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Picture of my motorhome taken with my Nokia 808

Yeah, you get into Diffraction pretty big time, especially using MFT.

Yeah, he hasn't been on for nearly a year. I guess he is a very busy person, especially with his new channel. He can make magic happen no doubt. Best of luck to him.

Ahh my mother told me about people like you. 😬

Yeah they are not cheap in the USA anymore, A good one is getting close to a $1,000.00

Just about the worse fixed ND is better than the best VND. But naturally they are not as convenient, and good fixed NDs are big and expensive. But good VDF are not free either. The VND are not too bad at lower numbers. They have the small, fixed ND holders now that are pretty easy to use.

Your Olympus EM1 Mark II.

I would agree with that statement.

The GH6 open gate looks like an improvement, the rest of it looks like a downgrade, interesting. Thanks for the time taken. But I am sure we will see more tests. Not really sure how to take the footage.

24 frames a second was determined back in the 1920's maybe even teens as the slowest you could hand crank a film movie camera and make it not look jerky, any faster you were eating up too much film. It was all about the money, just like everything is now.

Everyone seems to talk about it but there is hardly any footage presented. Seems odd to me.

The trouble now is every government is woefully slow to the react to the rapid increase in Tech development, social media is a glaring outshoot, and there is probably no way to correct it at all. Years ago you Could damn near predict the future, well not today. So I guess it is going to get worse not better. The greater good theory is probably out the window these days.

A rather lengthy article to reveal that the trick is to get it right in camera to start with. A light meter and a grey card work wonders. Sort of like the old computer saying, garbage in garbage out.

I have noticed a change in you. You seem to put down everyone and everything as of late. Sarcastic as hell to boot, Interesting. From me well sure, from you hmm.

That looks like Clown colors. That is just horrible. Wow is all I can say.

I have never been a big fan of DPR's Sample Gallery, but this is the Sony phone I have, and I think if you didn't know what they were shot on I think they hold up pretty well. Photos and video out of it is pretty plain jane compared to most phones as it doesn't use AI and Computational math like others do. It is more normal camera looking. Is it a Fuji MF killer well no, but it is more impressive than you might think. The OOF areas to me look pretty realistic, as does low light. Sure it is not a A7s, but neither is a GH5. My EM1 MK II has the same sensor. https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/1876772280/sony-xperia-pro-i-sample-gallery/5822001978

Tip here, Sony Phones are Not, I repeat, Not good at working with Motion Pro. I have no clue why, I guess sensor architecture??, but it does work at times and at times it doesn't. So not the best phone for DNG Raw video. They do work great for DNG Raw Photos.. When you open the app a warning comes up stating Sony phones are not really compatible.

I have a Sony Xperia Pro-I and this new phone is pretty much the same except it has a real zoom lens instead of the 1" type mine has. So yeah I bought it because as a phone you always have it with you. But sure a Panasonic hybrid is going to be better at most things over the phone, but how often do you have it with you. And don't think these new phones aren't pretty good at low light, because no MFT camera is really very good at low light either. I have a Olympus EM1 mk II and 1600 ISO is about as low as you dare go on it. That is not a lot to write home to mother about either. But in decent to good light it has magic in it both photo and video. I bought it years ago for birding, they have great AF compared to a Panasonic camera. I have had nothing that is really better at doing wildlife since. Well maybe my 1DC but it is heavy as heck to carry.

What he is trying in a polite way to tell you is that equipment doesn't make much difference, skill and desire do. Marty is one of the best people on here producing videos with equipment most people would toss in their bottom drawer. Mattias Burling is another one of here that is great with not-so-great stuff. Talent not tools make it happen.

So, you think that DNG photo Andrew posted looks like the out-of-focus areas look like they've been drawn onto the video with the blur tool by a toddler? Yeah, I guess it looks like total shit.

You are just making this stuff up. A GH5, low light beast, impossible to shot low light with a phone, yeah, I believe in the tooth fairy also. What don't you think phones have fast primes in them, night modes?

Like I have said someone can give you a Red body, and it still cost a ton to equip them, but they are are pretty killer camera system. For a small company they keep coming up with cool stuff.

But I respect your opinions on here, I know you go to a lot of work on sensors for our information. We are probably, maybe each half right. That way it makes us even. Heck, I don't know, but we are lucky to have what we have. All I know is what I have experienced over a lot of years and a lot of research myself. But I am no engineer.

I think you are ass backwards. Normal cameras are in the dark ages and Smartphones are far into the future compared to a normal camera. Hell you can buy a 10 year old Canon and can't tell it from a new one. I bet your wife gets overall better footage and quicker with her cell phone than you do with your GH5. If spending 2 hours in a NLE is worth it to you versus her having it in an instant well don't know what to tell you. This is 2022 not 2012. All the newest phones have moved the needle way up. If you are comparing the Phones to a Red Komodo well sure, to a GH5 come on. That is not some amazing camera output wise.

Not counting owning a Sony A7s and a A7s mk II, and a A7 mk II, and a A7r, and a A7r mk II. I think I might have a little insight on how all of them worked. YMMV.