Ty Harper

55 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I think a new parlour game in the upcoming years when generating this stuff becomes more readily/instantly available will be image makers entering a specific prompt describing one of their own images that they have put online and determining how much has been lifted from their work based on the output that comes back

Absolutely! I first saw the video via an IG acct so I used Google Images to search for the original video and all I got was what seemed like all the images the image I clipped was trained on.

2 hours ago, MrSMW said:

But I suppose the material still needs to exist to pull together to make this kind of thing and as a commercial and BTS, enough exists, but not for any kind of real movie that would require a unique script and acting.

Yes I'd agree that that is where we are at this moment - but obvi that will eventually change. At the very least I'd think that you won't need as much location shooting, b-roll/alternate shots, human extras, etc.

Stunning.

Longshot here, but anyone have experience with the R50 in hot climates (100F or so)?

I'm researching the R50 at the moment for an overseas trip/passion project (can be had for $300USD nowadays!) and I'm wondering:

(i) If anyone who has used it in hot (100F or so) conditions can chime in about experiences w/ overheating (like, how much time you've gotten on average when shooting very short - 60 sec or less - clips)?

(ii) Given that it only has HDR PQ and no CLOG at all - how does the HDR PQ matches up with other cams (like the R5C, R5, etc)

I'm aware that some have successfully added thermal pads to reduce overheating but I'm hoping to not have to do all that!

Again, a long shot but any informed opinions are appreciated!

Longshot here, but anyone have experience with the R50 in hot climates (100F or so)?

I'm researching the R50 at the moment for an overseas trip/passion project (can be had for $300USD nowadays!) and I'm wondering:

(i) If anyone who has used it in hot (100F or so) conditions can chime in about experiences w/ overheating (like, how much time you've gotten on average when shooting very short - 60 sec or less - clips)?

(ii) Given that it only has HDR PQ and no CLOG at all - how does the HDR PQ matches up with other cams (like the R5C, R5, etc)

I'm aware that some have successfully added thermal pads to reduce overheating but I'm hoping to not have to do all that!

Again, a long shot but any informed opinions are appreciated!

Honestly everytime I go to this R7 group on Facebook there's someone new reporting their shutter has died. I was really hoping to pick up an R7 but it seems like the prudent move is to either pickup an R50 and deal with only being able to get 10 bit in its HDR mode or buy a used R6 MKII at double the price of a uses R7.

Really surprised this R7 shutter issue hasn't gotten more attention tho. 

On 1/8/2025 at 5:56 PM, EduPortas said:

Cost-cutting had to come somewhere with Canon MILCs.

Case and point: https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-to-outsource-low-end-camera-manufacturing/

Something I haven't seen a lot of people discussing about this shift is that the people with the most protection from all of this are the OG cam operators, editors, etc., in unionized spaces (and rightfully so as a lot of them walked so we could fly, etc, etc).  But their protection comes in the form of 30-40 years of unionized seniority AND the reality that their severance packages would be way too expensive for companies to even consider shelling out. So as long as they stay creatively hungry and on top of the tech side, they'll be ok. Again, I bear no ill will to these OGs and salute them. But on the other end of the spectrum, it's heartbreaking to see younger video producers in these unionized spaces grappling with a shift they/we all saw coming... it was more a case of them not knowing HOW it would hit them.

I mean we just got a bunch of Sony PTZs with the whole shebang of rails and monitors (etc) - and that likely means a bunch of video producers will now be doing waaay more switching and tech-related duties/troubleshooting than actually running a cam. And how knows how long that will last.

But yes, it's all pretty sh*tty.

32 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

I wonder does shutter close when shut down contribute to this issue, I know on Sony people have been recommending not to close shutter when shut down to keep their life longer.

I myself mostly use the R7 for video so it's not like I take photos a lot, even if I do take photos it is mostly electronic shutter anyway. 

This feels like a quality or quality control issue, tbh. 

For example, I've had my 5D MKIII for about a decade and my 7D for much longer. I bought both used, still use them, and have never had an issue with the mechanical shutter. Again, they were used when I bought them. So seeing these reports of R7s needing their MS replaced after maaaybe 2.5 years or so tops of use (R7 first dropped June 2022), is just wiiiiild. 

I mean I'm like you and totally ok not using MS, but I'm thinking of all the owners who have no idea this is a potential issue and are using their MS like they would any other cam. 

It would also be impossible for Canon to be unaware of this bcuz every owner bringing it up also took it to Canon to get it fixed. 

An fyi for anyone on here that owns an R7 or is thinking of picking one up as a B/C/D-cam (as I am). 

I joined an R7 group recently and there seems to be an ongoing issue with this model's mechanical shutter. The reports of MS failures in this one group alone is unlike anything I've seen/heard before. Particularly for a cam that's only been around for 2 years. 

This is of course all anecdotal, but as someone who has exclusively bought  used Canon cams for well over a decade (7D/5D MKII/MKIII/1DC/R5/R5C) and who has been a member of various groups/forums for these cams in that time, I have never seen this frequency of owners reporting mechanical shutter failures. And again, the cam isn't even 3 years old.

Hopefully there will be Youtubers that will do a more in-depth look at this - but at the very least, anyone looking to pick up an R7 should: (i) be prepared to not use its mechanical shutter, (ii) be wary of buying an R7 used and/or w/o an extended warranty that specifically covers the MS.

Also, if I was someone who had done a review/deep dive into this cam - I'd be looking into this potential issue further, and seriously considering updating those reviews/deep dives for the sake of my own brand integrity.

An fyi for anyone on here that owns an R7 or is thinking of picking one up as a B/C/D-cam (as I am). 

I joined an R7 group recently and there seems to be an ongoing issue with this model's mechanical shutter. The reports of MS failures in this one group alone is unlike anything I've seen/heard before. Particularly for a cam that's only been around for 2 years. 

This is of course all anecdotal, but as someone who has exclusively bought  used Canon cams for well over a decade (7D/5D MKII/MKIII/1DC/R5/R5C) and who has been a member of various groups/forums for these cams in that time, I have never seen this frequency of owners reporting mechanical shutter failures. And again, the cam isn't even 3 years old.

Hopefully there will be Youtubers that will do a more in-depth look at this - but at the very least, anyone looking to pick up an R7 should: (i) be prepared to not use its mechanical shutter, (ii) be wary of buying an R7 used and/or w/o an extended warranty that specifically covers the MS.

Also, if I was someone who had done a review/deep dive into this cam - I'd be looking into this potential issue further, and seriously considering updating those reviews/deep dives for the sake of my own brand integrity.

I'd agree and even though my main cams are two R5Cs, when it comes to photos, I prefer the look of my OG 5D MKIII. ML RAW was my video workhorse for many years but it can't be completely trusted on mission critical shoots. All that said, I sold my 1DC (which def had that mojo imo) and I've thought about getting a 5D MKIV as a compromise between the MKIII but also getting DPAF, but will prob never sell my 5D MKIII.

5 hours ago, gt3rs said:

This is wired I used exactly the same d-tap adapter for 2 years with my R5c and never had this 90 second issue, is just immediate. I use it with FXLION Nano One batteries.

Never the less Canon should do an official dtap dummy batter that mimics the EP-E6P.

I now moved to two R5II but if I would still be having a R5c I would simply move to EP-E6P and for really long stuff use the USB-C.

PS: it is great that Canon made the R5c work with the new battery it really removes the biggest issue I had with the camera.  

Interesting, I use FX Lion Nanos as well, lol.

Here's the thing tho, I've repeated the quirk I'm describing with two different Kondor Blue D-Tap/Dummy batt cables, on two different Canon R5C units (I own two of them) and two different FX Lion Nano One batts that are two different versions of the Nano One (VI and VII). 

I actually stumbled on the 90 sec thing after days of troubleshooting why the cam kept shutting off immediately after I connected everything and turned it on. So while my conclusion was drawn from all those tests, there might be something else specific to how I have my cams configured that is causing the quirk but for the life of me I can't think what that would be that it would still show up with that level of consistency in tests with that level of diversity in the tests themselves. The only thing I can think is that maybe its an R5C setting that I used in both cams (??).

Either way, thanks to the LP-E6P my D-Tap/V-Mount days are over!

1 hour ago, Django said:

What is this motion vector for DIS? Like gyro info? Official video announcement doesn't even mention this feature lol. 

It's a new feature that I think the C400 and C80s have and if you google it it does come up but I think Canon probably underestimates how underwhelmed people are/were by DIS which might explain why it's been under promoted - but at least they're attempting to address it. How I understand it so far is that when you disable the Motion Vector option the cam no longer uses the moving objects in the frame in its image stab calculus, which overall allows for less jerky looking results. I'm hoping a Youtuber like Josh Sattin will do some tests and explain the whole thing tho!

1 hour ago, Dude_ger said:

Short question -
i am using a d tap to dummy battery, but the cable is too long and big.
Do you know any short cable solutions which are not coiled?
I found the Alvins which is expensive and the one from ZGcine which is too long (60cm)...

I use the Kondor Blue brand which is great but has a 'quirk' in that when you initially connect it, you need to wait 90 secs or more before you actually turn the camera on. It seems like its a safety measure that allows it to acclimate to the R5C's powering needs w/o blowing the circuits (???). But once you've done that you can turn the cam off/on as much as you want - however, if you disconnect the D-tap from the cam for 90 secs or more, you have to repeat the initial process of connecting and waiting 90 secs, again. Aside from that the Kondor Blue brand has been fantastic and I have two of their D-taps now.

All that said, I actually no longer use the D-tap/dummy battery option anymore because Canon's new LP-E6P batteries give you 90 mins on a charge and 3 hours with the OEM grip. So I plan to get 4 or 5 of these new batteries which should be able to last an entire shoot. Particularly if you have a basic remote battery charging strategy (like two portable USB-C chargers connected to a powerbank). The other reason I have moved away from D-tap (and USB-C powering for that matter) is there is still a chance that a faulty cord or something can fry/damage your cam. Using LP-E6P batteries guarantees that will never happen. 

Anyways hope this helps and good luck!

https://kondorblue.com/products/d-tap-to-canon-lpe6-dummy-battery-cable?srsltid=AfmBOor5C5INM2K10rRTMNEXPh0WihRDU0zMYj4UPBkMwHmdOKIm-4Uy

Haven't seen any tests yet nor have I had time to update to this latest FW myself, but early comments from those who have are suggesting that the updates to the R5C's DIS (#7 below) are really good. If true it would be a fantastic addition to an already amazing cam, imo.

"1. Enables functions to be used without limitation in conjunction with the new Battery Pack LP-E6P. This makes it possible to shoot 59.94P with RAW LT.
2. Enables the display of the digital tele-converter icon on [Main Recording Displays] of [DISP Level 2].
3. Adds the ability to apply Full-Screen display to an external display according to OSD Output setting when using [Peripheral Border Display].
4. Adds function [Tracking by Touch priority] for starting tracking by touching the LCD.
5. Enables the AF Frame and Focus Guide to be moved by dragging.
6. Adds [Protect Images] and [Rating] during FTP Transfer. (Photo Mode)
7. Adds the [Motion Vector For Digital IS] menu option. Default [Disable]*
* [Disable]: Prevents a phenomenon that may cause the image to shake along with the subject when recording a subject (such as a person or an animal) with a large amount movement.
8. Changes the menu option name of [PTP Connection/GP-E2] in [USB Mode] in [System Setup] to [Canon App(s)/GP-E2]. For Android devices, please select [Canon App(s)/GP-E2].
9. Adds support for the RF-Mount Cinema Lens: CN7x17 KAS T/R1
- Support for Magnification chromatic aberration correction.
- Support for Peripheral light correction.
- Support for Distortion aberration correction.
- Displaying T number.
- Enables the remote operation from the camera and RC-V100 (Focus/Zoom/Iris).
- Enables the remote operation from Browser Remote (Focus/Zoom/Iris).
- Enables the zoom operation by joystick on camera body.
- Support for Dual Pixel CMOS AF autofocus.
- Support for [Dual Pixel Focus Guide].
- Support for [Push Auto Iris] and [Auto Iris].
10. Fixes minor issues."

https://www.usa.canon.com/support/canon-product-advisories/Firmware-Notice-EOS-R5-C-Firmware-Version-1-0-9-1

Haven't seen any tests yet nor have I had time to update to this latest FW myself, but early comments from those who have are suggesting that the updates to the R5C's DIS (#7 below) are really good. If true it would be a fantastic addition to an already amazing cam, imo.

"1. Enables functions to be used without limitation in conjunction with the new Battery Pack LP-E6P. This makes it possible to shoot 59.94P with RAW LT.
2. Enables the display of the digital tele-converter icon on [Main Recording Displays] of [DISP Level 2].
3. Adds the ability to apply Full-Screen display to an external display according to OSD Output setting when using [Peripheral Border Display].
4. Adds function [Tracking by Touch priority] for starting tracking by touching the LCD.
5. Enables the AF Frame and Focus Guide to be moved by dragging.
6. Adds [Protect Images] and [Rating] during FTP Transfer. (Photo Mode)
7. Adds the [Motion Vector For Digital IS] menu option. Default [Disable]*
* [Disable]: Prevents a phenomenon that may cause the image to shake along with the subject when recording a subject (such as a person or an animal) with a large amount movement.
8. Changes the menu option name of [PTP Connection/GP-E2] in [USB Mode] in [System Setup] to [Canon App(s)/GP-E2]. For Android devices, please select [Canon App(s)/GP-E2].
9. Adds support for the RF-Mount Cinema Lens: CN7x17 KAS T/R1
- Support for Magnification chromatic aberration correction.
- Support for Peripheral light correction.
- Support for Distortion aberration correction.
- Displaying T number.
- Enables the remote operation from the camera and RC-V100 (Focus/Zoom/Iris).
- Enables the remote operation from Browser Remote (Focus/Zoom/Iris).
- Enables the zoom operation by joystick on camera body.
- Support for Dual Pixel CMOS AF autofocus.
- Support for [Dual Pixel Focus Guide].
- Support for [Push Auto Iris] and [Auto Iris].
10. Fixes minor issues."

https://www.usa.canon.com/support/canon-product-advisories/Firmware-Notice-EOS-R5-C-Firmware-Version-1-0-9-1

The S9 was high on my list of cams to get for a passion project that's taking me overseas - but at $2K, and me actually needing a C-cam to complement my R5C's, it just wasn't in the cards - but it def looks like a great option for anyone looking for something compact.

40 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

The battery doesn't last in video mode on the EOS R5 C, ideally needs external power solution and heavier rig

With the LP-E6P batteries you now get 1hr 30 mins with one batt and 3 hours with the grip. Obvi not the best out there, but unless you need more than three hours, you no longer need external power solutions and rigging heavier than adding a grip. That said the R5 continues to be a great option and as someone with two R5Cs, I am seriously considering purchasing the R5 a second time as my C/travel cam, for some of the reasons you pointed out - not to mention that used prices on the R5 are approaching used R6 MKII prices.

3 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

This is a pity. Can you carry over the current exposure settings from one mode to the other?

Apparently in video mode you can shoot only JPEG photos, so again have to switch and switch and switch again.

Then again this is not a GH1.

I suppose you can shoot 8K RAW in video mode and just extract the stills from that, for a hybrid shoot.

Wow the 4K/60p is oversampled from 8k/60?

I bet the battery life takes a bit of a hammering though.

Good, I get along well with H.265 at 50-100Mbit, it has a great image for tiny file size.

That's my main concern as well, does the EIS alone work well with a Leica M lens on the front?

And it doesn't work at all for photos.

And I am wondering how big the crop is without an OIS lens.

2000 euro EOS R5 / 3000 euro EOS R3 / 3000 euro EOS R5 C second hand in Europe.

R3 is tempting at that price as well.

Why are Canon bodies depreciating so much more than they used to?

People switching to Sony maybe?

These are all pretty fair assessments - and of course we all have different pros/cons based on our shooting needs.

As someone who has been using the R5C for several years now, and now has two of them, I can say that the switching from video to pics is not that big of a deal after a FW update that reduced the switch over time to under 5 seconds. So if that practical difference of maaaybe 2 seconds (compared to an R5 or other hybrid cams) is of absolute critical importance - compared to all the things you gain with the R5C's feature set - and if JPEG isn't enough, then yes, it isn't the cam for you. Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can be in 8K RAW video mode AND still shoot RAW pics. You don't have to extract stills from the video.

As far as image stab goes, I initially bought an R5 bcuz I thought I needed IBIS, and honestly, after about 6 months using both cams together, I didn't feel like the gains of the R5's IBIS were enough for me to keep it - so I sold it and got my second R5C. For my use cases the R5C's DIS in tandem with lens IS is perfect for my needs. And again, losing IBIS was offset by all the cot damn features you get with the R5C. 

The only thing I miss with the R5 is the little extra compactness it gives you by not having a fan AND the fact that you cannot adjust the internal mics on the R5C, at all. These factors are why I'm currently considering picking up and R7/5/6 MKII for a passion project I'm shooting overseas next year. Bcuz the R5C's fan + the need to have a small shotgun mic for usable audio, means I'll stick out like a sore thumb way more if I bring it with me, altho that Sennheiser MKE 200 might low pro/compact enough for me to just stick with one of my R5C. 

All that to say, the R5C feels to me like a final destination, future proof cam. And while I still need to decide what my C-Cam will be, I won't be surprised if I just make it another R5C and call it day.

On 12/3/2024 at 9:17 AM, PannySVHS said:

Also the hdmi being mini. Or wasn't it even micro? Coff, coff:)

Totally - which is why I stay away from using the hdmi and even USB-C ports on my two R5Cs. I'm mostly a hobbyist and can't afford to spend 1K USD every time those ports go. 

7 hours ago, Django said:

That is really cool, I saw a recent test I think from Josh Satin where shockingly the battery life of R5C was quite longer than R5ii using the new batteries. That plus 8K60p internal is starting to really make R5C give R5ii a run for its money!

Absolutely! Although I see them as serving two slightly different hybrid users: the cinema/photo shooter and the all round video/photo shooter. On another note, if the R5C ends up being a one-off release, it will be Canon's unicorn cam when it comes to the sheer amount of features packed into its mirrorless styled body. Kind of the way the 1DC was a one-off with an image that made it kind of a unicorn amongst DSLRs.

Wow, so looks like a new FW update in December will allow the R5C to do 8k 60p RAW with no external power and JUST the LP-E6P battery: https://www.canon.co.uk/press-centre/press-releases/2024/11/firmware-updates-add-extensive-new-functionalities-to-canon-professional-video-cameras/

Mmm, maybe the Fujifilm XT-4 or 5 or X100 XI, or the Panasonic S9? 

3 hours ago, j_one said:

Cool. Personally if they end up adding El Zone to this monitor, I will consider picking it up.

El Zone is apparently included as well