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@noone Tell you what, without a patronizing tone, of course!:) S1 in 4K at 25600 pushed by two stops downscaled to HD might look better. Will test that with my 50mm FD 1.4 these when I´m back home. Unless someone else is faster.:)

Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your reply! 1. manual lens, Soligor/Unitor 35-70mm zoom in FD mount- just to name it for the lens lovers among us:), sofore it was in 2. manual focus 3. ambient temperature about 20 to 25 degree Celcius, indoors 4. short video clips of ten to 120 seconds mostly 4k 8bit 25p full frame, ten percent h265 mode with 75mbit in the mix, 50 percent photos 5. battery about six monthis in use, problem occured the last two times in the row now within the last ten or so days. To give my perpective on it, original batteries from Panasonic never failed me on my G6, G7 and GX85 cameras. I have been using these cameras in 30 degrees air, under direct sun. GH5 has served me in super hot conditions for a whole week when we had 40 degrees in Germany two years ago. So would it be possible that the S1 gives that lack of battery performance after a certain period of battery usage, after a few months, I am thinking. If this is not the case I would just buy another original battery and be very happy with my camera. Even moreso once I got the Vlog ugrade.:)

@deezid That would be super cool!!:) Did you come across problems with the original battery? My camera shuts off at 20% battery power left. Have been using my S1 very moderately. Issue occured after six months of usage.:/

For lowlight I film at 4000iso with the Panny S1 and push it two stops in post. Massive low light quality for the S1 and probably S1H. Much, much better than ISO 12800! When filming with the rather slim 75mbit h256 10bit 420 codec, quality is even better. I was very surprised by that codec option.

For me it would be: Pony up and get that S1 shortfilm on:) Just that battery issue i discovered with mine, shutting off at 20% battery life left, yikes.

@Andrew Reid I assume you will love the quality of the image coming from this camera. Would love you to hear your impressions regarding the "cinematic" image, also in comparision to the Sigma FP or Lumix S1. cheers

Hallo friends, Before one buys a camera one of the rather important things for professional video is a reliable battery solution. That includes not only adequate battery life but precise power meterting and levels as well. It is very unpleasant to say the least to have a camera shut down during filming. My Lumix S1 has shut down twice in a row now at 20% power left. After six months of moderate usage the original battery seems not reliable anymore. Anyone of you S1 owners and users with the same issue? I am planning on selling my camera, as I am not willing to test and test for battery issues and to have to bother with doubts. Hopefully some of you can give some insights. Otherwise awesome sensor and soso menues. Pipeline in 8bit is also impressive. Cheers

@deezidzero sharpening look is looking good! Was it shot at 1080p or 4K? Image looks creamy. What lens did you use? How is the S1 holding up to the S1H with the FW 2.0?

I second that. Regarding the infamouns DOF, the ZV1 with F2.8 at the long end would still give s35 look at 5.6 regarding dof. 1.8 would give a 3.5 at the wide end. So this camera wide open would give the same dof look like a standard kit lens on a Fuji XT4 or Nikon D500 (the latter in HD mode ). S16 format is often shot at f2.8. Sure thing, if one loves the handling for fictional work. Otherwise, no.:)

@MrSMW My S1 also has a battery problem. Second time directly after the first incident and after recharge it shut off at 20% remaining power. I am using the original battery. This is puzzling me. Do I buy another battery which will give me the same bug after a few months of moderate usage? Should I sell the camera? I bought it for image quality and portability. So it would be a pity to sell it. I was planning on using it on a rather challenging shoot. Now I would rather grab a GH5 instead. Afaik the SL2 is similar to the internals of the S1R. I would like to know if the S1 also has a problem with battery or if I just got a new model with a bad onion of a battery.

@deezid What´s your take on the S1 vs S1h regarding pure image quality now, after the update? Full analysis regarding ghosting, smearing, aliasing, harshness of edges and so on, as we have been appreciating it coming from you before, our dearest watcher of the cinematic VLOG image! cheers

I proved to myself what I am capable of as an camera operator and originator of my own cinematography. I am pretty happy about my potential. But the it takes so much to keep senses and body and soul and metaphysics:) sharp. To keep the game up is where it is.That is the skill game. Hard enough for me to deliver all the time under these exhausting circumstances I having been working under. Now, the "industry game", getting paid well is even another story. A lot of talent struggling to make it as a creator. Many of them leaving the industry or switching towards being an AC, AD, Boom OP, PA and so on. I admire the amateur, I love Maya Deren and the likes. Nolan never did it for me. Super tough stuff to make but as much art to me as a super high skyscraper would be to me, none. I love my shit. To me it is art. I love a lot of your guys stuff. There is a photographic Gestalt to some of the images you people created one will not find anywhere else. So keep it up and sell the burden of too much gear for a darn good price. There are many out there willing to buy some of that promise of newly acquired happiness.:)

I second Djangos thought on the lenses. Left one is a Vivitar? Don´t have my 90mm with me as I am on the road. Not the 90mm I think. Middle I won´t tell, too awesome of a lens it is. Andrew has already mentioned it:) Camera I think is S1. Rich focus rolloff with characteristic corners from the FF lens, thick colours. Funny if all of ous got a bit fooled by our preassumptions.

Great to hear, Andrew. Looks so handsome on the FP with that grip! I loved the original Soligor ad for the lens. Best print ad for me for years. It made me buy the lens decades later after its appearance.:) Hopefully I get to test it more this weekend on the S1. Maybe some horses. It looked like a great match for my speedboosted GX85. Great little camera with nice ooc colour if one takes the time to play with the profiles a bit. It´s just fun to do the look in camera. Starting to mumble like Greta Gerwig. Oh well, great thread, so relaxing and informative. Perfect time to go to bed.

Hmm, this is one of the coolest threads about gear this year so far imho. Minolta AF 35mm 2.0- thank you for this great info, Andrew! I would keep my newly acquired Sony F3. I was amazed about the internal SLOG in 8bit 420. I don´t think its internal image is worse than from the C100 mk1+2 nor from the old C300. Need to hook up my Shogun if I can find it- talking about GAS and not using stuff:) Would keep the S1 and get the VLOG update and would love to buy the 28-50 Canon FD. I´m a sucker for 28mm on S35 or at least speedboosted MFT format. Last piece of gear this year, of course! Would keep my GX85. Inspires me like the G6 before.

Darn! Great light. Great captures! Thanks for showing. No 2 and 3 are especially beautiful.

Wow. Awesome stuff. Tasty treats! How is the Soligor/Hanimex treating you? @Andrew Reid I find it nice at f4. 2.5 is obviously glowy. Surely tames the resolution of the S1:) But at f4 already I find it a great lens for filming. F4 is plenty to work for keeping the subject in focus. The 37 140, now we need to see that one capturing some sights!

Wow! What an article and cliffhanger! Cannont wait to read part 2 and see some images! Thanks for awesome reading pleasure, Andrew!

Lovin it. Filmed some leefs and branches moving in the wind outside my window today. Light was glowing. My dirty window glass giving beautifuls distortion to the image. Filmed in 8bit internal SLOG with my latest GAS powered Sony F3 and Tokina 28-70. Heavy beast of a camera, which will heal my GAS! Shot the same sight with my Panny S1 afterwards, 8bit rec709 profile. Both cameras gave me beautiful images. What an afternoon, feeling completely satisfied :) Loved the text of your video @jgharding

That´s what I thought.:/ It turned off without any message at all when I was snapping some photographs. Lens was the beloved Tokina 25 - 50 F4. Yikes.

Nothing like an old thread. Nothing reads like it, lasts like and has been itching its latest posters like it.:)

Is it possible to record with the Shogun Flame? I connect my camera to it, but recording doesn´t work with it, neither by triggering with camera nor directly.

Cool! Cannot wait to hear how you like it! I got the Unitor labeled version. The Soligor version was pretty well received back then by photomagazines. If you look at the original magazine ad, you can see, Soligor was selling it as a pro lens. I bought mine as a poor mans Minolta 35 - 70:) The Minolta in version III is supposed to be one of the best 2x zooms. So it is a bit adventerous that you bought that Hanimex since you own the Minolta, Andrew.:) @BTM_Pix That´s a steal! 2x zooms are something to check out, as often written on this forum. My Tokina 25 to 50 is really cool, giving cinematic quality to light by an instant. Mine is even parfocal at 25 and 50mm! One thing from other testers about this lens, wide open it is very sensitive to reflections and backlight but otherwise still nicely resolving on sensors. Back to the S1. If Panasonic can give us perfect HD on both the S1 and S1H up to 60p I would feel spoiled! Until now it seems worse to than G6 regarding mushiness of textures and aliasing. There is one thing I wanna share with you. I hope it´s only an exception. My camera shut off with 25% power left on the display. I was using the original battery.

GH6, S35 sensor with mft mount like LS300, still with IBIS. Full 3 to 2 sensor readout at 60p and 4K at 120p. Internal Prores plus h264 and h265 flavours. Timecode In and out. Battery grip with SDI. Full VLOG with true zero sharpening and noise reduction. Flawless HD like GH5, which S1 and S1H don´t provide that unfortunately. 10 bit in high frame rates. 2000 EU. Deal! I enjoy mine. Have only tested it inside and was surpised by its image quality on speedboosted mft.