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I think this is where the problem lies... that footage does look filmic. I can see why you like it. 

that's a test i want to see

I think, tech wise, we can obtain a look, with video, akin to older film stocks, or aged movies, pretty well, but modern stocks are still out of our reach. Of course, I like the "filmic" aesthetic that is possible with modern cameras. It's not the same, but it's similar. 

But I couldn't agree more with Mattias, the closest I have seen is from Raw footage, either from the Digital Bolex, or the Pocket Cam, or some ML Raw footage. 

Or maybe it's possible to achieve a filmic look, but not a cinematic look?

great info, thanks I'll check it out. I will probably never use it... When I was younger, I spent a few nights loading 16mm film into an old Bolex inside a changing bag... That was basically my only job, other than a little acting, but it was a bit tedious. Am not sure if I'll ever really shoot film with it, so the gate change could be a smart move to get me closer to my Pocket Cam. 

never thought of that, does s16 only have sprockets on one side?

Nice, I just picked up a nos Miranda 28mm 2.8. Haven't gotten it delivered yet though. I, also, have a Krasnogorsk, it was in a photography lot I bought off eBay years ago for 25 bucks. I didn't even know it was part of the lot until it came in the mail... Imagine my surprise. Of course it didn't come with the Meteor lens, but is the M42 version. I need to buy some 16mm film one of these days and test it out... Or sell it. Btw, did you ever sell that Pocket Cam?

Also, is that a krasnogorsk?

25mm? What brand?

Smart move. Everybody swears by Schott Glass on the B+W, but if it's on a sub $50 variable filter, all of a sudden it's cheap? Well, I hope you like it. I love mine. 

I think it's even simpler than that... When you go to a store, Canon has more camera models displayed and on the shelves than other brands do.

Also, the Canon and Nikon names are synonymous with photography.

Panasonic and Sony and Samsung have products in so many different electronic arenas that it confuses your average consumer. If your average, everyday consumer decides to buy a camera, they go to the store and look at all of the cameras. They see Sony and think... I have a Sony TV and headphones. Then they see a Panasonic and think... I have a Panasonic electric razor or I have a Panasonic microwave... Then they move down the aisle and see a Canon or a Nikon and they think... My Dad had a Canon or... my Grandpa had a Nikon...

RitzGear variable nd filter. They're made with Schott Glass, which I believe B+W filters are made from as well. They cost between 30-40 dollars on Amazon. Can't be beat for the price. 

I know, I went off topic and me and Renaissance Man were discussing the new NX-Mini 2 that is soon to be released.

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13271/samsung-nx-mini-2-4k-little-mouse-/p1

Earlier I had asked about stacking a c-mount to m42 adapter, then an m42 to an NX adapter to the NX-500, and wondered how close to infinity I could get... is that what you are referring to? 

Sorry about the confusion.

I know c-mount goes to the NX-Mini mount. 

I think Vaga was unsure about the G7, and wanted to do a comparison between the 3. 

I found adapters for c-mount and d-mount lenses to the NX-M. I assume you could adapt m43, if they make adapters, but I haven't looked for any because I don't have any m43 lenses. Yeah, I was thinking it could be the poor man's pocket cam.

It seems like once a Samsung camera is leaked with photos, then the announcement happens within a month and the camera is out within two... So it should be out sometime in September.

The specs say it will have 24p 4K, let's hope they don't cripple it by not having manual video controls. 

Could be an awesome little run and gun camera to use old d-mount and c-mount lenses. For fun, if nothing else. 

Actually, I just read that the NX mini 2 was leaked last month with photos and specs... And supposedly will have 4K on their 1" BM sensor recording in h.264. 

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13271/samsung-nx-mini-2-4k-little-mouse-/p1

All good points. I actually really like the video quality, at a cheap enough price point the crop doesn't bother me too much.

Of course, I am only interested in it as a 3-400 dollar manufacturer refurb. At that money, even if I shoot one short with it, it was worth it.

I wonder if an upcoming NX mini will have the 2.5k preproduction function. 

So, I've read that due to the flange distance a c mount lens adapter won't work with the NX mount, but if you get a c mount to m42 and then stack that onto an m42 to NX adapter, how close can you get to infinity? If it's even possible to get slightly under infinity, I realize you would have a vignette issue, but i wonder how much of a center crop you would need to eliminate the vignette on a 12.5mm 1 inch c mount lens?

I noticed the price on the NX500 is starting to drop on eBay. Do any of the owners have any footage uploaded online since the firmware update? At the $500 range this camera is getting more and more tempting. 

Nice lens. The bokeh on that 2.8 blows my mind. I have two of these, the same version you have and an older model that has a little silver on it with a nubby rubber grip. I think I paid 50 each and both of them have aperture problems. I think there's something wrong with the pin. I also have the 35mm f2.4, which I got for a steal. It was recently cleaned and declicked... Which is nice. I'm thinking about having the 50mm 2.8 declicked too, if I can find someone to do it for a reasonable price. I'd love to get the 20mm 2.8 or f4 but I can't justify the price right now. 

I thought I read somewhere that Canon doesn't believe 4K televisions are going to be as big a seller as a lot predict, so if they do believe that and they're right, then 4k videoe may not be as important a feature to your average, everyday consumer, where they dominate in that market share. 

Yeah, and the GH5 will cost well over 2 grand. That's the problem with the constant upgrading of new models. They continue to sell the older model at its original price point and then they bump up the price of the new model into a different price/level tier. 

It's exciting to see Panasonic implement 4K into their smallest, sensor compact cameras. I assume Canon's hand will be forced to include 4K in upcoming models, most likely in their Rebel line, but probably into their G series as well, and who knows... Maybe even their S series. 

I've been looking at the FZ1000, for it's 4K capabilities, for a specific project, but this may be all I need. Has there been any talk of the FZ1000's successor? If not, I wonder if the FZ300 will bring down the price point of the FZ1000. 

I was pleasantly surprised by the NX500. Like others, I was more impressed with the preproduction model, but I do believe it is an underrated camera. The LX100 is another possibility, but I think it will stay in it's price point longer than the FZ1000 will.