Dustin

Unless you are going to use the GH4 with an external recorder (but why? Would be cheaper to skip the external recorder and buy a GH5) then I'd go for the G85 (wellllll.. the GH4's 96fps is another reason, but you get a heavy hit in quality when going from 60fps to 96fps)
Can't you by hand enter in the focal length into the Sony camera? Like you can with Panasonics
 
A problem with cheaper cameras is often they don't get as much talent applied to them (as the top notch guys buy more expensive cameras), thus very often in demos of cheap cameras you don't see their full capabilities displayed. 
 

I really don't think I would give up APSC, Face Focus, Eye Focus, Clear Zoom, the best 4K out there, SLog 2, SLog 3, on and on for a Panny G85. Not me. But it is cheaper. Easy to spend your money.
All you have to do is go to Jason Lanier's web site. He started out with the Sony A6300, A6500 after he quit using Nikon gear. Made him famous. He uses those and the A7 series cameras now. He is probably the most recognized model, wedding photographer in the world now. And probably one of the most highly paid ones.
http://www.jasonlanier.com/

This is how you set it up.
https://www.slrlounge.com/how-to-use-sony-steadyshot-with-old-manual-and-adapted-lenses/

It just remembers the last setting so if you don’t change the lens, the last setting is still active. 

No it remembers it.

@Dustin 120fps in this camera is seriously bad. If this is a big selling point for you, try to see some footage first before buy. 
Coincidentally, I watched some clips - shot on a studio with lights - this very morning, and the results were unusable. With less than sufficient light, I have seen terrible stuff.
Andrew Reid had posted a high frame rate list of cameras, a  while ago, and he expressed a similar opinion.

Yeah the whole Sony line up is Really hard to pass on. They have really pushed for a lot of great ideas on their cameras. I know people complain about the menus, but it is complex because the cameras have a lot of complex things they can do that a lot of cameras, particularly DSLRs can't do.
Other than if you need 10bit, which is nice no doubt, and are into Anamorphic big time, Sony has a camera that is probably not going to be beat by others. The newest A7 mk III has really good colors now right OOC and really good AF from the A9. And the face and eye focus alone is worth it. Not counting Clear Zoom, on and on..

@mercer I agree man right camera for the right job!
As for me I’m obviously still evaluating. As far as my needs/wants the line gets blurred a bit, I believe I have settled on IBIS if nothing else to add some stabilization to the couple manual primes. Also my experience with the d5200/d5300 while I have made quite a few videos I’m proud of, doesn’t meet my current run and gun shooting style. If I’m on a tripod for an interview, I don’t mind the Nikon. If I’m on vacation or somewhere trying to get a good shot fast, I don’t want to be fiddling with settings. This includes focus which is why I’ve decided good AF would be a good benefit to my style. I was already impressed yesterday like I said playing with the a6300 AF.
Im also wanting a more flexible image and 120fps which the Sony offers. That said if the G85 had Sony/canon level autofocus- I would be buying it in a heartbeat and could live without the 120fps.
I hope that makes sense! I do understand the limitations of the Sony system but with my needs I can’t think of anything else that meets in and is ALSO in my price range. Besides maybe the m50.
Edit: @mercer the overheating warning does bum me out as I’ve never had to deal with that before. I don’t really shoot much long form video anymore but obviously shooting weddings or events would affect that. I’m also starting to think maybe purchase as an introduction into the Sony eco-system and if I like and get serious enough, I could always use as a b-cam. (Or sell and switch to another system).

Thats what I thought before I went hunting for the EVF/LCD switch option.

Spoiler Alert :::: There isn't one so kiss goodbye to one of your function buttons  

Yeah I have a woman friend of mine that is a Pro photographer and she still uses a Canon 5D mk III for all her work. And she does any and all that comes by shoots wise. She is not really a Wedding photog, but she has done them. She likes a few weekends off.  ☺️

No question, I’d go with the a6500 over the a6300. But also be prepared to have a hard time seeing the LCD screen in daylight if using sLog and be prepared to get an on overheating warning. I can’t say much about the AF because I used old manual focus lenses with it. The 4K is insanely detailed and sharp, especially when downscaled to 1080p. And for me, the color was kinda wonky, but I’m sure a better colorist would do fine with it.
With that being said, if you research online, there’s a reason why the lion share of wedding videographers still use Canon cameras.
I honestly don’t believe in recommending cameras any more. I’ll discuss my experiences with them based on my limited skill set, but these choices are so personal to individual needs, one really has to decide what specific spec or specs get them hot and bothered and go from there.
Whatever your choice, good luck!

If you Only use one lens a lot, and it is not a extending zoom they are pretty good. If you change lenses a lot, you will try to find the highest skyscraper you can find and jump off of it. You are Never going to be able to use one of those mechanical Gimbals for a wedding. You have to change lenses all the time and damn fast unless you have 4 cameras hanging off of you. You can't really even use a Electronic Gimbal changing lenses fast. IBIS and a OIS lenses on it to boot that is matched to the camera is the only way it will work for fast changing situations.
Giving up IBIS for what you want to do, nah, go for the A6500. If you really want to shoot videos for weddings the camera is the least of your cost. Getting into video is DAMN expensive. You are going to have to have a really good tripod and fluid head, damn good lighting, great lenses, on and on. And you Really need a backup to all of it. I shot weddings for years and years. If it can break, or you forgot it, it happened. I had backups for backups trust me. You Only have one shot to get it. And now everyone is sue happy. You can't half ass a wedding. And you really can't start small. It is balls to the wall or nothing if you want to charge for it. And on top of it you have to look and act professional as hell or oh boy. That means more than a Cellphone and a flashlight.

As much as I love my A7s (and it is to me still the best camera I have had), I would never recommend it for someone that wants good AF in video.       It is ok for MY uses but I don't need it to focus on anything really far or fast moving for video.      Likewise for stills, it can  not AFC to save its life (though AFS is excellent and even in almost no light).
 
I would try the A6500 (and A6300) and see what you think yourself as it seems they may well suit you and make up your own mind (lots of people will probably try and steer you to M43 or to stay with Nikon -both are fine for many people).
There are a couple of Sony kit lenses and while they get a bad rap with some people, I thought the 16-50 I had was actually pretty good (though I only used it on FF cameras sparingly a little). 

I agree I don't have any problems with AF with my A7s but could you honestly recommend it for AF in video for someone for whom that was a/the major feature?      Pretty sure I would hate it if that was my most desired point (it isn't and there are so many things I love it for).
Nice find with the lenses!     I love haunting Pawnshops and charity stores.

I have No complains about focus with my A7s in AFS like noone says. Is it a killer focusing camera, not if you have that Bottle Rocket burning your cheeks back there. I like the A6500 a lot better than the A6300 because of the IBIS. But Sony Has to be close to coming out with a new one, and the prices on it will drop like a rock. But it is a heck of a good camera now with the newest firmware. They raised the temperature thingy on it so it doesn't overheat as often now.
Yeah the M50 looks interesting but no DPAF in 4K, and you really need to buy the Speedbooster to make it work. That is a 1000 bucks total right there. And it doesn't have many tricks up it's sleeve other than good color output, which I know is important, and soft 1080p with DPAF, which I know is ehh, well I don't like soft 1080p Unless I want to make it soft LoL..
The problem with most Video Cameras is they just don't have many features you need other than Sony and Panasonic cameras. I guess it just depends on how serious you want to get. I mean at the price point you are looking at you probably can sell anything you buy and not loose much down the road. Now if you buy a lot of lenses for it well then you can take a big hit if you change brands, or go from APSC  say to FF. That is why I love the Sony A7s. FF and it has the APSC crop mode in it, plus the Sony Clear Zoom. And since it is mirrorless you can use damned near any lens other than s16, m4/3 stuff.
I went to a thrift store near me a few days ago and bought a camera bag with a old Pentax SP 500 film camera on it with 4 lenses in the bag for 16 dollars! It had 3 M42 screw lenses, a 24mm f2.8, a 28mm f2.8 and a 135mm f2.8. And a Canon FD  28mm f 2.8 all with caps for both ends! All of it looks like brand new. All will work on my A7s. Just magic I tell you.
 

1080p on both the A6300, A6500 is pretty terrible. The A6500 is damn good for 4K though. I agree, in this day and age I don't think either one would be on my radar at all. I would take a GH4 over one of them any day. AF is about the least of your concerns on a Video Camera purchase. You want to use touch screen focus. Why would you want a camera to decide what the hell it wants to focus on, not you? The Sony eye focus I can see if you are doing Weddings, Corporate Interviews, etc. Now if you want to run around like you have a Bottle Rocket up your Butt, well then I guess you need AF and a Life Squad! ?
There is a Sony A7s on Craigslist where I live for $775.00.  https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pho/d/used-sony-7s/6611663099.html
I would sure rather have that than a A6300 for nearly the same money. The A7s has about the best looking 1080p going right out of the camera sharpness wise. Maybe not the best colors back then, but I like those colors. But they do have Luts and Editors for that in this day and age LoL. ?

Why not Panasonic? (Or BMD)
As you're not using Sony now, so you've got no lens investments in Sony to lean you in that direction. Personally I'd strongly avoid the a6300 due to how easily they overheat 
Also if you like Nikon, maybe give a second look at the D7500? 
Or perhaps even hold out and wait a little longer for a "D5700" which surely will get 4K

Canon rumors released some specs on the new G7X III and M5 II. I'm most excited to see what they do with the M5. The M5 is supposed to be a higher end camera from the M50...but the M50 is so so good IMO. If they have 4k with DPAF and no crop...now we're talking. That new sensor paired with the Digic 8 might allow that to happen. My thoughts are maybe at VidCon Canon will release the G7X Mark III. It's the perfect "vlogger" camera and would be a nice splash in the market coming off the trails of the Sony RX100 6.
We are going to VidCon next week so I will let you know if anything happens there. 
 
Here are the specs from Canon Rumors:
EC804 – Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark III
4.2x Zoom
1″ sensor
DPAF
4k Video (no DPAF)
GPS
This camera features a new Canon 1″ sensor
EC811 Canon EOS M5 Mark II
28.3MP APS-C mirorless camera
4K@30fps video and DPAF.
This camera features a new Canon APS-C sensor
http://www.canonrumors.com/are-these-the-next-canon-cameras-to-be-announced-cr1/

Tripod mostly. I used handheld on a sandbag out of a car window for the following shot.
Thanks man. Actually I wasn't implying a transition of time. I wanted to make it hyper-dubious. She just shows up out of nowhere with no warning!

@AaronChicago Wow that looked killer! Tripod, monopod, gimbal or handheld? Also that shot where the actress is walking were you following her in a car window? Looks really cinematic to my eye- great job!

I rented a Master Anamorphic 50mm for another project on the Helium, but walked over to Chinatown in Chicago with a couple of friends to shoot this little short with the GH5s. All at 3200 ISO.
 

Now none of the A7 series cameras over heat anymore. You can buy a original A7 or a A7s for less than 1000 bucks all day. Cheaper than a A6500, even a A6300 at times. And the 1080p is killer in the A7s. And it sucks in the A6300, A6500. But 4k is Killer in the A6500. Plus you are talking FF here also, with the ability to use the crop thingy.

Trying to get nice 1080 while casual handheld shooting with an ILC is a mine-field I've been trying to cross for some time.
To grossly over-simplify:
All cinema cameras are out because they're either too heavy or too attention grabbing Canon non-cinema cameras are deliberately crippled to protect their cinema line Canon with ML is unreliable and has a steep learning curve The GH5 either can't focus reliably or people can't work out how to do it The Sonys all seem to overheat (although depending on what you shoot this might not be an issue) and the smaller/cheaper ones have bad RS The Fuji XH-1 chews batteries and the extra grip costs extra and makes it pretty heavy Things like the original BMPCC need a rig and becomes cumbersome (BMPCC needs external power) Going modular with things like the BMMCC requires a rig and BMMCC has almost no controls and so you can't use it to adapt to changing situations Mostly the way I see people getting around this combination is to either choose Canons soft 1080, sacrifice reliability and use Canon ML RAW, get a fast fixed-lens camera like RX100 or RX10, accept RS and overheating with a6300/6500, or accept a fixed focal length and give a big middle-finger to the whole industry and use their phone (where with up to 4k60 and 1080p240 it beats everything up to 10x or 20x the price).   Or just put it on a tripod, and accept that you'll get hassled or barred from most places you go.
The basic issue is that industry assumes that consumers who want convenience don't want image quality (compact point-and-shoots), consumers who want image quality only take photos (Canon DSLRs take lovely photos), or that if you want image quality then you're a pro and you can use a tripod and don't mind a huge camera.  We're caught between the other users basically.

Ah come on guys.... we all know a cage, and other add-ons will hide most of its physical features.... why even care at that point?

Not that this will win some beauty awards, but it is nowhere as ugly as the initial renders. If you watch the pics on the Blackmagic site, it actually looks pretty nice.
Must be the make-up and lighting.