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Agreed. Sony lags far behind Fuji in terms of updates and improvements. Improvmevents usually come by the way of new models. And in the case of the play memories apps, features disappear, never to be seen again. My XT2's are so much better since it was released, with AF improvements coming in two different updates. My a7r2/s2 saw an update that improved startup with the usual mystery "minor bugs and fixes."
I still can't believe in 2018 they can't even include a intervalometer in any camera - not the $4500 a9, the $3200 a7r3 and now the a73 - something just about every other current mirrorless body has. Stuff like that makes it really hard to stick with Sony. I'm in their camp because their sensors are second to none, but I don't like shooting with them.
So yes Fuji sucks for not including video exposure tools, Panasonic sucks because its still using 2009 AF tech in its $2500 bodies while pretending PDAF doesn't exist, Sony sucks for its lack of support across its lines and for fattening the spec sheet while leaving basic usability tools off its bodies and so on. Pick your poison.
I am confident the XH1 issues will get sorted, Fuji has done major FW updates across all its models over the years. Even if its 8 months - which I don't think will be the case - its still better than what we see from others.
Cheers
Chris

Which Sony 1080p cameras have gotten 4K in firmware updates.. oh thats right, none. Ok which Sony cameras have gotten useful features added... oh..
Ok, I got one. Which Sony cameras have had regular issues and bugs fixed...?... hmm..

8 months vs Eternity
I own a Sony and zero Fuji cameras. And Ive bought at least ten times as many Sonys vs any other brand over the years.
They are nice. But one thing they really suck absolute balls at imo. That is Firmware Updates.
Fuji on the other hand is leading the pack there. 

And given that this is a Fuji thread I will say that the A7iii can go suck it. I would never say that in a Sony thread, but here I can say it.
Im am so under impressed about the A7iii that I find it almost comical that people are so extremely excited. Its a cool camera but the hype is so massive. I mean are there even any good reviews on the Sony out yet?
(no, the Vegas reviews do not count at all. Thats just promo material. Im talking user reviews.)

@jonpais can you be more specific? what makes you believe Fuji won't address the AF-C issue on XH1 firmware update 1.10? for all we know it's a simple fix..

8 months? Fuji are pretty responsive imo:
- XT2 was released Sep.8 2016
- First XT2 update was announced Oct.31 2016 and was released Nov.29 2016: http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n161031_02.html
No company is immune to bugs/firmware updates these days.. and early adopters are (unfortunately) prone to dealing with them.
Let's not play the blame game. Buyers of gear need to inform themselves before purchase and make their own decisions.
Personally, i don't think shooting at DR100 is that big an issue. Might even go forward with my XH1 purchase now that the bug is identified.. 
 

Sony doesn't fix jack in my experience, they are the absolute worst in that respect imo. Not bugs and definitely not adding stuff like Fuji and Blackmagic. Fuji are quick on the ball so I wouldn't worry one single bit about it. 
Personally I never ever shoot outside of DR100 so it doesn't matter anyway

Sony isn't immune to bugs... https://www.eoshd.com/2016/01/sony-fs5-codec-problems-and-4k-ripped-edges-bug/
..and firmware fixes: https://nofilmschool.com/2016/02/sony-firmware-v1-1-1-fs5-xavc-codec-image-issue
Some could also argue they still haven't fixed their color science   

DR100 uses straight sensor processing whereas DR200/400 use off-sensor processor trickery to get that extra DR. My guess is Fuji hasn't compensated for the extra DR settings in video mode (which weren't available on XT2) hence AF struggles at DR200/400 because of this. Surely a firmware update will fix this, in the meantime DR100 seems the only option for AF-C.. annoying but at least looks like we got an explanation for the inconsistent AF reports. someone should shoot this up to Fuji HQ..

I can confirm I also discovered that DR400 autofocus inconsistency was the problem, and when on DR100 it is really good from my tests. DR200 also seems good and I'm unsure if it's the same as DR100 or slightly worse at this point. Seems like this is something that can be fixed. Is there a technical reason why performance would be worse at DR400?

Can anyone with the X-H1 confirm this?
 

I do. just tried it. Inconsistent results with DR400, and very usable with DR100. 

Looks damn good. Those Fuji film simulation just nail contrast and color without any tweaks. I was messing around with video on my x100f and couldn’t believe how amazing skintones looked, but file was brittle as hell when moving. Reminded me of the ole T2i. I’d love to play around with some files from the X-H1.

I have had the camera for over a week now and even though I promised myself, not to post in this forum again, I will give my opinion about a few things, maybe they help someone.
These are mainly about handling, the image quality seems to be very good and I don't want to start the discussion about 8bit vs 10bit again. 
The video options are set up nicely, the addition of DCI 4K is very welcome.
You can start the recording with the touchscreen, if you set it to Shot. I also like the silent controls, even if they are a little bit small. I just touch it once to start it and then use the joystick to navigate and set the different options. Not only is it much faster but it doesn't close the menu after setting up one item either.
the new linear manual focus option for focus by wire lenses is great. That Fuji implemented this before Panasonic or Sony does is interesting too. Talking about manual focus, you can punch in either with a key you set up (per default the back wheel) or by double tapping the screen. There are two magnifications, between which you switch by circling the back wheel. You can move the magnified field during recording either with the joystick or by pressing the corners of the touchscreen. Resolution of the magnification is very good.
The same two magnifications are available in the viewfinder, but you probably won't need it, because the resolution of the EVF is very high. There is an Auto-magnification too, which starts when you turn the focus ring, but you have to activate it in the menu. 
 
I only did a few quick tests on autofocus. It worked fine 90% of the time. Nothing to write home about, but acceptable. There are some AF options which I haven't played with too much yet, handling tracking speed and focus speed. 
slow motion has to be activated separately, either through the menu or a function button. I did program a swipe gesture on the touch screen to open the slow motion menu. 
 
Overall you notice, that this camera wasn't designed for video as it's main selling point. But coming from Fujifilm cameras, this is a huge step up. There are a lot of new options and you get the Fujifilm colors, which compensate for some drawbacks, at least for me. Overall I am impressed by the camera, especially for people shooting stills too, this is a very nice option. The new shutter is extremely quiet, you can probably shoot at a set and have no one noticing the sound. 

I have had the camera for over a week now and even though I promised myself, not to post in this forum again, I will give my opinion about a few things, maybe they help someone.
These are mainly about handling, the image quality seems to be very good and I don't want to start the discussion about 8bit vs 10bit again. 
The video options are set up nicely, the addition of DCI 4K is very welcome.
You can start the recording with the touchscreen, if you set it to Shot. I also like the silent controls, even if they are a little bit small. I just touch it once to start it and then use the joystick to navigate and set the different options. Not only is it much faster but it doesn't close the menu after setting up one item either.
the new linear manual focus option for focus by wire lenses is great. That Fuji implemented this before Panasonic or Sony does is interesting too. Talking about manual focus, you can punch in either with a key you set up (per default the back wheel) or by double tapping the screen. There are two magnifications, between which you switch by circling the back wheel. You can move the magnified field during recording either with the joystick or by pressing the corners of the touchscreen. Resolution of the magnification is very good.
The same two magnifications are available in the viewfinder, but you probably won't need it, because the resolution of the EVF is very high. There is an Auto-magnification too, which starts when you turn the focus ring, but you have to activate it in the menu. 
 
I only did a few quick tests on autofocus. It worked fine 90% of the time. Nothing to write home about, but acceptable. There are some AF options which I haven't played with too much yet, handling tracking speed and focus speed. 
slow motion has to be activated separately, either through the menu or a function button. I did program a swipe gesture on the touch screen to open the slow motion menu. 
 
Overall you notice, that this camera wasn't designed for video as it's main selling point. But coming from Fujifilm cameras, this is a huge step up. There are a lot of new options and you get the Fujifilm colors, which compensate for some drawbacks, at least for me. Overall I am impressed by the camera, especially for people shooting stills too, this is a very nice option. The new shutter is extremely quiet, you can probably shoot at a set and have no one noticing the sound. 

I have had the camera for over a week now and even though I promised myself, not to post in this forum again, I will give my opinion about a few things, maybe they help someone.
These are mainly about handling, the image quality seems to be very good and I don't want to start the discussion about 8bit vs 10bit again. 
The video options are set up nicely, the addition of DCI 4K is very welcome.
You can start the recording with the touchscreen, if you set it to Shot. I also like the silent controls, even if they are a little bit small. I just touch it once to start it and then use the joystick to navigate and set the different options. Not only is it much faster but it doesn't close the menu after setting up one item either.
the new linear manual focus option for focus by wire lenses is great. That Fuji implemented this before Panasonic or Sony does is interesting too. Talking about manual focus, you can punch in either with a key you set up (per default the back wheel) or by double tapping the screen. There are two magnifications, between which you switch by circling the back wheel. You can move the magnified field during recording either with the joystick or by pressing the corners of the touchscreen. Resolution of the magnification is very good.
The same two magnifications are available in the viewfinder, but you probably won't need it, because the resolution of the EVF is very high. There is an Auto-magnification too, which starts when you turn the focus ring, but you have to activate it in the menu. 
 
I only did a few quick tests on autofocus. It worked fine 90% of the time. Nothing to write home about, but acceptable. There are some AF options which I haven't played with too much yet, handling tracking speed and focus speed. 
slow motion has to be activated separately, either through the menu or a function button. I did program a swipe gesture on the touch screen to open the slow motion menu. 
 
Overall you notice, that this camera wasn't designed for video as it's main selling point. But coming from Fujifilm cameras, this is a huge step up. There are a lot of new options and you get the Fujifilm colors, which compensate for some drawbacks, at least for me. Overall I am impressed by the camera, especially for people shooting stills too, this is a very nice option. The new shutter is extremely quiet, you can probably shoot at a set and have no one noticing the sound. 

I have had the camera for over a week now and even though I promised myself, not to post in this forum again, I will give my opinion about a few things, maybe they help someone.
These are mainly about handling, the image quality seems to be very good and I don't want to start the discussion about 8bit vs 10bit again. 
The video options are set up nicely, the addition of DCI 4K is very welcome.
You can start the recording with the touchscreen, if you set it to Shot. I also like the silent controls, even if they are a little bit small. I just touch it once to start it and then use the joystick to navigate and set the different options. Not only is it much faster but it doesn't close the menu after setting up one item either.
the new linear manual focus option for focus by wire lenses is great. That Fuji implemented this before Panasonic or Sony does is interesting too. Talking about manual focus, you can punch in either with a key you set up (per default the back wheel) or by double tapping the screen. There are two magnifications, between which you switch by circling the back wheel. You can move the magnified field during recording either with the joystick or by pressing the corners of the touchscreen. Resolution of the magnification is very good.
The same two magnifications are available in the viewfinder, but you probably won't need it, because the resolution of the EVF is very high. There is an Auto-magnification too, which starts when you turn the focus ring, but you have to activate it in the menu. 
 
I only did a few quick tests on autofocus. It worked fine 90% of the time. Nothing to write home about, but acceptable. There are some AF options which I haven't played with too much yet, handling tracking speed and focus speed. 
slow motion has to be activated separately, either through the menu or a function button. I did program a swipe gesture on the touch screen to open the slow motion menu. 
 
Overall you notice, that this camera wasn't designed for video as it's main selling point. But coming from Fujifilm cameras, this is a huge step up. There are a lot of new options and you get the Fujifilm colors, which compensate for some drawbacks, at least for me. Overall I am impressed by the camera, especially for people shooting stills too, this is a very nice option. The new shutter is extremely quiet, you can probably shoot at a set and have no one noticing the sound. 

I have had the camera for over a week now and even though I promised myself, not to post in this forum again, I will give my opinion about a few things, maybe they help someone.
These are mainly about handling, the image quality seems to be very good and I don't want to start the discussion about 8bit vs 10bit again. 
The video options are set up nicely, the addition of DCI 4K is very welcome.
You can start the recording with the touchscreen, if you set it to Shot. I also like the silent controls, even if they are a little bit small. I just touch it once to start it and then use the joystick to navigate and set the different options. Not only is it much faster but it doesn't close the menu after setting up one item either.
the new linear manual focus option for focus by wire lenses is great. That Fuji implemented this before Panasonic or Sony does is interesting too. Talking about manual focus, you can punch in either with a key you set up (per default the back wheel) or by double tapping the screen. There are two magnifications, between which you switch by circling the back wheel. You can move the magnified field during recording either with the joystick or by pressing the corners of the touchscreen. Resolution of the magnification is very good.
The same two magnifications are available in the viewfinder, but you probably won't need it, because the resolution of the EVF is very high. There is an Auto-magnification too, which starts when you turn the focus ring, but you have to activate it in the menu. 
 
I only did a few quick tests on autofocus. It worked fine 90% of the time. Nothing to write home about, but acceptable. There are some AF options which I haven't played with too much yet, handling tracking speed and focus speed. 
slow motion has to be activated separately, either through the menu or a function button. I did program a swipe gesture on the touch screen to open the slow motion menu. 
 
Overall you notice, that this camera wasn't designed for video as it's main selling point. But coming from Fujifilm cameras, this is a huge step up. There are a lot of new options and you get the Fujifilm colors, which compensate for some drawbacks, at least for me. Overall I am impressed by the camera, especially for people shooting stills too, this is a very nice option. The new shutter is extremely quiet, you can probably shoot at a set and have no one noticing the sound. 

Luckily Fuji actually works with firmware updates.

interesting. You have been asked, what your problem with 8bit recording is, but instead of answering it, you just repeat the same stuff over and over again. My X-H1 should be here tomorrow, if anyone is interested in some details PM me, won't write in this thread anymore, it got way out of hand. 

Yes and what is that reason? Genuine question.  The canon 1dc does 8 bit after all. I see the other thread everyone ranting and raving about its image quality. 

Don't be so pessimist : ) Non-intra 200mbps should be enough to overcome eventual weak bit depth issues... :-)

What do you think the extra 2 bits will give you that you won't get out of the camera already? 
I appreciate the videso. Thank you. Good to see some log footage out there. 

We should keep it going as a sticky and change the title to 'Shit-posting thread' for when anyone feels like letting off steam.

Very nice colours in that Nepal video. I like how Eterna make the skies a tad cyan. Nice dynamic range and the night clips are beautiful too. Nice AF shift to that boy that suddenly enters in front of the main subject. 
I disagree with Northrup that the XH1 should have had a fully articulating screen. I really dislike them and it would be a definitive deal killer – I don't want to look down at my screen off the camera's center axis. Annoys me to no end. The articulation also adds extra movements that have to be performed to view the screen. Should just be a flip up motion like on a 500CM or Rolleiflex. I understand that it is valuable for vloggers but there are better cameras for vlogging than a reinforced sturdy pro body like this. For the occasional self portrait or weird angle I've found the smartphone app to work perfectly well. 

4K, nice colors. Looking good

4K, nice colors. Looking good