mind, is the way to go. It is natural looking and predictable. And yes certain cameras are known for good sharpness also.

Thanks for posting this - I hadn't seen it and I really enjoy doing these blind tests as they reveal what products you like and also reveal what things you're looking for (I look for colour first and foremost, then texture).
My results were as follows:
F BMCC
D GH4
B- NX1, C100
B GH2, Z6
B+ GH1
A 1DC, EVA1
A+ GH6
The BMCC looked like it had colour issues (likely IR pollution).  Most of the cameras got marked down for looking "dirty" which came from shadows being too blue or the image being unacceptably noisy (some noise is fine).  I went back and forth on the top five as some of them made the saturated colours in the checker look neon and others made them darker and desaturated them slightly (like film does) so this aspect is sort-of personal taste.
I must say that I wouldn't have predicted the GH6 coming out on top next to the Z6, 1DC and EVA1 in there, but if the test had included a more modern Canon camera, a current BM camera, a Sony FF camera, or a Sigma FP then I suspect the GH6 might have struggled as those are all excellent.
It's also sad it didn't include a OG BMPCC or BMMCC.  Here's a video that @mercer showed me that is just spectacular.
 

Beautiful footage indeed, puts it at a new camcorder level indeed : ) It could be a grand less at least, even though without VAT in Europe ends for about €3500.

I just saw the pricing in Australia 
I was expecting 3-3.5k AUD, but $4200 is kinda nuts. Sigh  

 
 

Except some red fringing (maybe because of the Vitrox Lens), it looks definitively good.

Heck yes that is the best shooting format ever. I do it all the time with my Z6. You could get a cheap ninja star, and on practically any camera with separate hdmi output settings, can select 4k as the record format but set 1080 as the hdmi output format. Now you have oversampled Prores hq 1080p.  Just no slow motion, which I don’t care about b

I imagine, Panasonic could cash in with a GXTen, just delivering what the GH5 does but in its beautiful form factor and with its built quality. Except, the back dial lost its function after two years of usuage and I read I am not the only one with the back dial issue. Imagine a GX Ten with great PDAF and 10bit GH5 quality and a swivel screen. It would sell like hot cakes I imagine.