Dave Maze

I just re purchased a 1DC and pumped to have it back. Was able to buy the Zacuto Gratical as well with some of the money I saved by re buying it. 

ALSO....if you live in the New York area....take this offer up!!! $2199!!! Insane. http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pho/5735235400.html

I just re purchased a 1DC and pumped to have it back. Was able to buy the Zacuto Gratical as well with some of the money I saved by re buying it. 

ALSO....if you live in the New York area....take this offer up!!! $2199!!! Insane. http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pho/5735235400.html

I just re purchased a 1DC and pumped to have it back. Was able to buy the Zacuto Gratical as well with some of the money I saved by re buying it. 

ALSO....if you live in the New York area....take this offer up!!! $2199!!! Insane. http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pho/5735235400.html

I'd love to get a C500 in two years when the price comes down even more and 4K recorders are $300. 

I'd love to get a C500 in two years when the price comes down even more and 4K recorders are $300. 

I jumped in the pool and the water is great!  I have a BM 4K, but like the files coming out of this C500 better. It is hard to beat Canon color science. In my opinion color science is the essence of the image. When they packaged the C500 with the 7Q+ for what seemed an incredible price of $11,000 - $12,000, then Convergent Design ran a Summer special on the Raw Codecs....  I could not resist and pulled the trigger.
I have not played with it much yet, just shooting test shots side by side with my BM 4K, both in raw and Prores. They are both very sharp cameras, but the C500 brings much more to the table like better color, higher speed, in camera NDs, works with all my Canon glass, EVF for bright sun. no sun spots, almost zero noise, great low light work. This is truly a professional camera. The 7Q+ is a fantastic monitor as well as a recorder. When my brother (who shoots also) saw the quality of the 7Q+ oled monitor, he summed it up in one word...... Wow! So far everything works as advertised. I cant say enough a bout Abel Cine for helping me put it together.
I have been busy completing the build with a Tilta/ redrock rig and should do more shooting soon. And I hope to put up some links.
 
 

Dat ASS

@Lee Kelly  Are you a working professional DP, that is my first question.
 
I loved RED cameras for the cost, heck I have one in my avatar from a shoot and was amazed and how accessible this made it. Prior cameras costed well over 100k (film) and RED really brought/made this possible for people with low budgets (50k) to be able to use them. Now if you have EVER used an Alexa and more specifically an Alexa Mini then you would know why it's simply one of the best looking digital images from an camera Ever....
 
Now for us "Poor" folks I will be buying an Ursa Mini 4.6k  for my personal projects and work on any and everything else.
 
ps. Alexa Mini looks Amazing, Red Dragon looks greta as well, in the end though don't let any camera limit your creativity and shoot your projects on anything you have possible as CONTENT will always be MORE important than any camera you use.... PEACE
 

Canon 5D IV specs are now out in detail and pretty reliable. MJPEG still, no word on crop. Maybe that will be the big thing about 5D - that it won't crop when shooting 4K:
http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-specifications-and-image
A lot of unreliable chatter about a hybrid OVF/EVF. Prism hump seems a big bigger than previous generations, but it could contain anything at this point.

The one I had was a totally different rating. I'm seeing the same quality of 1dc going for $3999 now online on B&H and eBay. 
 
And yes. You are right. I came out on top with what a rental vs return would have been. But how is that wrong again? I am baffled that this argument is still going on? I followed all the rules of purchase and return. How does a rental fee have anything to do with it? I wasn't satisfied with my purchase. If the price drop didn't happen within my 30 day window I wouldn't have returned it. 

Best new theory I've heard! Ever.
 
lol

The one I had was a totally different rating. I'm seeing the same quality of 1dc going for $3999 now online on B&H and eBay. 
 
And yes. You are right. I came out on top with what a rental vs return would have been. But how is that wrong again? I am baffled that this argument is still going on? I followed all the rules of purchase and return. How does a rental fee have anything to do with it? I wasn't satisfied with my purchase. If the price drop didn't happen within my 30 day window I wouldn't have returned it. 

Exactly. DPAF and 4K 60p make a great case for the 1DX II, even without C-Log.

Actually...If I bought it new then it would be non refundable. Used doesn't state that its non refundable...


For the record....I love to stick it to the man. But I haven't done that here. I followed every rule and did literally nothing wrong here. According to their own return policy, by me simply being dissatisfied (price drop) is all that is needed for a valid refund. That is all. I didn't loose $3000. More like $1,000 in the used market. Thats still pretty sucky! Hence my dissatisfaction. 

From Adorama: 
"We believe that in order to have the best possible online shopping experience, our customers should be 100% satisfied with their purchase. So, if you're not happy with your purchase for any reason, just go through our easy self-service return process."
I wasn't 100% satisfied because within that 30 day window the price of the camera went down $3000. That's reason enough according to them to be able to return it. They ran tests on it and responded to me that everything was fine and they clearly saw my usage of it. They still issued the refund. I don't feel like this was a wrong thing at all. Nothing in their return policy does it say "if used on paid work returns aren't allowed". If anything I would think that that's the best way to decide if your "100% satisfied". To use it in paid work environments since that's the way you're gonna be using it if you decide to keep it. 
Hahahaha!

Sorry I'm a dick 

Yes. Adorama has a no questions asked 30 day return policy. As long as it's in good condition and all the pieces are still there 

a p p l e has a great return policy which their salespeople promote
"Youve got two weeks to make sure you love it, if you dont no worries just bring it back"
whether that mac pro was used for "professional" "paid" work or not, believe me, literally no one at the company cares.... i assure you lol 

I decided to signup and become a member just so i can personally combat this silliness.  You're actually suggesting that he feel bad because he bought a camera, saw it go down by 3k, and decided to take advantage of a return policy that a huge company has in place in order to make the most money for themsevles?  Do you think Adorama has that return policy because they're a bunch of sweethearts, or because it ultimately improves their bottom line and gets more people to impulse buy?  
Now that i've got that out of the way, i just bought the 1dc.  Anyone have any thoughts on C-Log vs no C-Log shooting?  To my eye, i think i agree with Abraham Joffe, that not using C-Log and just dialing down the contrast achieves the best look.   Admittedly, i'm a novice shooter.  

agreed!

From Adorama: 
"We believe that in order to have the best possible online shopping experience, our customers should be 100% satisfied with their purchase. So, if you're not happy with your purchase for any reason, just go through our easy self-service return process."
I wasn't 100% satisfied because within that 30 day window the price of the camera went down $3000. That's reason enough according to them to be able to return it. They ran tests on it and responded to me that everything was fine and they clearly saw my usage of it. They still issued the refund. I don't feel like this was a wrong thing at all. Nothing in their return policy does it say "if used on paid work returns aren't allowed". If anything I would think that that's the best way to decide if your "100% satisfied". To use it in paid work environments since that's the way you're gonna be using it if you decide to keep it. 
Hahahaha!

I guess they noticed the "C" badge was deeper red colour cause the blood...

From Adorama: 
"We believe that in order to have the best possible online shopping experience, our customers should be 100% satisfied with their purchase. So, if you're not happy with your purchase for any reason, just go through our easy self-service return process."
I wasn't 100% satisfied because within that 30 day window the price of the camera went down $3000. That's reason enough according to them to be able to return it. They ran tests on it and responded to me that everything was fine and they clearly saw my usage of it. They still issued the refund. I don't feel like this was a wrong thing at all. Nothing in their return policy does it say "if used on paid work returns aren't allowed". If anything I would think that that's the best way to decide if your "100% satisfied". To use it in paid work environments since that's the way you're gonna be using it if you decide to keep it. 
Hahahaha!

I am too, just in different ways.  More of an asshole than a dick.  You are a dick though for sure. 

Sorry I'm a dick